If You Could Spend The Afternoon With Any Ledgie

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

this nation being that privileged these days-When we went grocery shopping this past Friday there were fliers on the grocery store doors stating that "500,000 Oklahomans will go to bed tonight either without eating or being able to provide food for their children".

Let's see, that is an estimated average of 1 in 6 in this state of 3 million who need food...Not a good figure.

That was my point but probably wasn't explained well. The nation as a whole (not each individual) is wealthy and privileged compared to so many others. Which means that we should be able to ensure that all citizens have health care, food, and basic shelter. Not only is the 1 in 6 in Oklahoma not a good figure, it is a national disgrace.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

this nation being that privileged these days-When we went grocery shopping this past Friday there were fliers on the grocery store doors stating that "500,000 Oklahomans will go to bed tonight either without eating or being able to provide food for their children".

Let's see, that is an estimated average of 1 in 6 in this state of 3 million who need food...Not a good figure.

Holy sh*t. That is really really awful.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

this nation being that privileged these days-When we went grocery shopping this past Friday there were fliers on the grocery store doors stating that "500,000 Oklahomans will go to bed tonight either without eating or being able to provide food for their children".

Let's see, that is an estimated average of 1 in 6 in this state of 3 million who need food...Not a good figure.

Does that have sommthing to do with the Native American population in Oklahoma?

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

Does that have sommthing to do with the Native American population in Oklahoma?

but during the 90's this state's economy bit the dust, It has never really recovered (Most in Oklahoma blame Clinton's signing of NAFTA for the death knell for the Oklahoma economy). Imagine how hard it is now for those who cannot afford the current gasoline prices when they cant afford to feed their families...Sure dont see our federal govt. giving a flying donkey trot about it.

Most Indian tribes are able to care for their members, so they do not have to be without food if they apply for commodities (We can qualify for 'em, but since we can afford food I dont want to take food that could feed someone else)...However the state government do not have the $$$ to care for everyone else, So the black, white & other citizens suffer (It's total BS when the state's school teachers & state employees want yet another pay raise, when the state cannot even feed it's citizens.)

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

but during the 90's this state's economy bit the dust, It has never really recovered (Most in Oklahoma blame Clinton's signing of NAFTA for the death knell for the Oklahoma economy). Imagine how hard it is now for those who cannot afford the current gasoline prices when they cant afford to feed their families...Sure dont see our federal govt. giving a flying donkey trot about it.

Most Indian tribes are able to care for their members, so they do not have to be without food if they apply for commodities (We can qualify for 'em, but since we can afford food I dont want to take food that could feed someone else)...However the state government do not have the $$$ to care for everyone else, So the black, white & other citizens suffer (It's total BS when the state's school teachers & state employees want yet another pay raise, when the state cannot even feed it's citizens.)

I didnt mean to sound ignorant, but I've heard some tribes arent exactly swimming in dough.

[seeker007nmss]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

I didnt mean to sound ignorant, but I've heard some tribes arent exactly swimming in dough.

Depends if they own a casino or not.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

I didnt mean to sound ignorant, but I've heard some tribes arent exactly swimming in dough.

depends on if they have invested wisely or not. The most successful tribes in Oklahoma take their profits from Casinos/Resorts and reinvest it in helping their members.

The Five Civilized Tribes of Oklahoma (Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw & Seminole) have hundreds of millions of dollars, Where as tribes such as the Kiowa's (Which are based in this town) have next to nothing.

Matter of fact the Creek Nation is opening a $96 million expansion of their casino in Tulsa, and the Chickasaw tribe is opening a huge casino directly off of I-35 (Fact-The Chickasaw Nation owns all the land that borders either side of I-35 from the Norman city limits all the way to the Texas state line, Over 100+ miles of interstate access.)

[Madness Fades]

Yes well anyway cheers guys,
I must remember to stroke you all off my christmas card list.

Anyway to answer this interesting topic,

I would like to meet David. That man knows too much.

I'd also like to say to meet the two Irish birds cuz theyr'e Irish of course.

Brandon a.k.a Mylittledemon cus I need some of his guitar lessons.

Tombanks and chilliD too.

few bottles of beer Fleetwood mac tunes some grass and it would be a good nights craic (for all you yanks, craic is irish slang for entertainment)

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Depends if they own a casino or not.

Or were sitting on oil deposits.