World Class Artists - Half Ass Marketing

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Not to mention several performances that were cut from the MTV broadcast.

I think that was all a clever marketing tool. I mean why buy the DVD if you taped the entire thing from the original broadcast

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think that was all a clever marketing tool. I mean why buy the DVD if you taped the entire thing from the original broadcast

I don't know if it was really a clever marketing tool, or just standard business. Most of these live concerts air on TV in an abbreviated form (usually to make room for commercials and such)... even the Soundstage shows on PBS.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I don't know if it was really a clever marketing tool, or just standard business. Most of these live concerts air on TV in an abbreviated form (usually to make room for commercials and such)... even the Soundstage shows on PBS.

Or both

I just noticed that until the DVD came out, all songs were not available. They tend to do this in other areas as well.

[Sahara]

Originally Posted by ThePenguin

That's what people tend to do though, is to start off with a compliment! i guess it's human nature. i think by now he's just accepted it. I can't exactly cut out everybody's kind words LOL. and FWIW I think many good questions have followed up the compliments!!

-Lis

I think it's an understandable thing to do. I mean, the fact that they're asking these questions shows that these people have had an impact on their lives -- it's a chance to say something, anything to them and the first thing on most people list of things to say is a "Thank You".

Does that not make sense?

[Tango]

Originally Posted by ThePenguin

I'm think I have leave it up to Penguinhead, as he broached the topic to begin with.

Maybe it can be rephrased a bit? Maybe it can just be signed 'desperate fans from the Ledge' LOL....Surely there has to be a way to get this point across to him....'sow the seed' as someone said. what the heck, it can't hurt.

During the first Q&A a couple years ago, he did request some questions that 'weren't so flattering'-- so I don't think he'd be insulted by honest expressions of frustration. And if he wants to skip it, he can skip it, big deal.

whatever you guys wanna do.....

-Lis

If you are looking for votes, I say "ask it!" Why not let someone in the band know what we want, even if one member can't do anything about it! I think we all want to be heard! Thank you Lis!

[Peestie]

Originally Posted by Tango

If you are looking for votes, I say "ask it!" Why not let someone in the band know what we want, even if one member can't do anything about it! I think we all want to be heard! Thank you Lis!

I'd go along with this.

[ThePenguin]

Originally Posted by Tango

If you are looking for votes, I say "ask it!" Why not let someone in the band know what we want, even if one member can't do anything about it! I think we all want to be heard! Thank you Lis!

Does anybody want to rephrase it so it is more constructive and not offensive etc?


if not I can just take the original and tweak it a little myself; i can just sign it as 'members of the ledge' etc.

I wouldn't expect too much though. As far as I know, John has no manager, and IMO seems an unlikely candidate to raise topics like these in band meetings.....but on the other hand, it can't hurt to express an opinion shared by many in the fan community.

-Lis

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by ThePenguin

Does anybody want to rephrase it so it is more constructive and not offensive etc?

Here's my stab at it (feel free to sign it "members of the Ledge" if other folks approve):

Hi John! A lot of us fans were very excited by the reissues of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours and Tusk a couple of years ago. The remasters of the albums sounded fantastic, and all of the bonus material was a real treat to hear. We would be ecstatic to see similar treatment given to the rest of the band's catalogue - Mirage and Tango in the Night, of course, but also all of the band's albums back to Then Play On. For that matter, many fans are also hungering for official releases of such great long lost Mac documents as the Mirage concert video and the Tusk documentary - our old VHS tapes are all but worn out! Do you know if the band or the record label has any plans to follow through with projects like these? If not, is there any way to let them know how much Fleetwood Mac fans would appreciate seeing these albums and videos get a deluxe treatment? It seems that so many other artists from the 70s and 80s are busily remastering their entire catalogues and releasing all kinds of bonus goodies for their fans. We just want the band and Reprise to know that there is a huge market of die-hard Mac fans out there who are just dying for the opportunity to re-experience our favorite albums and videos and buy more Fleetwood Mac music to add to our collections! Thanks as always for taking the time to answer our questions with your trademark wit and aplomb!

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Here's my stab at it (feel free to sign it "members of the Ledge" if other folks approve):

Hi John! A lot of us fans were very excited by the reissues of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours and Tusk a couple of years ago. The remasters of the albums sounded fantastic, and all of the bonus material was a real treat to hear. We would be ecstatic to see similar treatment given to the rest of the band's catalogue - Mirage and Tango in the Night, of course, but also all of the band's albums back to Then Play On. For that matter, many fans are also hungering for official releases of such great long lost Mac documents as the Mirage concert video and the Tusk documentary - our old VHS tapes are all but worn out! Do you know if the band or the record label has any plans to follow through with projects like these? If not, is there any way to let them know how much Fleetwood Mac fans would appreciate seeing these albums and videos get a deluxe treatment? It seems that so many other artists from the 70s and 80s are busily remastering their entire catalogues and releasing all kinds of bonus goodies for their fans. We just want the band and Reprise to know that there is a huge market of die-hard Mac fans out there who are just dying for the opportunity to re-experience our favorite albums and videos and buy more Fleetwood Mac music to add to our collections! Thanks as always for taking the time to answer our questions with your trademark wit and aplomb!

