Figure Skating - Page 7

DavidMn · #91 02-21-2006, 02:05 PM

How about the american pair getting only the second U.S Medal ever in Ice Dancing. Pretty cool.

elie · #92 02-21-2006, 02:13 PM

I am sorry for the second post, but I just remembered. I have been reading forums all over the internet today (not a very busy day huh?) and I was surprised to see that many american fans are also disappointed by the results. Some even mentioned that Delobel&Schienfelder are so disgusted by the constant robbing that they might withdraw from competitions altogether, if they same thing happens at world champs. Now, I don't know if that's true and it would certainly be unpleasant (and sort of childish should I say), but I think that it is pretty much obvious to everyone that the podium is most of the times pre-planned.

DavidMn, that was cool! And it was well deserved, I think, at least they were rightfully above the Ucrainians.

Serrart · #93 02-21-2006, 02:58 PM

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Romy, I understand that my view about Denk&Stav must have sounded a bit exaggerated and I didn't imply that they are as good as Torvill&Dean. What I mostly meant was that their performances are breathtaking and innovative and that is why they could potentially deliver a magnificent performance like Bolero some day. IMO they are the only couple who are capable of doing that . But they won't. Because, as you said, they are always too stressed to prove they are good while they don't actually have to. And IMO, this happens exactly because they are always underrated by the judges.

Elie, they are just a step apart from being the best. They just got nervous. The 2 points deduction looks really too high, and till now I've just found the scores on the singular elements of judgement, not the reasons for the deduction. Even though watching the program the extendend lifts are definitely there, and they shouldn't, especially if your opponents point almost everything on the skating quality. But Navka-Kostomarov aren't as loved as they seem, many judges don't appreciate them, and a quite obvious sign was their score at compulsory dances.

I agree on Delobel&Schoenfelder, they're very good but Denkova & Stavinski's class, talent and potential are much higher. I just meant the French couple managed to stay calmer. About Delobel&Schoenfelder being furious, they just have to watch again their original dance. Nobody could win a medal with a performance like that.

Romy

DavidMn · #94 02-21-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Serrart

Elie, they are just a step apart from being the best. They just got nervous. The 2 points deduction looks really too high, and till now I've just found the sscores on the singular elements of judgement, not the reasons for the deduction. Even though watching the program the extendend lifts are definitely there, and they shouldn't, especially if your opponents point almost everything on the skating quality. But Navka-Kostomarov aren't as loved as they seem, many judges don't appreciate them, and a quite obvious sign was their score at compulsory dances.

I agree on Delobel&Schoenfelder, they're very good but Denkova & Stavinski's class, talent and potential are much higher. I just meant the French couple managed to stay calmer. About their being furious, they just have to watch again their original dance. Nobody could win a medal with a performance like that.

Romy

Damn, you reall know your skating. I'm duly impressed.

skcin · #95 02-21-2006, 04:00 PM

Tacky, tacky, tacky.

http://www.ifsmagazine.com/forum/ind...pe=post&id=465

JazmenFlowers · #96 02-21-2006, 04:02 PM

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Tacky, tacky, tacky.

http://www.ifsmagazine.com/forum/ind...pe=post&id=465

oh my stars

elie · #97 02-21-2006, 04:53 PM

As DavidMn said, Romy, you really know what you are talking about and I am very glad that I can finally share views with someone who is into ice-dancing

. Personally I don't know anyone else..

I didn't catch the Original Dance so I don't know about Del&Schoen, but you 've got to be right and I thought that her reaction was sort of inappropriate. I am with athletes who accept defeat with grace (irrelevant, but that is why, in tennis, I absolutely love Kim Clijsters!) and I didn't like her reaction, even though I am a fan of theirs and I thought they deserved the bronze over the Ucrainians. I mean the same thing (sort of) happened with Petrova&Tikhonov in pairs and they didn't show any negative emotions, isn't that so?

@skcin: About the costumes- they are HIDEOUS!!

And I didn't care much for their program either.

Serrart · #98 02-21-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elie

As DavidMn said, Romy, you really know what you are talking about and I am very glad that I can finally share views with someone who is into ice-dancing

. Personally I don't know anyone else..

Well, thank you both but I've just been an avid figure skating watcher as some others of us for a certain period of time, now I still have to find someone who makes me a fan again.

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I didn't catch the Original Dance so I don't know about Del&Schoen, but you 've got to be right and I thought that her reaction was sort of inappropriate. I am with athletes who accept defeat with grace (irrelevant, but that is why, in tennis, I absolutely love Kim Clijsters!) and I didn't like her reaction, even though I am a fan of theirs and I thought they deserved the bronze over the Ucrainians. I mean the same thing (sort of) happened with Petrova&Tikhonov in pairs and they didn't show any negative emotions, isn't that so?

