Iran warns Israel not to attack Syria

[gldstwmn]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13460060.htm

TEHRAN, July 13 (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday an Israeli strike on Syria would be considered an attack on the whole Islamic world that would bring a "fierce response", state television reported.

"If the Zionist regime commits another stupid move and attacks Syria, this will be considered like attacking the whole Islamic world and this regime will receive a very fierce response," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying in a telephone conversation with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

The president made the comments after Israel struck Beirut airport and military airbases and blockaded Lebanese ports in reprisals that have killed 55 civilians in Lebanon since Hizbollah guerrillas captured two Israeli soldiers a day earlier.

"He (Ahmadinejad) also said it was a must for the Organisation of the Islamic Conference to become more active regarding the new crisis created by the Zionist regime," state television reported.

Iran's Islamic government has never recognised Israel and routinely refers to the Jewish state as the "Zionist regime".

Iran has close ties with Syria, and with Hizbollah.

[MacMan]

This is getting so ugly... I don't even want to think about it!

[BombaySapphire3]

This area of the world is always Armagadeon waiting to happen....I certainly hope it deesculates

[gldstwmn]

Everything seems to have gone to hell rather quickly. This is not good news.

[tommer]

chill.
hopefully it'll all end by tuesday.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by tommer

chill.
hopefully it'll all end by tuesday.

what happens tuesday?

[gldstwmn]

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?...D8IRVGT8I.html

Bush Rejects Lebanon's Call for Cease-Fire


ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) - President Bush rejected Lebanon's calls for a cease-fire in escalating Mideast violence on Friday, saying only that Israel should try to limit civilian casualties as it steps up attacks on its neighbor.

"The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Lebanon's prime minister asked Bush, during a phone call Friday, to pressure Israel for a cease-fire. But Bush told Prime Minister Fuad Saniora that Israelis have a right to protect themselves.

"We think it's important that, in doing that, they try to limit as much as possible the so-called collateral damage, not only on civilians but also on human lives," Snow said.

Israeli war planes have been bombing sites around Lebanon, including the main airport, bridges and power stations, to punish Hezbollah for the capture of two Israeli soldiers. At least 61 people in Lebanon have been killed.

On the other side, Hezbollah militants have fired hundreds of rockets at northern Israel. At least 10 Israelis have been killed.

Saniora's office issued a statement saying Bush "affirmed his readiness to put pressure on Israel to limit the damage to Lebanon as a result of the current military action, and to spare civilians and innocent people from harm."

Snow said that wasn't so. Bush merely "reiterated his position" that Israel should limit the impact on civilians, he said.

"It is unlikely that either or both parties are going to agree to" a cease-fire at this point, Snow said.

Bush's conversation with Saniora as he flew from Germany to Russia was part of a round of telephone diplomacy aimed at quelling the flare-up in violence. The president also spoke with a pair of allies, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordan's King Abdullah II, and thanked them for trying to help ease the violence in their neighborhood, Snow said.

Bush was pleased that a number of major Muslim nations such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia "do not look on Hezbollah as being a legitimate government entity," Snow said.

Hezbollah is an Iranian-backed militant Shiite faction which has a free hand in southern Lebanon and holds seats in parliament. The Lebanese government has no control over Hezbollah but has long resisted international pressure to forcibly disarm the group for fears of igniting sectarian conflict.

Bush has not spoken with Israeli leaders, but Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Snow said. Snow did not provide details of the conversation.

The president flew to Russia for discussions with President Vladimir Putin and a weekend summit of industrial powers being held here. Israel's attacks on Lebanon and the counterattacks on Israel were sure to be heavy discussion topics - on an issue where Bush is at odds with some of his allies.

Russia, the host of the Group of Eight summit, and France, another summit nation, have criticized the Israeli attacks. But Bush's strong defense for Israel's right to defend itself has been tempered only by concern that the offensive could weaken or topple the fragile democratic government in Beirut.

The crisis threatened to dash Bush's hopes to see the G-8 summit produce a united stand against Iran's nuclear ambitions and North Korea's long-range missile test.

Snow said it seemed inevitable that the G-8 members would issue some kind of a statement on the Mideast situation, but it was unclear what it would say. Rice said a three-person team sent by the United Nations to the region should get a chance to try to defuse the crisis.

Several drafts concerning violence in the Middle East were already on the table. "With the pace of events, they're going to have to redraft them," Snow said.

"It is important that everybody talk with one voice," Snow said.

In St. Petersburg, Bush's first stop was a monument honoring those who defended Leningrad - the Soviet name for the city - during the 900-day World War II siege. More than half a million people died, most of hunger. Bush and his wife paused there for a long moment of silence.

In what amounted to a gentle statement about democratic backsliding under Putin's leadership, Bush went from there to sit down with 17 representatives from civil society groups whom he called "young, vibrant Russian activists who loved their country" but who also are concerned about human conditions there. The president said he planned to convey some of their worries directly to Putin.

"I assured them the United States of America cares about the form of government in Russia," Bush told reporters afterward. "I hope I was encouraging for them. It was instructive to me."

