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Old 06-16-2006, 02:24 PM
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OMG..I was actually curious about that - the dark side of me I guess - but I never watched it...and I'm so glad I never did - it would have probably haunted me.
I'm still sorry that I watched it. It was terrible. I was sick at my stomach the rest of that day. Unfortunately, I can still see that video, plain as day.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:29 PM
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Hey David, why'd you post this? I won't be watching it.
I was watching all the Ann Coulter videos on youtube--the pros & the cons & all the yapping back & forth, & then it led to this video, which I had never seen before, & I watched it & went Oh my God. It brought that day back in obviously a very immediate, very real way that made all the nattering nabobs & their arguments about politics on all the silly talk shows seem like white noize.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:32 PM
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Remember when hostage Nick Berg(wasn't that his name?) was decapitated? I watched it (like an idiot) on the internet. I was literally ILL the rest of the day.
That video was awful- edited, but awful just the same.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:41 PM
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stuff like that is out there for someone--who enjoys this stuff???
Have you guys seen this magazine yet? I work part-time at a Borders and was horrified to find it sitting right next to People mag. It's filled with disgusting pictures and articles about stuff like the war... there's an article on the victims of Chernobyl with circus-y sideshow pictures of deformities, there's was a pictorial of a dead body showing the decomposition in a slide show over a period of weeks. It was appalling.

I don't understand how anyone would ever want to look at that stuff.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:55 PM
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Have you guys seen this magazine yet? I work part-time at a Borders and was horrified to find it sitting right next to People mag. It's filled with disgusting pictures and articles about stuff like the war... there's an article on the victims of Chernobyl with circus-y sideshow pictures of deformities, there's was a pictorial of a dead body showing the decomposition in a slide show over a period of weeks. It was appalling.

I don't understand how anyone would ever want to look at that stuff.
OMG...that's the type of thing that website I went to had!!! It was AWFUL - the worst part is the way they made light of everything..."Don't lose your head now" under decapitations and whatnot *shudder* I really never need to see any of that kind of stuff.

Now - this video that David posted isn't in the same realm IMO - but it's sad and disturbing all the same.
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:07 PM
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Well, I just watched it. I agree, it's not to be amused all. Actually I KNOW what it felt. Terrorism is not new for me. My place was punished by terror 15 years ago. 1992 was the worst year, and that's when the leader of Shining Path was captured, and then everything starting to get better.

But before that, it was a nightmare. Blackouts anytime, car bombs in shopping centers, attacks in the road, specially in the mountains. Terrorist made a deal with narcotraficants.. everything was a mess. Some regiosn in the country was practically forbidden for tourists and travellers.

The worst incident was when they put a car bomb in front of a bank, here in Lima, and in my neighborhood, Miraflores, but they couldn't park in the exact door so they parked in the street near the building, a narrow street so when it exploded the energy concentrated over the buildings and houses in that street.

It was tragical.

2 buildings were the most affected, and they were not only offices. People lived there (9pm!)

This video makes me recall the scene of a desperate father arriving at the place, screaming for his son, trying to find him. The building was half destroyed (imagine Oklahoma bld.) and the other half in fire. Fortunately he found his son save.

My gym teacher wasn't that luck. He appeared on 6th floor shouting for help since his brother was dying... he didn't make it.

Ok, I stop here. Just to tell you fellows.. 9/11 was the biggest terrorist attack, but you just had few. After more than 10 years of terrorism in Peru, my generation became.. I don't know what to say. Not prepared nor used to it, because you never are.. but it made us hard, stronger.. I don't know. I really really not wish this to anyone, to any country. Will peace reign some day in the whole planet?
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Old 06-16-2006, 03:26 PM
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I often think of the ordinary people just wanting to live their lives but finding themselves in places getting bombed, whether that's London in 1940, Dresden in 1945, New York City in 2001, or Baghdad in 2003. I think like Londoners we need not to dwell publicly so much on the horror and the terrible moments of the past though, because that gives the terrorist what they most want. Somehow you have to keep going on despite violence and not be driven into panic or over reaction. They change you they win. Attacking all Arabs/Persians or Muslims and they win again. Or all Germans or all any group.
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Old 06-16-2006, 04:04 PM
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I was watching all the Ann Coulter videos on youtube--the pros & the cons & all the yapping back & forth, & then it led to this video, which I had never seen before, & I watched it & went Oh my God. It brought that day back in obviously a very immediate, very real way that made all the nattering nabobs & their arguments about politics on all the silly talk shows seem like white noize.

