Final photo of the late Princess Diana published

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by bretonbanquet

. . . Camilla is Princess of Wales. She has to be because she's married to the Prince of Wales. It was deemed safer to style her Duchess of Cornwall so as not to appear to be replacing Diana. The wife of the Prince of Wales has several titles - Diana was also Duchess of Cornwall.

It should be noted that not one of these suckers is either Welsh or Cornish, which shows what a farce the whole thing really is

AHHHHHHH -- thanks for clearing that up. I wondered if the Princess of Wales title automatically went now that Diana is dead. if she had lived, would the Queen have had to strip her of it? Or could there have been two.

[strandinthewind]

Interestingly, here is a cool article on Morganatic marriage.

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

AHHHHHHH -- thanks for clearing that up. I wondered if the Princess of Wales title automatically went now that Diana is dead. if she had lived, would the Queen have had to strip her of it? Or could there have been two.

That is something I'm sure they're glad they don't have to worry about

Had Diana remarried she would definitely have lost the title of Princess of Wales, and become plain old Mrs Whoever. Had she stayed single and Charles remarried, I really don't know what they would have done. There can't be two, so there'd have been a catfight, I guess

Whilst she was married to Charles, Diana was titled Her Royal Highness The Princess Charles, Princess of Wales, Duchess of Cornwall and Countess of Chester, Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Carrick, Baroness of Renfrew, Lady of the Isles, Princess and Great Stewardess of Scotland. That's what you get for marrying the Queen's eldest son... but when you divorce, you lose the lot. It was extremely unusual for her to keep any titles.

She might have regained a title once William became King, since she would have been the mother of the monarch, and you definitely get titles for that. But it's all by the by now.

[strandinthewind]

Here is a cool article on it.

Diana, Princess of Wales
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Diana, Princess of Wales

Born 1 July 1961
Sandringham, Norfolk, England
Died 31 August 1997
Paris, France
"Diana Spencer" redirects here. For other uses, see Diana Spencer (disambiguation).
The Lady Diana Frances Spencer (Diana Frances Mountbatten-Windsor, née Spencer) (July 1, 1961–August 31, 1997) was the first wife of Charles, Prince of Wales. Her children, Prince William and Prince Harry, are second and third in line to the British throne respectively.

From her marriage in 1981 to her divorce in 1996, she was styled Her Royal Highness The Princess of Wales. After her divorce from the Prince of Wales in 1996, Diana ceased to be The Princess of Wales and lost the resulting Royal Highness style.[1] She received the title normally used by the ex-wives of peers, Diana, Princess of Wales under Letters Patent issued by Queen Elizabeth II at the time of the divorce.

An iconic presence on the world stage, Diana, Princess of Wales was noted for her high-profile charity work. Yet her philanthropic endeavours were overshadowed by her scandal-plagued marriage to Prince Charles. Her bitter claims, via friends and biographers, of adultery, mental cruelty, and emotional distress visited upon her by her husband and the royal family in general, and her own admissions of adultery and numerous love affairs riveted the world for much of the 1990s, spawning books, tabloid newspaper and magazine articles, and television movies.

From the time of her engagement to the Prince of Wales in 1981 until her death in a car accident in 1997, the Princess was arguably the most famous woman in the world, the pre-eminent female celebrity of her generation: a fashion icon, an image of feminine beauty, admired and emulated for her involvement in AIDS issues, and the international campaign against landmines. During her lifetime, she was often described as the most-photographed person in the world. To her admirers, the Princess of Wales was a role model - after her death, there were even calls for her to be nominated for sainthood - while her detractors considered her to have been mentally ill (possibly with Borderline Personality Disorder) long before her marriage and regarded her life as a cautionary tale of how untreated emotional problems and an obsession with publicity can ultimately destroy human beings.

As of 2006, the inquiry into her death by British police continues. A report is expected to be issued in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana%2C_Princess_of_Wales

[strandinthewind]

Also - from the same source:

The style "Princess Diana" was always incorrect, though often used by the public and the media. With rare exceptions, as in the case of Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, only women born to the title (such as Princess Anne) may use it before their given names. After her divorce in 1996, Diana was officially titled "Diana, Princess of Wales", based on a provision in the divorce settlement signed by the Queen, although she could not be called "Her Royal Highness." Even the style "Princess of Wales" would have lapsed had Diana remarried. Had she lived, Diana might have had her royal status restored to her by her son, Prince William, upon his accession to the throne.