I totally agree. That's why I'm disheartened for the Fusar Poli- Margaglio's reaction. We really gave a bad image to remember. For the Russians, when they lose (it happens sometimes), their discipline helps I guess. Certainly I'd like to see Kostomarov's reaction to a second or third place.

I hope you'll have the chance to see Delobel&Schoenfelder's original dance. For me it wasn't properly bad, but totally lacking of ambition and inspiration. It had written on it "wood medal".

Romy

elie · #99 02-22-2006, 04:32 AM

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Certainly I'd like to see Kostomarov's reaction to a second or third place.

Romy

Lol! That would certainly be something to see...

Anyway, did you watch the Ladies' Short Program? I thought that Sasha Cohen was stunning - even though I am not a big fan of hers. But I think I want her to win. I was very sad about Carolina Kostner though, she fell in the combination and got 11th place (I think).

I usually skip the Ladies's competition since it is my least favorite , but this time it is going to be exciting. Sasha leads by 3/100 only and Irina Slutskaya is second. It's going to be a tough final at last! I hated the fact that I knew before the olympics who was going to get the gold in the Mens' competition

Patti · #**100** 02-22-2006, 07:24 AM

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What happened to Skating with Celeb's this week? Why wasn't it on? It was on last week, even with the Olympics on?

The finale is on this coming Monday night, 8/7c.

GypsySorcerer · #**101** 02-22-2006, 09:49 AM

I am really happy Cohen is in the lead at this point, although it is so miniscule and her track record isn't the best in long programs anyway. It will be very close. I have never been a fan of Slutskaya. She skated with a lot of energy and speed (as she always does), but usually her performances lack a little something for me. Cohen is superior to the rest of the field artistically, IMO, and her positions/extension in the spirals and spins are just superb.

gldstwmn · #**102** 02-22-2006, 09:55 AM

I saw little Sasha for the first time last night. She is adorable and very flexible.

I hope she wins.

skcin · #**103** 02-22-2006, 12:24 PM

Slutskaya bugs me, I don't know why. I actually liked that she wore pants, though, kind of cool. Weird how that wasn't allowed until this year? Last year? Seems a bit archaeic to tell the ladies they had to wear skirts until now.

I thought all the Americans skated beautifully. Bigtime kudos to Emily Hughes, who didn't even know she'd be skating at ALL until Kwan withdrew, then had to get her ass to Italy in a hurry. Nice going. Kimmie Meissner was a nice surprise too.

I think the standings are accurate, Sasha Cohen really was flawless. She's very elegant and has amazing balance, clean edges. I could really tell just how good she was when they did the (crap, what's it called? Figure 8? Where they go back & forth in different poses on one foot) - she was so smooth, so poised, so balanced. Others were kind of jerky or shaky at times. And where other skaters look awkward (or sometimes vulgar) in certain poses, she looks beautiful.

jannieC · #**104** 02-22-2006, 12:31 PM

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Slutskaya bugs me, I don't know why.

Is that really her name??? Yes, me too- and I don't know why either. She's obviously had a rough time of it (lot of illness) yet still, her affect bugs me. I wish I could understand what she was saying to herself over and over before her routine. However, I thought she looked GREAT in the pants outfit. I just didn't think she skated as well as she apparently had been expected to. And what was up with her leaving before everyone was done skating? Maybe she was really tired?

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I thought all the Americans skated beautifully. Bigtime kudos to Emily Hughes, who didn't even know she'd be skating at ALL until Kwan withdrew, then had to get her ass to Italy in a hurry. Nice going.

And even though she seemed annoying to me as well, it was cute how excited and happy she was over her performance.

GypsySorcerer · #**105** 02-22-2006, 03:17 PM

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I think the standings are accurate, Sasha Cohen really was flawless. She's very elegant and has amazing balance, clean edges. I could really tell just how good she was when they did the (crap, what's it called? Figure 8? Where they go back & forth in different poses on one foot) - she was so smooth, so poised, so balanced. Others were kind of jerky or shaky at times. And where other skaters look awkward (or sometimes vulgar) in certain poses, she looks beautiful.

Her spiral sequence. It is flawless; one of the best I've seen. It really is all the connecting moves, the spins, the footwork, etc that add to the performance. I hate when all a skater can do is jump well. And, I just sounded like Dick Button there.