Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito

[dissention]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

So in your expert opinion, what do you see the final vote total being?

There's no question that Alito is already on the bench.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

There's no question that Alito is already on the bench.

He was when he was nominated

Did anyone really think that was not the final outcome of this?

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by dissention

There's no question that Alito is already on the bench.

I wonder what's going to happen when John Paul Stevens dies? He's about the only one left it seems besides Ginsburg that one might be able to call a "Liberal." I wonder what he thinks these days when he's sees what's happeneing to the court.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did anyone really think that was not the final outcome of this?

You'd have to be quite a dolt to have believed that he wouldn't be confirmed. Wait until he officially gets in there, it's going to be scary.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by dissention

You'd have to be quite a dolt to have believed that he wouldn't be confirmed. Wait until he officially gets in there, it's going to be scary.

Either a dolt or willing to risk holding out hope until the fat lady has actually sung.

Yes, it'll be frightening. I hate this congress, they're all little sheep in lock step with the president except for a select few (the Kickass Caucus as the site you cited so aptly named them :laugh).

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did anyone really think that was not the final outcome of this?

Not after the Dems' pathetic performance in the hearings, no. Maybe if they spent more time making Alioto talk instead of giving endless speeches, something could have been said that would make the general public pay attention when hearing claims that he is outside the mainstream.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

Not after the Dems' pathetic performance in the hearings, no. Maybe if they spent more time making Alioto talk instead of giving endless speeches, something could have been said that would make the general public pay attention when hearing claims that he is outside the mainstream.

Interestingly, he is not horribly outside of the mainstream

[markolas]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, he is not horribly outside of the mainstream

Which is frightening in and of itself.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, he is not horribly outside of the mainstream

Yeah, when you consider what defines mainstream these days.

[markolas]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

I wonder what's going to happen when John Paul Stevens dies? He's about the only one left it seems besides Ginsburg that one might be able to call a "Liberal." I wonder what he thinks these days when he's sees what's happeneing to the court.

Souter and Breyer are also both considered liberals. God help us if Stevens dies before Dubya leaves office. If he does, can't we just prop him up like they did that guy in Weekend at Bernie's??

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by dissention

There's no question that Alito is already on the bench.

Not to get off topic, but I thought I'd ask you, what part of Massachusetts does Barney Frank represent? is it Boston?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

Ken Salazar, Colorado

I'll never vote for him again.

[Rickypt]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Interestingly, he is not horribly outside of the mainstream

I think wanting to overturn Roe is outside the mainstream. Majority of Americans don't want that. His failure to say that Roe is settled law opened up a big opportunity for the Dems. Instead they made long pompous speeches about themselves and then Kennedy did that ridiculous stunt about the alumni group without having all his ducks in a row beforehand.

[Rickypt]

I guess I'll predict a 58-41 vote, with Harkin abstaining (wtf?)

5 Dems voting yes and 2 Republicans voting no.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by Rickypt

I think wanting to overturn Roe is outside the mainstream. Majority of Americans don't want that. His failure to say that Roe is settled law opened up a big opportunity for the Dems. Instead they made long pompous speeches about themselves and then Kennedy did that ridiculous stunt about the alumni group without having all his ducks in a row beforehand.

I wouldnt be surprised knowing his reputation if he wasnt slightly intoxicated when he made that statement.