Gypsy guitar solo - Page 2

SpyNote · #16 08-10-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by larg

Also, because the studio version is various riffs all layered over one another, so it would be practically impossible to reproduce it exactly. Plus, why would any guitar player ever want to play the exact same thing on stage as he recorded in the studio? Yaaaaawn! I think Lindsey enjoys reworking his songs a little to get a different live sound, early Gypsy being a good example of this (although, the early live versions were far inferior to the masterful studio track--but now its gotten pretty good live).

Adam

I was thinking the Gypsy solo was hard to reproduce, too. Even when Rick Vito did the solo on the Tango tour, it sounded different from the studio recording, despite trying to stay true to the originals.

David · #17 08-10-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Peestie

Oh, I'm not saying it's some good playing. The rhythms aren't exactly "standard" which is bound to make it tricky enough, but I was just saying it isn't that fast. I don't really want to get into any arguments, so I'll maybe conceed defeat

I don't think it's a question of arguing or of conceding defeat. "Fast" isn't an absolute. It's a relative. I was just playing this solo on the piano last night. To me, it's fast. To you, perhaps not.

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P.S. David, why does no-one on the internet give note durations their proper names? I never see people use "quaver", "minum" etc. It's always 8th notes and 1/2 notes. Why? As a classically trained musician I'd always been taught the proper names and had never heard "8th notes" until I started reading music related things on the 'net. Is it just for brevity, or is there another reason? Just wondering if you can shed some light on this because I've been wondering about it for ages.

According to my Harvard Dictionary of Music, published in 1960, "whole note," "half note," "quarter note," "eighth note," "sixteenth note" & "thirty-second note" are the correct American terms, whereas "semibreve," "minim," "crotchet," "quaver," "semiquaver" & "demisemiquaver" are the correct terms in English-speaking Europe.

My classical training in piano encompassed study with Barbara Edmundson of Juillard, Blanche Nissim (a student of Ralph Berkowitz & Josef Hoffmann) of the Curtis Institute, & Janet Vrudny of the Idyllwild School of Music & the Arts, an afiliate of the University of Southern California School of Music. The American terminology in my training was far more prevalent than the European terminology. I think it would be perfectly legitimate for us here in this country to regard "quarter note," "half note," "eighth note," etc., as the accurate, correct terminology--at least for us. Of course, we haven't switched over to metric yet, either.

Sahara · #18 08-10-2006, 05:08 PM

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Thanks! Don't have time to listen right now but I'm looking forward to it!

That was really nice ... very different from the other versions but it still works so very well.

Thank you!

Peestie · #19 08-10-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David

According to my Harvard Dictionary of Music, published in 1960, "whole note," "half note," "quarter note," "eighth note," "sixteenth note" & "thirty-second note" are the correct American terms, whereas "semibreve," "minim," "crotchet," "quaver," "semiquaver" & "demisemiquaver" are the correct terms in English-speaking Europe.

My classical training in piano encompassed study with Barbara Edmundson of Juillard, Blanche Nissim (a student of Ralph Berkowitz & Josef Hoffmann) of the Curtis Institute, & Janet Vrudny of the Idyllwild School of Music & the Arts, an afiliate of the University of Southern California School of Music. The American terminology in my training was far more prevalent than the European terminology. I think it would be perfectly legitimate for us here in this country to regard "quarter note," "half note," "eighth note," etc., as the accurate, correct terminology--at least for us. Of course, we haven't switched over to metric yet, either.

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I didn't realise that it was just a cultural difference. I'd assumed (wrongly in this case) that they were just simplifications. It was never really made clear to me, and having never encounter the American terms in my studies I didn't even know they existed until I saw them.