During her marriage to Charles, her full title was Her Royal Highness The Princess Charles, Princess of Wales, Duchess of Cornwall and Countess of Chester, Duchess of Rothesay, Countess of Carrick, Baroness of Renfrew, Lady of the Isles, Princess and Great Stewardess of Scotland

[bretonbanquet]

^^^^

Wikipedia is actually a pretty good source on the Royal Family, as far as I can see

[strandinthewind]

I agree - though it can be incorrect on other things.

Interestingly, that the Queen of England let Diana keep the post divorce Princess of Wales title was a grand gesture on her part. Granted, the mother of the furture king(s) of England and their progeny should have a title.

[irishgrl]

All I know is, I miss her and I am sorry she's gone I cant think of anyone whose death affected me so deeply.........not even John Lennon, although he was close...........

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

All I know is, I miss her and I am sorry she's gone I cant think of anyone whose death affected me so deeply.........not even John Lennon, although he was close...........

I miss her too. I thought she did a tremendous amount of good in the world despite how I think she acted in her divorce.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I miss her too. I thought she did a tremendous amount of good in the world despite how I think she acted in her divorce.

Oh Strandmeier, do I hear a song waiting to burst forth????

[gypsysoul]

Two of my friends knew Diana intimately and some other people I know had regular dealings with her.
Most of these people were not fazed by her royal position and so were able to see her for herself.

They say that like most of us, she had her good and bad points. She had an endearing childlike quality about her and yet could also be a right bitch when she wanted to be. Her life was extraordinary and it was inevitable that she became 'street smart' especially when it came to manipulating the media.

I wasn't a particular fan of the public Diana but I have to say the more I heard about the private woman, the more likeable she seemed. She apparently had a good sense of humour, could laugh at herself and genuinely did not differentiate between 'classes' of people.

I was especially touched by the stories I heard of her charity work behind the scenes. Although she did get a lot of publicity for it, apparently she was not someone who only performed for the cameras.

A senior charity worker told me one story of a girl who had such a terrible disease that disfigured her that even doctors found it difficult to deal with her, not least because of the terrible smell that emanated from her.
Diana visited the centre where the girl was and instinctively made a beeline for her. She spent time with the girl and cuddled her in a way noone else had been able to bring themselves to do.

She wasn't the saint some would like to believe she was but nor was she as awful as others make her out to be.

[goldustsongbird]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am such not a huge Diana fan. While I agree that a post mortem photo is tacky, the woman lived her life in the press and willingly used the press to her advantage. So, when you live by the sword . . . .

Mmmhm, I agree.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

All I know is, I miss her and I am sorry she's gone I cant think of anyone whose death affected me so deeply.........not even John Lennon, although he was close...........

just curious what it is that affected you so deeply?

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

just curious what it is that affected you so deeply?

not sure really, I just loved her. Somehow, watching her go from being an ordinary person to a Royal seemed like a real life fairy tale...

I watched her as she acquired grace and discovered her affinity for public service. I appreciated the fact that she was unafraid of risks (holding an AIDS patient's hand, hugging that gruesome girl in the story above) and took a stand on things she felt strongly about (eradication of mines, the foul stink of the paparazzi (sp?) ) And, I sympathized with her as her marriage disintegrated.

I grew to love the person she became, not just the fairy tale princess, and when she died, I truly felt the world had lost someone very special.

[David]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

not sure really, I just loved her. Somehow, watching her go from being an ordinary person to a Royal seemed like a real life fairy tale...

I watched her as she acquired grace and discovered her affinity for public service. I appreciated the fact that she was unafraid of risks (holding an AIDS patient's hand, hugging that gruesome girl in the story above) and took a stand on things she felt strongly about (eradication of mines, the foul stink of the paparazzi (sp?) ) And, I sympathized with her as her marriage disintegrated.

I grew to love the person she became, not just the fairy tale princess, and when she died, I truly felt the world had lost someone very special.

In other words, what you felt (or still feel) about Diana is exactly what thousands of people feel about Stevie Nicks.

It's kind of odd to hear some rabid Stevie fans express surprise or even disbelief that one could love Diana.