All We Are Saying

[GODDESS6]

i am taping it, i don't have a dvd recorder or i would love to share~

[BTFLCHLD]

Originally Posted by GODDESS6

i am taping it, i don't have a dvd recorder or i would love to share~

well perhaps you could let us know whats discussed? that would really be appreciated Jill

[GODDESS6]

of course i will, i am dying to see this, i already have my cable guide timer set on all the t.v.'s in the house so it'll come on ~

[Livia]

Here's another article about it:


Arquette probes music biz blues in documentary
Staff and agencies
07 March, 2006




By Ray Richmond 33 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Rosanna Arquette doesn‘t exactly embody the image of the hardcore documentary filmmaker. She bops around in a cotton summer dress toting her little hand-held digital camera, asking her vast legion of famous friends and acquaintances how they feel about stuff with all the probing intensity of a butterfly. But her gentle, sunny disposition pays off in magical ways, disarming her subjects into the kind of unguarded candor they‘re rarely inspired to demonstrate.

It worked in Arquette‘s much-praised directorial debut, "Searching for Debra Winger ," which premiered on Showtime in 2002 as a clear-eyed discussion of ageism and sexism in Hollywood with the likes of Jane Fonda , Salma Hayek , Sharon Stone and numerous others. And Arquette does it again with the insightful, if overlong, Showtime project "All We Are Saying," a superb collection of interview snippets with a wide assortment of rock stars.

Posing more like the cheerleader she is than the journalist she isn‘t, producer-director Arquette uses fawning, almost groupielike reverence to her advantage to inspire the likes of Elvis Costello , Macy Gray , Stevie Nicks , Don Henley , Anthony Kiedis, Gwen Stefani , Sting, Peter Gabriel , Joni Mitchell , Mary J. Blige Mary J. Blige and Andre Benjamin. She gets them to open up about issues that actually mean something: the sad state of the music industry, how they strike a balance between life and career and what they do to remain creatively motivated in a business that‘s now more about how you look than how you sound.

Most of the artists captured here are icons from the 1960s, ‘70s and ‘80s, including Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart, Debbie Harry of Blondie, Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders, Nicks, Steven Tyler , Iggy Pop , Graham Nash and David Crosby and even Merle Haggard , with the occasional more recent act intermixed (Kid Rock, Thom Yorke of Radiohead, Serj Tankian from Stystem of a Down). The consistent theme is that MTV, downloading technology and conglomerate ownership have largely robbed recorded music of its soul and that the latest generation of artists have been forced to hawk style over craftsmanship.

But the film is far more than a bitching session about how the good ol‘ days have passed. There‘s some stereotype-busting, too: Hynde talking about wearing a nursing bra while rocking out onstage; Patti Smith discussing how being a parent is the most important job she has ever had; and Tom Petty and Elton John wistfully admitting that being on the road without someone you love makes for an unbearably lonely ride.

There are way too many shots of Arquette holding her little camera -- it‘s like, yes, we get it, she‘s recording this all on her own -- and she perhaps errs on the side of inclusion by using 56 interview subjects. Not all of them have interesting stuff to say, but therein lies one of the pitfalls of jabbering with people you share a connection with. You‘re reluctant to cut any of them out even if it would better serve the whole to do so. It also probably wouldn‘t have hurt to incorporate more new artists and fewer graybeards. Yet in the main, "All We Are Saying" is an illuminating piece of work that effectively conveys the filmmaker‘s optimistic energy.

Executive producers: Freddy DeMann, Pilar DeMann; Producers: Rosanna Arquette, Kristina Birkmayer; Associate producer: Paul Starr; Director: Rosanna Arquette; Directors of photography: Deverill Weekes, Rosanna Arquette; Editor: Gail Yasunaga; Music supervisor: Bryan Ray Turcotte, Nathan Ehrenfeld; Sound mixers: Janet Urban, Joe Hettinger.

Featuring: B-Real, Burt Bacharach , Andre Benjamin, Mary J. Blige, Boy George, Elvis Costello, David Crosby, Cheryl Crow, DJ Muggs, Dean DeLeo, Robert DeLeo, Perry Farrell , Flea, Bob Forrest, Peter Gabriel, Amanda Ghost , Alison Goldfrapp, Kim Gordon , Macy Gray, Will Gregory, Merle Haggard, Ben Harper , Debbie Harry, Don Henley, Mark Hudson, Chrissie Hynde, Iggy Pop, Jimmy Iovine, Elton John, Rickie Lee Jones , Maynard James Keenan, Kid Rock, Anthony Kiedis, Sean Lennon , Annie Lennox , Los Lonely Boys, Shelby Lynne , Marilyn Manson, Joni Mitchell, Thurston Moore , Graham Nash, Willie Nelson , Stevie Nicks, Yoko Ono , Beth Orton , Tom Petty, Chris Robinson , Patti Scialfa , Patti Smith, Gwen Stefani, Sting, Serj Tankian, Steven Tyler, will.i.am, Ann Wilson, Nancy Wilson, Thom Yorke.

