more sep. of church and state - Page 3

irishgrl · #31 02-09-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

You mean your edited post

where you initially called it a representative democracy but then later - in an attempt at wit - said "Bush thinks we live in a Republic, the rest of us (except Jason LOL!) think we live in a Democracy...." - the latter has no qualifer dear.

I never edited out my statement that we lived in a representative democracy?? and I was basing my final comment on the definitions I posted re: REPUBLIC and DEMOCRACY.

Ive seen nothing in your lengthy previous post to indicate that we are even really disagreeing because your "definitions" from Blacks dont define "Republic" but rather they mention "Republican Government" which I submit is another term for "Representative Democracy"

strandinthewind · #32 02-09-2006, 11:53 AM

^^^^

try reading for once - to wit:

The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4).

Thus, we are a Republic.

irishgrl · #33 02-09-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Again, the Const. guarantees a republican form of govt. Why is that so hard to grasp? But and again, if you want to think we live in a representative democracy - go right on ahead.

A REPUBLIC is different from REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT. DONT YOU SEE THAT?

Republic

Modern republics
A republic is a form of government (and a state so governed) where a monarch is not the head of state. The word is derived from the Latin res publica, or "public affair", and suggests an ownership and control of the state by the population at large. The concept of democracy, however, is not implicit to that of a republic. The republican form of government may involve a limited democracy, where such rights are available only to a limited group of people. In some cases, a republic may be a dictatorial or totalitarian state. The term is also broad enough to include representative democracies.

Federal republics
Republics governed by representative democracy, in which the states play a crucial role:

Austria
Brazil
Ethiopia
Germany (since 1918)
Nigeria
USA (since 1789)
India (since January 26, 1950)

strandinthewind · #34 02-09-2006, 12:00 PM

^^^^
YAWN

Again, we are a Republic.

Finally, I no longer give a shiitte

irishgrl · #35 02-09-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

^^^^

try reading for once - to wit:

The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4).

Thus, we are a Republic.

NO, we have a Republican form of government AKA a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY

try reading YOURSELF.

irishgrl · #36 02-09-2006, 12:03 PM

one wonders how you can practice law when you are so busy always arguing with ME...........

strandinthewind · #37 02-09-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl

one wonders how you can practice law when you are so busy always arguing with ME...........

Because you are easily dismissed with rote arguments

irishgrl · #38 02-09-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Because you are easily dismissed with rote arguments

which you have yet to have done................
AGAIN: PLEASE SEE POSTS 33 AND 35. GEEZ.

chiliD · #39 02-09-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I know. Moreover, that is why we live in a Republic and not a democracy. Also, if 50% of the people someday choose to kill all red headed women, should we do that. Of course not.

So, let's see...50.7% of the PEOPLE voted for Al Gore in 2000. So, tell me who's President?

Who KNOWS how people REALLY voted in 2004, the machines were rigged.

So, who really knows how "the people" REALLY feel on ANY subject. More politician's spew.

I really think that anarchy is close.

SuzeQuze · #40 02-09-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

So, let's see...50.7% of the PEOPLE voted for Al Gore in 2000. So, tell me who's President?

Who KNOWS how people REALLY voted in 2004, the machines were rigged.

So, who really knows how "the people" REALLY feel on ANY subject. More politician's spew.

I really think that anarchy is close.

We may witness a revolution.

JazmenFlowers · #41 02-09-2006, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

We may witness a revolution.

you took the words out of my mouth

as long as I have at least one friend like Alice from Resident Evil, I'll be ok

gldstwmn · #42 02-09-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

We may witness a revolution.

Jesus H. Christ. I'm not up for that.

Can't we just impeach him?

gldstwmn · #43 02-09-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

^^^^

try reading for once - to wit:

The Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government (Art. 4, Sec. 4).

Thus, we are a Republic.

Yes, we are. At this point I think we'd be better represented by a parliamentary system.