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Old 08-23-2006, 06:17 AM
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To be fair, although Dylan's vocals can sometimes almost turn into self-parody these days, overall I think he is one of the greatest singers of all-time. His vocal style is still being emulated. Sure, technically he's not a good singer, but some of my favourite singers can't sing too well: Neil Young, Lou Reed, even Tom Petty. People like Christina Aguilera may be able to hit the right notes and do all those vocal hysterics but Dylan has more heart and soul in that shaky, speak-sing, nasal twang of his that most of those warblers put together. (IMO of course)
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:19 AM
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each one of you will be an old codger someday too.

No. There's a difference to being old and an old codger.

Also, we will never go back to vinyl. However a lot of older artists who dislike CD, like DVD. Neil Young for one.
A lot of people were excited about DVD-A and others were releasing stuff on DVD with 5.1 surround sound, because that format opened new possibilities for them.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:26 AM
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To be fair, although Dylan's vocals can sometimes almost turn into self-parody these days, overall I think he is one of the greatest singers of all-time. His vocal style is still being emulated. Sure, technically he's not a good singer, but some of my favourite singers can't sing too well: Neil Young, Lou Reed, even Tom Petty. People like Christina Aguilera may be able to hit the right notes and do all those vocal hysterics but Dylan has more heart and soul in that shaky, speak-sing, nasal twang of his that most of those warblers put together. (IMO of course)
you have a point. i'm not a huge dylan fan, but i like those other crappy vocalists you listed , so i guess i can't fault dylan for his voice. there are songs of his that i love, like tangled up in blue, hurricane, and everybody must get stoned, but i don't see him as "the man," as other people do.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:27 AM
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No. There's a difference to being old and an old codger.
not sure why you think Im a codger then
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:23 AM
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I didn't directly call you one.
That said you did say "rock music is NOTHING like it used to be," which implied that you agreed with the headline of that article (that modern music is worthless). To me that sounds like a judgement on the quality of the music rather than on the format of the day.
But whatever...
well, I saw that I did miss that crucial bit of info and apologized

I can tell you that IMO, music in general has deteriorated since rap took over...I still find plenty to listen to, just on public radio or alternative music stations. Not mainstream any more like I had been for so many years...
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:34 AM
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"I don't know anybody who's made a record that sounds decent in the past 20 years, really,"

I wonder how Jakob feels about that?
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:52 AM
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Sounds like Bob is talking out of his ass to me...Sounds like a real jerk too.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:56 AM
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I wonder how Jakob feels about that?
He laughs his way to the bank that holds his trust fund and his own millions
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:06 AM
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Well if we're talking about sound quality, then I must also disagree with Bob. My remastered CD's sound WAY clearer than the vinyls.
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I think he's acting like a pompous ass. The White Stripes and Franz Ferdinand are just two examples of current artists that make worthwhile, quality music. Yes, you have to weed through the crap to get to them, but quality artists are out there.

Okay, I now see he was speaking more about the sound of a CD. I have to disagree on that too, it doesn't sound like crap and all jumbled. He probably has had a lot of hearing loss which makes it difficult to make distinctions in sounds.
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I think he's acting like a pompous ass. The White Stripes and Franz Ferdinand are just two examples of current artists that make worthwhile, quality music. Yes, you have to weed through the crap to get to them, but quality artists are out there.
It's not like you didnt have to weed through the crap back then either.

There's just MORE **** now.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:11 AM
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Mwah, Grumpy Old Man

oh but PLEASE don't do that "rap isn't music" ... you don't have to like it, but that simply means it's not your taste.
Rap, hiphop in general, it has changed and contributed a lot to the music of today, there's no getting around that.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:19 AM
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I can tell you that IMO, music in general has deteriorated since rap took over...I still find plenty to listen to, just on public radio or alternative music stations. Not mainstream any more like I had been for so many years...
I haven't listened to "mainstream" radio in probably about 10 years. Only things I listen to are NPR and Air America. It has the effect of me not knowing anything about Top 40 pop/rock, and what passes for R&B and country, but I don't think I'm missing too much.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:32 AM
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I haven't listened to "mainstream" radio in probably about 10 years. Only things I listen to are NPR and Air America. It has the effect of me not knowing anything about Top 40 pop/rock, and what passes for R&B and country, but I don't think I'm missing too much.
me either.

lest anyone think Im a total prude, I know there is a difference between rap and hip hop and I dont mind some hip hop, I even have some rap albums
but as far as rap being "music" I just dont see it really, since a lot of rap is SPOKEN, and much of their music is sampled.....whatever happened to originality?

I particularly hate Gangsta rap which is all about violence and demeaning to women.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:43 AM
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I dislike rap and most hip-hop, and "clubby" dance music. It's very cacophonous, plus I can't stand anything with a pulsating beat...it's like fingernails on a chalk board to me. Put me in a gay club, and I get real irritable, real fast.
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