Reuters/Hollywood Reporter

http://www.newsone.ca/westfallweekly...news&id=154004

[GODDESS6]

so far the show is great, they have showed stevie once so far, where she says she would of been a teacher if not for rock & that she likes to pass on advice & such to younger artists, such as michelle branch, & she said it is sad that music isn't about the "songwriting" anymore...~oooowww she's back~

[GODDESS6]

she is talking about her having a baby would break up FM & she would never do that, she also says, that she thought if she ever wanted a baby later on in life she could adopt~ she is saying about the half assed rock star thing, that she woulda felt bad saying to her kid, "sorry, i know you are in 2nd grade & love your school, but we have to go stay in new york", stevie says, she knew that would make her not be a good mother & that's no life for a child~

[GODDESS6]

stevie is saying that it is goofy that "they" FM & her & lindsey write songs about ea other still~ she said lindsey has been wrking on a album for 2 yrs & most of the songs are about her & that she has beeen writing songs for 2 years & the songs are about lindsey~ she said she & lindsey are musical soulmates & that, that isn't always good cuz they get mad & don't talk for 2-3 concerts, but always get over it~ she said that'll it will always be that way & it has been that way between them since 1968~ she also has a small piece at the end where she says when asked what you wanna be ,always say "rockstar"~ if you can watch it guys, it was way worth it, the whole thing was fabulous!!!~ i hope someone recorded it on dvd, i must have a copy ~

[BTFLCHLD]

jill ty you soooo much for every lil detail!
youre THE BEST!

[Kelly]

At least she is finally admitting that most of her songs are about him. Of course they write about each other, but it is cool to hear her finally admit that Lindsey writes about her as well.

Thanks for the recap Jill.

[GODDESS6]

no prob!!!~ the whole thing was awesome, the hubby & i watched the re-airing later that night & even he was enthralled, there are so many artists that she rosanna (*sp) gets to talk w/ & it is so interesting to hear the differences in opinions~ VERY COOL show!!!~

[gldstwmn]

I found myself mostly bored with this doc. The only interesting parts to me where when they showed Sean Lennon in the studio. Yoko Ono tells Arquette she can ask her anything but Arquette fails to follow up. It just seemed like a bunch of rock star sound bites to me. And Stevie's segments are certainly less than illuminating although her surroundings certainly looked interesting.
I enjoyed Burt Bacharach as well. Fabulous print on his wall and I love the fact that his music room is messy.
David Crosby's crack about being owned by a French water company is pretty funny too.

[SapphireSister]

I finally got around to watching this in it's entirety at about about 2 am last night (I recorded it but only on VCR otherwise I'd really like to share). I found parts of it to be boring but over all very enlightening. There were several themes going. The was one about the state of music today and rock and roll's effect on it (downloading, etc), another about children and the balancing of family and career, a part about inspiration and songwriting, and a part about life on the road and staying faithful (wish Stevie would have commented on this part).

Some people particularly stood out and it was fascinating to here these people's perspectives. They really live a completely different lifestyle than you and I and I found some of their answers to be really spacey and out there but after all they are artists. Iggy Pop was great, Patty Smith very relatable and thorough and I loved David Crosby. What a great guy! Mary J. Blige was also very honest and deep about her past struggles and I appreciated her positive message.

Stevie did not say anything that stood out to me except the usual "Fleetwood Mac would have broken up if I had a child". Bull**** Stevie...

What I found the most interesting is that Debbie Harry (who also chose to not have children) gave a much more honest and rational reason in my opinion. She said she was a child and did not have the emotional maturity to raise a kid at the time and that now she still regrets sometimes that she didn't have children but could always adapt. I wish Stevie would say something more to this affect because I think it was true for her as well. The partying lifestyle she led in the 70's and 80's was not exactly conducive to raising a child and I wish she would just cop to this and say I was too selfish and didn't want to give that part of my life up instead of the whole "I could not be a half assed rock star and half ass mother". Given some of what she says could be true but if she really wanted to do both I believe in my heart she could have. Sure she would have had to give a little of her career up but not all of it. Just freakin admit your career was more important to you woman!

The bit about her and Lindsey still writing songs about eachother - I'd like to know when the last time she wrote a song about Lindsey is since she claims to have only written one song in the last year.

Anyway it's worth watching. They are showing it again over the next few weeks and I highly recommend it.

[strandinthewind]

I think La Nicks implies if not states that her career was more important when she says she did not want to be a half a$$ed mom and she did not want to stop singing, etc. I mean what else could that mean?

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think La Nicks implies if not states that her career was more important when she says she did not want to be a half a$$ed mom and she did not want to stop singing, etc. I mean what else could that mean?

I know that's what she means when she talks about this repeatedly but it almost comes off as an excuse as to why she didn't have children as opposed to an honest to God reason like Debbie said (did you hear Debbie's response?). It's like she needs to make excuses to herself and the press instead of just saying "I was selfish and didn't want to give up ANY of my career or partying ways." Something about it just irks me, like she's not taking responsibility for her decision and still has issues with her choice.

Oh and I didn't like the whole "FM would have broken up if I had kids". BS, plenty of female rock stars in bands have had kids and the bands didn't break up. Mick had kids back then and the band still stayed together. Another excuse that could have some amount of truth but again, an exagerration IMO.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

. . . It's like she needs to make excuses to herself and the press instead of just saying "I was selfish and didn't want to give up ANY of my career or partying ways." Something about it just irks me, like she's not taking responsibility for her decision and still has issues with her choice . . . .

See, I do not see it as a selfish thing in that she made a choice for the benefit of the child. In other words, she says she thought the child would suffer from her absence, so she opted not to have one, which to me is different than saying screw it, I want to party. I mean she could have had a child up until say 2000, which was long after the partying days. Interestingly, in older interviews, she talks about retiring and having kids, which we now know never happened.

But, to each their own