Question About "Outside The Rain" - Page 2

BlackWidow · #16 03-18-2006, 09:49 AM

I love Outside The Rain. She obviously loves performing this song in concert.
It usually opens every set list. She has called it the sequel to DREAMS. I love it..it is very heavy with Stevie DRAMA....

Sahara · #17 03-18-2006, 10:01 AM

I'm pretty obsessed with Outside the Rain too. It's just such a great song. I'm not so fond of Dreams, I'm afraid, and I'd have a hard time choosing between Enchanted and Outside the Rain as an opener...

OTR is one of the best songs on Bella Donna, for sure, which I actually find to be a fairly uninteresting album. *ducks behind the chair*

priestofnothing · #18 03-18-2006, 11:26 AM

Stevie has said in interviews that Outside the Rain is the song Fleetwood Mac would have done at that time had she been working on a band album. I think she sees this song as the "link in the chain" between her new solo career with Bella Donna and her career with Fleetwood Mac up until that point. I also remember her saying the song was a continuation of Dreams, but why she performs them the other way around (OTR/Dreams) I don't know. Plus Tom Petty produced it so I'm sure that makes it special to her too.

Waddy has been trying to get her to drop OTR from the set for years. But did get her to do Rock and Roll (Go Waddy!)

SillyDreamer · #19 03-18-2006, 12:11 PM

It's a kickass song that's even better live than on BD, and it flows into Dreams, annnnd it's a kickass opener. If you don't believe me, just listen or watch OTR from Red Rocks '86. The drums and the opening chord come in, and it's pretty much amazing. I get chills almost every time I hear it.

I don't have any good versions of this song from '98 or later, heh, but I would wholeheartedly recommend the RR version or even House of Blues from '94 for those that aren't impressed.

DavidMn · #20 03-18-2006, 12:39 PM

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I really really do wish that Stevie would do HSML in concert more often.
It is such a gem to hear live.

You said it! I loved hearing it in Vegas.

David · #21 03-18-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by priestofnothing

Stevie has said in interviews that Outside the Rain is the song Fleetwood Mac would have done at that time had she been working on a band album. I think she sees this song as the "link in the chain" between her new solo career with Bella Donna and her career with Fleetwood Mac up until that point. I also remember her saying the song was a continuation of Dreams, but why she performs them the other way around (OTR/Dreams) I don't know. Plus Tom Petty produced it so I'm sure that makes it special to her too.

It's a continuation in the sense that it was written after Dreams & is a snapshot of Stevie's emotional life a few years after Dreams. So in that sense it's a continuation. (It's also written in the same key with similar chord progressions that allow for musical as well as thematic conjoining.)

But that isn't relevant to the order they're performed in for the medley. That's strictly a musical reasoning behind that order: Outside the Rain is the obvious one to open with because it has a more dramatic introduction & it is generally has more dramatic moments in it--more buildups, more climaxes. Whereas Dreams is the logical musical choice to end the medley because 1) it actually has an ending, not a fade & 2) it's the denoument of the presentation, the resolution, the solution of the problem.

You couldn't really medley INTO Outside the Rain--it would sound weird because you can't medley into crashing chords that have an introductory feel to them.

Similar reasoning was behind In the Back of My Mind segueing into The Chain. You would be less likely to make musical, aural sense of it the other way round.

It's like sonata form: there's a linearity to the progression----exposition of the theme or themes, development of these themes, recapitulation of these themes, & finally coda & resolution.

This is part of what musical directors do. They make decisions like these.

JazmenFlowers · #22 03-18-2006, 01:58 PM

OTR is my #2 favorite Stevie song ever. I love it and think it is a great opening song. To me, it is like a snapshot of so much emotion dealing with Stevie's life, music and loves.

danax6 · #23 03-18-2006, 02:02 PM

Jason, you always manage to dredge up the prettiest pictures for you sig. I do wonder what exactly it is she put in/on her lips for that one though.

JazmenFlowers · #24 03-18-2006, 02:04 PM

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Jason, you always manage to dredge up the prettiest pictures for you sig. I do wonder what exactly it is she put in/on her lips for that one though.

thank you. I'm feeling very sad today for some reason and this picture captures exactly how I feel.

I think the makeup artist just went crazy with the lipliner and then had no choice but to fill it in! lol.

DavidMn · #25 03-18-2006, 02:08 PM

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thank you. I'm feeling very sad today for some reason and this picture captures exactly how I feel.

I think the makeup artist just went crazy with the lipliner and then had no choice but to fill it in! lol.

Do you think it was taken in her house?

JazmenFlowers · #26 03-18-2006, 02:15 PM

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Do you think it was taken in her house?

it's hard to tell, but it's possible

DavidMn · #27 03-18-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

it's hard to tell, but it's possible

She looks so good.

AliceLover · #28 03-18-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva

Are you mocking me miss amber??

I would hardly call anything of Stevie's emo. My Chemical Romance is emo...

Yes, lyrically i can really relate to Ghosts, because most of Stevie's songs are about love, something I have never felt, i cant relate, but that doesnt mean i enjoy them any less

I also relate to Escape from Berlin as well,

What can I say, im a depressing person

GHOSTS KICKS ASS!!!

I also love Ooh My Love and Affairs of the Heart. Those would be killer live!
Amber has no clue.

AliceLover · #29 03-18-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by David

It's a continuation in the sense that it was written after Dreams & is a snapshot of Stevie's emotional life a few years after Dreams. So in that sense it's a continuation. (It's also written in the same key with similar chord progressions that allow for musical as well as thematic conjoining.)

But that isn't relevant to the order they're performed in for the medley. That's strictly a musical reasoning behind that order: Outside the Rain is the obvious one to open with because it has a more dramatic introduction & it is generally has more dramatic moments in it--more buildups, more climaxes. Whereas Dreams is the logical musical choice to end the medley because 1) it actually has an ending, not a fade & 2) it's the denoument of the presentation, the resolution, the solution of the problem.

You couldn't really medley INTO Outside the Rain--it would sound weird because you can't medley into crashing chords that have an introductory feel to them.

Similar reasoning was behind In the Back of My Mind segueing into The Chain. You would be less likely to make musical, aural sense of it the other way round.

It's like sonata form: there's a linearity to the progression----exposition of the theme or themes, development of these themes, recapitulation of these themes, & finally coda & resolution.

This is part of what musical directors do. They make decisions like these.

OT but I think ITBOMM into the chain was incredible. It flowed so perfectly.

Sahara · #30 03-18-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SillyDreamer

It's a kickass song that's even better live than on BD, and it flows into Dreams, annnnd it's a kickass opener. If you don't believe me, just listen or watch OTR from Red Rocks '86. The drums and the opening chord come in, and it's pretty much amazing. I get chills almost every time I hear it.

I love that too. My favourite bit is as she sings the last two lines of OTR and you hear the bass of Dreams. It sounds very dramatic.

Forgive me .... what's ITBOMM?