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Old 03-12-2006, 04:17 PM
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My favorite is Say You Will...
and I would probably remove Running Through the Garden and replace it with Not Make Believe.
Same for What's the World Coming To...I'd replace it With Love Minus Zero.

And I'd probably shuffle the songs around a little more so it wouldn't be two Lindsey, two Stevie, etc.

And if I had total control over "fixing" the album, I would include one or two true duets where the two of them were more or less singing together for the whole song.
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Old 03-12-2006, 04:29 PM
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Old 03-12-2006, 04:36 PM
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A Love Minus Zero fan!!
Yup. Just takes me away from myself and puts me in a whole 'nuther mindset.
I love when Lindsey does things like that (see almost ALL of Out of the Cradle).

The funny thing is...I didn't like it the first time I heard it. I didn't even give it a second listen until months later and then...boom...loved it. Strange how things work out sometimes.
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Old 03-12-2006, 04:38 PM
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Yup. Just takes me away from myself and puts me in a whole 'nuther mindset.
I love when Lindsey does things like that (see almost ALL of Out of the Cradle).

The funny thing is...I didn't like it the first time I heard it. I didn't even give it a second listen until months later and then...boom...loved it. Strange how things work out sometimes.
Personally I think the reason they didnt include it on the album itself was because it wasnt an original Mac song. Would u agree?
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Old 03-12-2006, 05:32 PM
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"Live" 1980 -- it should have had more pictures & probably been a single tusk show
I agree with this -- it would be nice to have a Rumours/Tusk-era official concert released...

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Old 03-12-2006, 05:43 PM
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Hmm, well my favorite is Tusk, and while I cant say I dislike any song on the album, I dont love What Makes You Think You're The One, That's Enough for me, and Never Forget.
How can you not love Never Forget? That's like almost my favourite song on the whole album!! :-)

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Old 03-12-2006, 07:29 PM
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I agree with this ("Live" 1980 -- it should have had more pictures & probably been a single tusk show) -- it would be nice to have a Rumours/Tusk-era official concert released...
Me too. This album was somewhat of a disappointment if only in the respects of what it could have been. Back at the time, I had bootleg albums that had better song selections and better captured the overall event.
I think The Dance was more of what a live Mac album should be.
"Live" just sounded too much like they had to do a live album since everyone does.... here's some tapes.... whatever.....

I do love "Farmers Daughter" and "Fireflies" tho.
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Old 03-12-2006, 08:49 PM
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my favorite album is rumours, but i'd have to say tusk is a very close second ... as others have said, i wish silver springs had been on it, but maybe if it had been on the record originally, we wouldn't have that great performance from the dance

as far as tusk is concerned, the only track i ever consistently skip is "tusk" itself.
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my favorite album is rumours, but i'd have to say tusk is a very close second ... as others have said, i wish silver springs had been on it, but maybe if it had been on the record originally, we wouldn't have that great performance from the dance
My only problem with Rumours -- so it would be the one thing I would change -- is the way they recorded Songbird. I don't like it. I empathize with Mick's desire to capture something of the stirring, alienated quality of a post-concert funk, but I just don't think it works on the immaculate, dry-signal atmosphere of the other tracks to have this very wet signal of the live recording onstage at Zellerbach. Sonically, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Both Christine's vocal & her keyboard (recorded in separate takes, by the way) sound as if they were floating in a reverb chamber next door to the gas station restroom.

So that's the one thing I would change on Rumours: I would have recorded Songbird the usual way at the studio & given it plenty of dryness & compression.
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Old 03-12-2006, 09:32 PM
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My only problem with Rumours -- so it would be the one thing I would change -- is the way they recorded Songbird. I don't like it. I empathize with Mick's desire to capture something of the stirring, alienated quality of a post-concert funk, but I just don't think it works on the immaculate, dry-signal atmosphere of the other tracks to have this very wet signal of the live recording onstage at Zellerbach. Sonically, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Both Christine's vocal & her keyboard (recorded in separate takes, by the way) sound as if they were floating in a reverb chamber next door to the gas station restroom.

So that's the one thing I would change on Rumours: I would have recorded Songbird the usual way at the studio & given it plenty of dryness & compression.
i agree that it does seem like an odd choice, and it gives songbird an isolated feel on a very in-your-face record. and while we're on the topic of songbird, i wish they hadn't cut some of the lyrics.
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Personally I think the reason they didnt include it on the album itself was because it wasnt an original Mac song. Would u agree?
Yup. Even though I said I would have switched the songs on SYW and not made it a bonus track--that actually was just personal preference and would not have been the right move to make. It was a much smarter decision to have a Lindsey-original on the "real" cd.

I don't know if he was headed in the direction of adding a lot of Rolling Stone covers to the cd if it had been a double-album--I think he was just playing with a lot of music at the time--but it's good he didn't. I think we were all really expecting original music from FM--and I think they did a really good job delivering it.
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i agree that it does seem like an odd choice, and it gives songbird an isolated feel on a very in-your-face record. and while we're on the topic of songbird, i wish they hadn't cut some of the lyrics.
You mean the lyrics about 'your smile makes me feel good inside' etc? IMO it was okay to cut those since she got a similar message across in Don't Stop (all i want is to see you smile). It might've been redundant to say that twice on one album.

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Old 03-13-2006, 01:10 AM
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You mean the lyrics about 'your smile makes me good inside' etc? IMO it was okay to cut those since she got a similar message across in Don't Stop (all i want is to see you smile). It might've been redundant to say that twice on one album.

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yeah, those lyrics! you may be right - somebody should have reminded stevie about redundancy when she used that "diomand snake in a black sky" bit twice on SYW!
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While this whole incarnation isn't my fave in the 39 year history of the band, I DO have my usual opinionated views:

white album: I don't think they should've covered a tune that had already been released ("Crystal"), unless they were planning on CONSISTENTLY playing it live (or playing it live at all). Since they re-recorded a BN tune, they probably should've made it "Don't Let Me Down Again" instead. "Frozen Love" wouldn't have worked since the guitar solo section is what Lindsey pilfered for "I'm So Afraid", therefore making "Frozen Love" redundant. (My ultimate preference would've been another "new" song in that slot)

Rumours: I wouldn't change a thing. EXCEPT, since the invention of the compact disc, "Silver Springs" should've been on the CD from the very start.

Tusk: Should've been a single album upon initial release...add the second disc (as "bonus disc") upon release as a CD.

Side One:
Honey Hi
What Makes You Think You're The One
Think About Me
Sara
Over & Over

Side Two:
Angel
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Brown Eyes
Sisters Of The Moon
Tusk
Never Forget

Live:
1) As David said, should've been an entire Tusk tour show
2) No new tunes
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:14 AM
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Yup. Even though I said I would have switched the songs on SYW and not made it a bonus track--that actually was just personal preference and would not have been the right move to make. It was a much smarter decision to have a Lindsey-original on the "real" cd.

I don't know if he was headed in the direction of adding a lot of Rolling Stone covers to the cd if it had been a double-album--I think he was just playing with a lot of music at the time--but it's good he didn't. I think we were all really expecting original music from FM--and I think they did a really good job delivering it.
I agree, they certainly did.
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