Cryptic Stevie Lyrics... - Page 4

BlackWidow · #46 07-12-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jannieC

I've always felt that Stevie's relationship with Mick was much more than a "fling". I remember her distinctly saying that Storms was all about Mick. I do think Mick was a true love for Stevie, as distasteful as that may be for some.

I agree..She loved him!!!

BlackWidow · #47 07-12-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

If you asked Stevie what that crappy song is about through the Nicks Fix Q & A thingy, this would be her response:

"It's about a nightmare."

*** Oy! ***

Stevie herself said she had no idea what the song was about in The Wild Heart press kit- so, if she doesn't know, then no one does....

Stevie's tendancy to just slop words and phrases together in an attempt to force imagery can be wearing at times- "Mirror, Mirror" and "The Nighmare" being the most notable examples.

You got some points there...

BlackWidow · #48 07-12-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

So? Stand Back is about a welfare line...apparantly. I don't think there are many people around that believe that story either.

I think Stand Back is about her marriage to Kim Anderson...

BlackWidow · #49 07-12-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

Yes. Coincidentally, that's what I believe also. For crying out loud, the woman wrote it on her wedding night...she was waiting for someone to rescue her, be that Lindsey or whoever. By her own words, it's an angry song...you are not supposed to be angry on your wedding night, so that says enough about the circumstances surrounding that god awful decision. 'in the middle of my room, I did not hear from you'. In my opinion, she needed to be saved, she knew it was a recipe for disaster.

Yep..It is a cry for help!!!!

strandinthewind · #50 07-12-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Yes, I love that. That was from the 1979 Innerview at her Vilma Banky mansion after the band played L.A. But I'd like to ask Stevie whether she read the title of the Inge play & swiped it for her song (because it is certainly a cool image & well worth swiping).

That was a fascinating way Stevie had of coping with physical illness, exhaustion & mental distress: create a double, who can admonish you, steer you back on track, deal with your disappointed parents, & even get sick in your stead. It reminds me of "The Sandman" of E.T.A. Hoffmann, which I doubt Stevie has read, but I like thinking about the parallels.

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Ha! Lovely Eyes! Lovely Eyes!

The Sandman is IMO way darker than the image La Nicks cast of her alter self. But, I think the similarities are there and I would not be surprised if she had read it.

Did you know that Freud took the eyes stealing to mean castration - leave it to ole Sigmund

I also think The Portrait of Dorian Grey is in those songs as well - even if slight.

amber · #51 07-12-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did you know that Freud took the eyes stealing to mean castration - leave it to ole Sigmund

Oh, that coked up, well respected asshole....

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I also think The Portrait of Dorian Grey is in those songs as well - even if slight.

Nice, very nice. I had included that in my interpretations as well. Specious, maybe, but it can be fun to give Stevie depth she *perhaps* didn't realize she had. And I think the Portrait of Dorian Gray interp is very apt. And it seems like the reference is one Stevie may have been thinking about. JMO, of course.

strandinthewind · #52 07-12-2006, 09:21 PM

^^^^

Freud was a prick - no pun intended

As for La Nicks - I think her interviews suggest she is fairly well read and she certainly incorporates lots of classical literature in her songs. So, I would not be surprised if she had that depth already.

UndoingTheLaces · #53 07-13-2006, 02:20 AM

I believe Mick talked about Beautiful Child in his book. He was the person she's singing about. He is older than her and was with his first wife around the time that Stevie was ten years old. When she says "you fell in love when I was only ten" she does not mean he fell in love with her. He had his first love with another woman at that time period. And "you say it will be harder in the morning, I wait for you to say 'just go'" refers to their eventual breakup.

One thing I've always wondered about. Is Imperial Hotel a real place? Is the song about her and did she really run away to a hotel to get away from a bad relationship. I do love how the ending is almost a callback to Storms "...and not all the prayers in the world could save us" and "Don't cry baby, I can save you".

I wrote a song once called "Blue Calm" about losing a friend to AIDS and my favorite line was inspired by that line in Storms. It went:

Save him...
I cried, "save him"
but not all the ribbons and words in the world
could save him

It has a very different meaning than what Stevie is talking about in Storms, the "saving" is more literal here. But I was very fond of that song. I need to make a good recording of it.

melaboo · #54 07-13-2006, 06:27 AM

stevies a high prestess, shes lived many lives and her lyrics could relate to anything!!!
shes intelligent and most of her songs go way above all of us...theyre personal, powerful lyrics....well, thats what i think

Kelly · #55 07-13-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SapphireSister

I'm not sure if you heard the radio interview she did last year but she specifically addressed Storms and confirmed it was about her relationship with Mick. I have it on a CD somewhere so I can try to upload it later.

