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Old 07-06-2006, 09:07 PM
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I don't know that she necessarily "changed her tune." I think that once she was in a better place both mentally and emotionally, she re-evaluated her life and priorities and realized that, as much as she would have loved to have had a child, she was just not willing to give up her career.
That is what I meant....
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:12 PM
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Really? That's my first time hearing of this. I always thought Stevie went to Betty Ford once and only once and on her own recognizance. My perception from what she's said in interviews is that she checked herself in and just knew when enough was enough. Then again I've learned that you can't always take Stevie's word as law. I never thought though there was any kind of formal intervention, she sure hasn't said anything about it to my knowledge.
Yea..I read it in the L.A. Times!
She fired Frontline Management the day she got out.
She was asked what she got out of her stay..(she left early the first time)
Her reply was "It was a worthless thing, really"
In Welcome to the room she sings:
"Well its a worthless thing so take it all the way back home..take it home"
Her Intervention was organized by her managers at Frontline Mgt.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:26 PM
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Really? That's my first time hearing of this. I always thought Stevie went to Betty Ford once and only once and on her own recognizance. My perception from what she's said in interviews is that she checked herself in and just knew when enough was enough. Then again I've learned that you can't always take Stevie's word as law. I never thought though there was any kind of formal intervention, she sure hasn't said anything about it to my knowledge.
She does tend to rewrite her own past....
She did of course ultimately take responsibility for her own health..I think that is what she means.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:38 PM
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I never heard the two rehabs story. How did I never know this ?
Learn something every day. So, the first one was before the RAL tour ? Then she realized they were right and did it on her own ? What is the timeline? Fascinating.
Every time someone digs up this sorry assed article, there is a ****strom and I find out something new. Awesome.
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:36 AM
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I love this **** too!!!! I never new about the 2 rehabs stays in 86. I thought she went to Betty Ford in early 87????? She was in there with Tammy Wynette, that would be another way to research when they were there.

If Frontline REALLY wanted to make some cash they should of filmed the Intervetion with Stevie and put it on tv and released it on home video !

I would have LOVED to of been there for that! Imagine Stevie in rehab, wouldnt that be a great reality show! I can see Tammy singing instead of D I V O R C E,
"C O C A I N E Stevie is breaking up your nose pretty baddly"!



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Old 07-07-2006, 05:37 AM
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I am thinking the writer is being disingenuous here because it doesn't sound to me like she is talking about her abortions.
Thank you, I agree. It sounds to me like she was talking about something else, relationships most likely and somehow the writer wanted it to make it all more dramatic and heard an abortion bell ring somewhere and included it, especially since Stevie brought up the subject of maybe having a child, or adopting one, for the gazillionth time. I think our first clue that this article is at least somewhat fictional is the fact that the writer brings up her 'former lover Tom Petty' who I seriously doubt she ever had a relationship with, and if so, she would not admit that while Tom Petty was still married. Don't forget the crumbling of the empires.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:39 AM
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I love this **** too!!!! I never new about the 2 rehabs stays in 86. I thought she went to Betty Ford in early 87?????
According to Mick's book it was Spring of 1987, according to Stevie it was after the RAL tour in 1986. It's up to you who you think is the most credible source.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:23 AM
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According to Mick's book it was Spring of 1987, according to Stevie it was after the RAL tour in 1986. It's up to you who you think is the most credible source.
I really doubt that she was in rehab in early 1987 since "Tango in the Night" was released in the early spring of 1987. And my understanding is that she was pretty much off cocaine when she recorded "Tango." But then I could be wrong...

What I have always found perplexing is that she released a very anti-cocaine song in the spring/summer of 1986, "Battle of the Dragon," which came out right before the notoriously drug-fueled RAL tour. The Dragon is cocaine. In that song she sounds as if she conquered her addiction alone ("...when your friends start asking you why, you just say nothing") and moved on. She reflects on the other rock stars who have succumbed to drugs ("We are adapting to your silence, I can live here without you, but at least I'm learning to live without your songs") and seems almost defiantly triumphant in lines like "I see myself remaining when all of you are gone" and "I can and I will go on." Perhaps this song was written and recorded after the first unsuccessful detox in early 1986 when, full of hubris, she determined that she could conquer the Dragon on her own whenever she felt like it. "Battle of the Dragon" was recorded and released. Then after falling off the wagon big time during the RAL tour, when she realized she could not do this alone, the second stint at rehab occurred in the late summer/early fall of 1986 before entering the "Tango" recording sessions at the last minute. This also helps to explain why Stevie's vocals are pretty much absent on over half of the album.
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:01 AM
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I've read this article before in the context of it having lots of controversy around it and even a certain level of taboo, which I accepted, but which I'm sort of glad isn't quite as evident as I thought it would be.

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We do know, however, that she had an abortion for Don Henley's child in the 70's as they have both admitted that.
I didn't know that. When was that said?

And did Stevie or her management ever have anything to say about this article?
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:06 AM
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I didn't know that. When was that said?

And did Stevie or her management ever have anything to say about this article?
Off the Record with Mary Turner - December, 1994

“Don Henley blew it on the fact that I had an abortion. He told a big magazine [Vanity Fair] that. I guess I could tell my story about me and Don cause Don accidentally let the cat out of the bag about that so there are things that I could write about but a lot of things that I couldn’t. See I would have never told that, I would have never told the world that. Ninety-two phone calls from Don and eight hundred apologies later but the fact is that that story it out now but the story behind it isn’t out, what really happened isn’t out, so that’s what everyone has to wait for.”
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:11 AM
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Off the Record with Mary Turner - December, 1994

“Don Henley blew it on the fact that I had an abortion. He told a big magazine [Vanity Fair] that. I guess I could tell my story about me and Don cause Don accidentally let the cat out of the bag about that so there are things that I could write about but a lot of things that I couldn’t. See I would have never told that, I would have never told the world that. Ninety-two phone calls from Don and eight hundred apologies later but the fact is that that story it out now but the story behind it isn’t out, what really happened isn’t out, so that’s what everyone has to wait for.”
Yikes.
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:37 AM
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What I have always found perplexing is that she released a very anti-cocaine song in the spring/summer of 1986, "Battle of the Dragon," which came out right before the notoriously drug-fueled RAL tour. The Dragon is cocaine. In that song she sounds as if she conquered her addiction alone ("...when your friends start asking you why, you just say nothing") and moved on. She reflects on the other rock stars who have succumbed to drugs ("We are adapting to your silence, I can live here without you, but at least I'm learning to live without your songs") and seems almost defiantly triumphant in lines like "I see myself remaining when all of you are gone" and "I can and I will go on." Perhaps this song was written and recorded after the first unsuccessful detox in early 1986 when, full of hubris, she determined that she could conquer the Dragon on her own whenever she felt like it.
An interesting idea, but I heard the song with Tom Petty & Stevie way back in '85.
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:57 AM
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An interesting idea, but I heard the song with Tom Petty & Stevie way back in '85.
and there was an interview (live) posted awhile back where she says BOTD is about strong willed people in relationships or something like that - then she sings a little of it.

But, that could be a small part of it as her songs tend to have many topics.
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Story behind her abortion? She makes it sound like she had a good reason for this. Stevie please its very basic, you had an abortion bc you were a drug addicted rockstar, and didnt want to give that up for a child.
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