Some interesting baseball facts

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by ryan8472

I want the sweep, but I dont really care who wins Gm 5. I just want to see the lead increased. Hopefully the Angels can manhandle the Sox too, while the Yankees take care of the Mariners.

It's over. I wave the white flag. GO*&^*&^M F*&^*&^ING YANKEES!

[estranged4life]

is complete:

NY Yanks 2
Boston Red Sox 1

Boston have now lost 9 games in the standings to the Yanks since July 4th when they had a 4.5 lead in AL East

New York record since July 4 25-12
Boston record since July 4 16-22

[ryan8472]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

It's over. I wave the white flag. GO*&^*&^M F*&^*&^ING YANKEES!

It aint over yet, kid! We've got 4 at the Stadium next month.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by ryan8472

It aint over yet, kid! We've got 4 at the Stadium next month.

Yes, but I am most depressed at the latest results..

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Yes, but I am most depressed at the latest results..

I think Elmo in my signature 'was' a Red Sox fan

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

I think Elmo in my signature 'was' a Red Sox fan

That's funny!!!! It just sucks cause we were dominated in every phase of the series by our chief rival, and that's tough to take.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

That's funny!!!! It just sucks cause we were dominated in every phase of the series by our chief rival, and that's tough to take.

dick, but at least it wasnt the Cubs this time

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

dick, but at least it wasnt the Cubs this time

Well, they suck period! I mean, it's time to cut Kerry Wood and Mark Prior and move on.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Well, they suck period! I mean, it's time to cut Kerry Wood and Mark Prior and move on.

Woody cannot stay healthy to be a starting pitcher, and Prior was brought into the starting rotation too soon.

Besides, Carlos Z is the man in the Cubs rotation

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Woody cannot stay healthy to be a starting pitcher, and Prior was brought into the starting rotation too soon.

Besides, Carlos Z is the man in the Cubs rotation

You know what his season is reminding me of? You may or may not remember when Steve Carlton went 27-10 for the Phillies for a team that won only 59 games.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

You know what his season is reminding me of? You may or may not remember when Steve Carlton went 27-10 for the Phillies for a team that won only 59 games.

which will be sad since this season will keep "Z" from winning the Cy Young in the NL.

But I have hope, the Cubs rookie pitchers that have pitched this season have been rather good despite their records-Marmal, Marshall especially.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

which will be sad since this season will keep "Z" from winning the Cy Young in the NL.

But I have hope, the Cubs rookie pitchers that have pitched this season have been rather good despite their records-Marmal, Marshall especially.

Hey, dont give up yet. Andre Dawson won the MVP for the Cubs in '87 for a last place team.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Hey, dont give up yet. Andre Dawson won the MVP for the Cubs in '87 for a last place team.

I remember Hawk winning in '87, but MVP voting is different that Cy Young. Votes in the past for the Cy Young usually go towards a pitcher on a winning team, even if another player on a losing team has had a better season.

Speaking of voting, I saw on EPSN last night that when MLB players were asked on a ballot who is the most over-rated player in all of Baseball, the choice was shocking:

Derrick Jeter

That surprises me, because I consider Pay-Rod, I mean A-Rod, as over-rated...And that is my opinion even though I am a Yanks fan!

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

I remember Hawk winning in '87, but MVP voting is different that Cy Young. Votes in the past for the Cy Young usually go towards a pitcher on a winning team, even if another player on a losing team has had a better season.

Speaking of voting, I saw on EPSN last night that when MLB players were asked on a ballot who is the most over-rated player in all of Baseball, the choice was shocking:

Derrick Jeter

That surprises me, because I consider Pay-Rod, I mean A-Rod, as over-rated...And that is my opinion even though I am a Yanks fan!

I find that hard to believe. I think Derek Jeter is the biggest gamer in baseball today, adn I'm a Red Sox fan. That really surprises me that players would pick him. Another player that never seems to get the press he deserves is Todd Helton for the Rockies. I know it's rarified air there, but the numbers this guy has consistently put up are amazing!

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

I find that hard to believe. I think Derek Jeter is the biggest gamer in baseball today, adn I'm a Red Sox fan. That really surprises me that players would pick him. Another player that never seems to get the press he deserves is Todd Helton for the Rockies. I know it's rarified air there, but the numbers this guy has consistently put up are amazing!

make too much an issue with the 'rarified air' at Coors' Field.

I do agree that Rockies 1B Todd Helton is often overlooked, As is the Rangers SS Michael Young-Put 'em on a large market team and these 2 would be huge stars.

Hell, the Cubs 3B Aramis Ramirez is also overlooked, He has hit more HR's than any other 3B in MLB since 2003-And yes, he has more than "Pay-Rod". Aramis, yesterday hit #30, Which give him his third straight season of 30+ HR's. He is he first consistent 3B for the Cubs since Ron "Should be in the HOF" Santo!