The highlight of Bush's first day here was a social dinner with Putin at a villa on the grounds of the opulent 18th century Konstantin Palace, the luxurious venue Putin chose for the Group of Eight meetings.

Beforehand, the president spent part of the afternoon on a bike ride in a wooded area near the site of the summit.

Bush and Putin meet as U.S. and Russian negotiators try to conclude a deal to let Russia join the World Trade Organization. Russia hoped to have the presidents announce it as early as Saturday.

But while officials reached a breakthrough in banking, officials said U.S. Trade Representative Susan Schwab and Russian Economics Minister German Gref continued working Friday on a number of other sticking points.

"There is no resolution at this point," said Sean Spicer, Schwab's spokesman.

[David]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

http://rawstory.com/showarticle.php?...D8IRVGT8I.html

Bush Rejects Lebanon's Call for Cease-Fire


ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (AP) - President Bush rejected Lebanon's calls for a cease-fire in escalating Mideast violence on Friday, saying only that Israel should try to limit civilian casualties as it steps up attacks on its neighbor.

HAHAHA!!! Cowboy's really in a position to lecture others!! HAHAAA!!!

"The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

HAAHAA!!! You got that right, Mr. President!! HAHAHAAAHAAA!!!!

What a jackass.

[DavidMn]

I certainly hope everything work+s out.

[irishgrl]

Bush was pleased that a number of major Muslim nations such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia "do not look on Hezbollah as being a legitimate government entity," Snow said.

Hezbollah is an Iranian-backed militant Shiite faction which has a free hand in southern Lebanon and holds seats in parliament. The Lebanese government has no control over Hezbollah but has long resisted international pressure to forcibly disarm the group for fears of igniting sectarian conflict.

I find this significant. Aside from the obvious hypocrisy of the Bush Administration re: the Middle East, I happen to find it encouraging that Hezbollah is not considered "legit" by its fellow Muslim nations. This also points out Iran's bias, which right now is important considering their nuclear aspirations........

[tommer]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

what happens tuesday?

what i meant by "tuesday" was that it's going to end really soon. that's because the only beneficiaries at the moment are iran and syria, israeli society can't handle this state of war for long, lebanon is a tiny country and all bombed out by now, and even bush will start losing sleep once the price of oil's gonna pass the 80$ per barrel stage.

but again, this could all be just wishful thinking, coz if this crap won't be solved in a matter of days, my entire summer's gonna get all screwed up.

[hmcannally]

I believe this whole thing with the middle east will someday but not any day soon lead up to a religious happening that most people do not understand. The Rapture of the Church and the Rise of the Anit=Christ to lead the European Union and set up the UPCOMING Armeggedon. Like I said this is my belief. I also believe that there will be wars and runours of wars in the end times. I have heard that so many times until I got sick of it but now realize there is truth to that. I did not mean to open up a can or worms or anything or say anything considered preaching or forcing religion on anyone. But some one in Europe please tell me that that there are or AREN'T 13 members of the EU? And if what the Bible Believers say is true then 3 members will be kicked out of the EU prior to the rise of the Anti-Christ and the Rapture brining ing the member ship to 10.
Most "end times scenario" christians I know considered the EU to be the revived Roman Empire. We all have time left but no one knows how much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[tommer]

Originally Posted by hmcannally

I believe this whole thing with the middle east will someday but not any day soon lead up to a religious happening that most people do not understand. The Rapture of the Church and the Rise of the Anit=Christ to lead the European Union and set up the UPCOMING Armeggedon. Like I said this is my belief. I also believe that there will be wars and runours of wars in the end times. I have heard that so many times until I got sick of it but now realize there is truth to that. I did not mean to open up a can or worms or anything or say anything considered preaching or forcing religion on anyone. But some one in Europe please tell me that that there are or AREN'T 13 members of the EU? And if what the Bible Believers say is true then 3 members will be kicked out of the EU prior to the rise of the Anti-Christ and the Rapture brining ing the member ship to 10.
Most "end times scenario" christians I know considered the EU to be the revived Roman Empire. We all have time left but no one knows how much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

what are you on?

[bretonbanquet]

Originally Posted by tommer

what are you on?

On the wrong forum...?

By the way, there are 25 member states of the EU, so someone's got a hell of a lot of catching up to do

[hmcannally]

I said that this is what I believe in the thread. And You asking me what I am on shows me you have no clue as to what is really going on in with the 'end times scenario" and the muddle east or the EU. Read some of the "end times scenario" authors like Tim Lahaye and then ask me what I am on. And furthermore what I had to say was relevant to the thread. What is going on with the conflict over there will not innediately lead up to Armaggeddom soon as I believe, and to quote macman ; 'This is getting so ugly... I don't even want to think about it!' Israel is God's CHOSEN people and what happens to them eventually happens elsewhere maybe not in the same detail but basically the USA backs Israel and since we support Israel that explains why the Islamics hates the USA< Thanks for the update on the EU membership but in time in the future the EU will reduce to 13
abd then to 10 and THEN watch what happens.