That's an awesome synopsis.

The funny thing with the concert videos (Stevie's too) is that the band is actually losing money by not releasing them due to all the bootlegs being sold. Now that John is online, have him check eBay or MusicStack.com for "Fleetwood Mac DVD" - I have a feeling he'd be shocked.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Here's my stab at it (feel free to sign it "members of the Ledge" if other folks approve)....

It gets the thumbs-up from me, if that counts for anything.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Nixxxed

The funny thing with the concert videos (Stevie's too) is that the band is actually losing money by not releasing them due to all the bootlegs being sold. Now that John is online, have him check eBay or MusicStack.com for "Fleetwood Mac DVD" - I have a feeling he'd be shocked.

I think they'd soil themselves if they ever saw how much money some folks are willing to pay for fuzzy, 6th generation copies of various live concerts, promo videos, etc.
Fleetwood Mac may no longer sell 4 million copies of a new studio album, but they have an extremely loyal fanbase who will snatch these things up on the word "go."

[Lala]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Here's my stab at it (feel free to sign it "members of the Ledge" if other folks approve):

Hi John! A lot of us fans were very excited by the reissues of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours and Tusk a couple of years ago. The remasters of the albums sounded fantastic, and all of the bonus material was a real treat to hear. We would be ecstatic to see similar treatment given to the rest of the band's catalogue - Mirage and Tango in the Night, of course, but also all of the band's albums back to Then Play On. For that matter, many fans are also hungering for official releases of such great long lost Mac documents as the Mirage concert video and the Tusk documentary - our old VHS tapes are all but worn out! Do you know if the band or the record label has any plans to follow through with projects like these? If not, is there any way to let them know how much Fleetwood Mac fans would appreciate seeing these albums and videos get a deluxe treatment? It seems that so many other artists from the 70s and 80s are busily remastering their entire catalogues and releasing all kinds of bonus goodies for their fans. We just want the band and Reprise to know that there is a huge market of die-hard Mac fans out there who are just dying for the opportunity to re-experience our favorite albums and videos and buy more Fleetwood Mac music to add to our collections! Thanks as always for taking the time to answer our questions with your trademark wit and aplomb!

Nice.

You could add something about the desire for a DVD containing all the music videos. Also, bring up the ebay thing.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by Lala

Nice.

You could add something about the desire for a DVD containing all the music videos. Also, bring up the ebay thing.

You got it:

Hi John! A lot of us fans were very excited by the reissues of Fleetwood Mac, Rumours and Tusk a couple of years ago. The remasters of the albums sounded fantastic, and all of the bonus material was a real treat to hear. We would be ecstatic to see similar treatment given to the rest of the band's catalogue - Mirage and Tango in the Night, of course, but also all of the band's albums back to Then Play On. For that matter, many fans are also hungering for official releases of such great long lost Mac documents as the Mirage concert video, the Tusk documentary, and even the band's various music videos - our old VHS tapes are all but worn out! (Meanwhile, bootleggers are making a fortune at the band's expense by selling this stuff at ridiculous prices on eBay and other websites.) Do you know if the band or the record label has any plans to follow through with projects like these? If not, is there any way to let them know how much Fleetwood Mac fans would appreciate seeing these albums and videos get a deluxe treatment? It seems that so many other artists from the 70s and 80s are busily remastering their entire catalogues and releasing all kinds of bonus goodies for their fans. We just want the band and Reprise to know that there is a huge market of die-hard Mac fans out there who are just dying for the opportunity to re-experience our favorite albums and videos and buy more Fleetwood Mac music to add to our collections! Thanks as always for taking the time to answer our questions with your trademark wit and aplomb!

[Tango]

Thank you Jyqm! Maybe the "q" is silent, but I'm glad YOU are not! Lis, maybe you can ask John to pass the info along to Chris, too. It isn't that hard to release even a limited edition of these things. I bet they (Fleetwood Mac) could twist the arm of the webmasters of The Penguin and even have it sold here! So many WASTED opportunities.

Thank you again, to BOTH Jyqm and Lis for being willing to get the word out.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

You got it:

good job...