I know that it is important never to forget this tragedy and how Bush basically turned a blind eye to it (hello Iraq!) but yet I can't help but feel footage like this is out there for mainly sensationalist reasons and shouldn't be viewed. But like I said, 9/11 should never be forgotten and those who died should be memorialized. I dunno, there's gotta be a better way.
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I cant even imagine what he was thinking.
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Old 06-16-2006, 04:12 PM
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I know that it is important never to forget this tragedy and how Bush basically turned a blind eye to it (hello Iraq!) but yet I can't help but feel footage like this is out there for mainly sensationalist reasons and shouldn't be viewed. But like I said, 9/11 should never be forgotten and those who died should be memorialized. I dunno, there's gotta be a better way.
I think the most importatant thing is to separate the horror from the realities of what happened. The world didn't change on that day. There were horrible terrorist attacks and acts of despicable evil before 09/11, as well as after.

Whoever is/was behind the WTC mess wants people to react based on the horror.

Personally, I think WTC was designed by the neo-cons to enable them to invade Iraq and get away with all the **** they've pulled in the last five years.
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Old 06-16-2006, 04:31 PM
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I think the most importatant thing is to separate the horror from the realities of what happened. The world didn't change on that day. There were horrible terrorist attacks and acts of despicable evil before 09/11, as well as after.
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I can't believe it's been five years...
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I was watching all the Ann Coulter videos on youtube--the pros & the cons & all the yapping back & forth, & then it led to this video, which I had never seen before, & I watched it & went Oh my God. It brought that day back in obviously a very immediate, very real way that made all the nattering nabobs & their arguments about politics on all the silly talk shows seem like white noize.
I understand it but when possible death should still be surrounded by silence. The person who created the video made of it a number in a circus.

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Old 06-16-2006, 09:19 PM
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I remember how offended I was stumbling onto still photos of the people who had jumped on Yahoo news. I never went back there either. It is an invasion of privacy in sone way, and yet for those who feel a need to know it should be available even if it means some sick and moronic people might also get some insane enjoyment from such things.

I have enough of an imagination I know I don't need to hear tapes or see film past what I saw the day it happened. It probably sounds shallow, but darn it, I wanted to see those buildings in person someday! They were great buildings regardless of their business purpose. What a society and what a city that could build those. If the Space Needle or CN tower fell over I would miss them too, but at least I got to see those in person. The twin towers stood for so lon g after what happened to them, they even fell in a way that would cause the least harm, because imagine if they had toppled sideways, it would have been thirty or forty blocks of carnage and fires. It could have been so much worse. If only there were parachutes or hang gliders on every floor, etc. etc., but it could have been ten times worse.
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Old 06-16-2006, 10:13 PM
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That video was awful- edited, but awful just the same.
Tower, what I saw wasn't edited. I searched for it on Kazaa, and, UNFORTUNATELY, found it. It showed the whole thing.



Let's quit talking about it(at least I am). It really bothers me remembering it.
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I remember how offended I was stumbling onto still photos of the people who had jumped on Yahoo news. I never went back there either. It is an invasion of privacy in sone way, and yet for those who feel a need to know it should be available even if it means some sick and moronic people might also get some insane enjoyment from such things.
becca, i remember being really offended when i opened the first edition of newsweek to come out after 9/11 to see a huge 4-page pullout photo of people jumping from the towers; it was such blatant and unnecessary sensationalism that i canceled my subscription.
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