I agree with Gypsysoul...Stevie saying one thing in an interview doesnt really confirm anything for me. Even if she says its about Lindsey.

She changes her tune so much on what songs are about.....

Kelly · #56 07-13-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

I believe Mick talked about Beautiful Child in his book. He was the person she's singing about. He is older than her and was with his first wife around the time that Stevie was ten years old. When she says "you fell in love when I was only ten" she does not mean he fell in love with her. He had his first love with another woman at that time period. And "you say it will be harder in the morning, I wait for you to say 'just go'" refers to their eventual breakup.

One thing I've always wondered about. Is Imperial Hotel a real place? Is the song about her and did she really run away to a hotel to get away from a bad relationship. I do love how the ending is almost a callback to Storms "...and not all the prayers in the world could save us" and "Don't cry baby, I can save you".

I wrote a song once called "Blue Calm" about losing a friend to AIDS and my favorite line was inspired by that line in Storms. It went:

Save him...
I cried, "save him"
but not all the ribbons and words in the world
could save him

It has a very different meaning than what Stevie is talking about in Storms, the "saving" is more literal here. But I was very fond of that song. I need to make a good recording of it.

In the book I have Mick did not say he was the "Beautiful Child".

There are only a few quotes about this song from Stevie. "it was about a relationship that could never be"..from the Atlanta radio interview from SYW. She said it was "one of the the most difficult songs to sing every night" over on the Nicksfix.
This song seems like it could have been written even before her relationship with Mick if you read some of her other quotes about it, which I do not have here to post. In one she says she wrote it "three years ago", dating it to possibly even 1976.

DeeGeMe · #57 07-13-2006, 08:44 AM

Now y'all know I"m a chiffon head from way back and I love Stevie endlessly but when I read the title of this thread I thought we'd be discussing the few lines in Stevie songs that aren't cryptic--it would be a much shorter discussion because frankly, I think about 90% of what she writes is incredibly cryptic. And that would be what I love about her the most--I can make her songs mean anything to me that I want to because there are so many possible interpretations.

Having said that, the BC discussion/theory makes total sense!

skcin · #58 07-13-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

I believe Mick talked about Beautiful Child in his book. He was the person she's singing about. He is older than her and was with his first wife around the time that Stevie was ten years old. When she says "you fell in love when I was only ten" she does not mean he fell in love with her. He had his first love with another woman at that time period.

Are you talking about Mick's "My 25 Years in FM?" I don't remember that being in there. Plus, Mick's only a year or two older than Stevie (if I recall correctly) and I don't think he'd been dating Jenny since he was 12 or 13. Someone correct me, I may be wrong. But this doesn't make any sense to me.

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Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

when I read the title of this thread I thought we'd be discussing the few lines in Stevie songs that aren't cryptic--it would be a much shorter discussion because frankly, I think about 90% of what she writes is incredibly cryptic.

You know what's funny - I swear I was going to post the exact same thing.

cliffdweller · #59 07-13-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by amber

What else would a Gemini do? There is another person in there! Might as well make it useful. It's that other person and need for variety that made her think she could do so many things at once in the first place. It would usually take two people to accomplish what she did.

But there is actually only one physical person - thus the mental distress and physical exhaustion. It's hard to be one and work for two.

I dunno, it makes sense to me.

This made me also think of her solo career while being in Fleetwood Mac...you know, having to be two people all the time. It just plays into the Gemini thing even more. Stevie could never have been in just one band. She's a Gemini dammit, she'd get waaaay too bored. Trust me I know, my hubby's a Gemini and he usually has to be in at least 3 bands at at all times

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BlackWidow · #60 07-13-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skcin

Are you talking about Mick's "My 25 Years in FM?" I don't remember that being in there. Plus, Mick's only a year or two older than Stevie (if I recall correctly) and I don't think he'd been dating Jenny since he was 12 or 13. Someone correct me, I may be wrong. But this doesn't make any sense to me.

You know what's funny - I swear I was going to post the exact same thing.

You are correct regarding the TIME FRAME!!!