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Old 12-14-2005, 04:02 PM
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I Just love that thing she did on Martha's Vineyard back in 88. ONe of my alltime fav shows
I have that album. I love it.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:04 PM
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I have that album. I love it.
It's funny too becasue I used to sort of like this guy named Jesse, adn he really fu**ed me over, so that song slways reminds me of him, and it's my favorite of all time of hers, along with Coming Around Again.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:08 PM
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It's funny too becasue I used to sort of like this guy named Jesse, adn he really fu**ed me over, so that song slways reminds me of him, and it's my favorite of all time of hers, along with Coming Around Again.
I'm still rather fond of You're So Vain. And there's a great version of it on that album.
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:06 AM
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She just finished her tour recently and came out with a live DVD. I tried so hard to get tickets for opening night in Boston and I couldn't. I'm still pissy about it. Her site has lots of photos from the tour and she looks amazing.
I saw her at the Time Warner Center last month. It was great, if for no other reason than the fact that it was such a novelty to see her in concert. But it was sad to see that her voice is pretty much gone- throughout all of the years of hearing her recorded concert videos and albums, I have never heard her screech so much or hit so many bum notes. And "Let the River Run" was performed as a lame little dirge, as opposed to the big exalted production number that it should be, and it was even dropped an octave or two. And her choice of wardrobe was appalling - she kept this big, schmatta on her head the whole night and wore various boho flapper dresses, pants, painters smocks and shawls . This was a shame because it was obvious that, despite being a 60-year-old broad, she still had a striking statuesque figure under all of those layers. But amazingly, despite all of her voice problems, she managed to pull off a really wonderful rendition of "Coming Around Again" in its original key, which is probably one of her most vocally demanding tunes. But the total thrill of the night for me was when she did "Private," one of those buried treasures from "Letters Never Sent." I was pissed that she did nothing from "The Bedroom Tapes," but all was forgiven after "Private."
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Old 12-15-2005, 11:31 AM
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I saw her at the Time Warner Center last month. It was great, if for no other reason than the fact that it was such a novelty to see her in concert. But it was sad to see that her voice is pretty much gone- throughout all of the years of hearing her recorded concert videos and albums, I have never heard her screech so much or hit so many bum notes. And "Let the River Run" was performed as a lame little dirge, as opposed to the big exalted production number that it should be, and it was even dropped an octave or two. And her choice of wardrobe was appalling - she kept this big, schmatta on her head the whole night and wore various boho flapper dresses, pants, painters smocks and shawls . This was a shame because it was obvious that, despite being a 60-year-old broad, she still had a striking statuesque figure under all of those layers. But amazingly, despite all of her voice problems, she managed to pull off a really wonderful rendition of "Coming Around Again" in its original key, which is probably one of her most vocally demanding tunes. But the total thrill of the night for me was when she did "Private," one of those buried treasures from "Letters Never Sent." I was pissed that she did nothing from "The Bedroom Tapes," but all was forgiven after "Private."
I noticed that her voice had gone to **** when she was on 20/20 last year to talk about John Forte and his mandatory minimum drug sentence. I still like it, though, and it sounds great on "Moonlight Serenade" and the new DVD (for the most part). From all the photos I've seen from the tour, she's still got an amazing figure and I'm sorry to admit that I liked the get-ups that she wore.

That's awesome that she played "Private." "Letters Never Sent" is one of my favorites, along with "The Bedroom Tapes" and "Coming Around Again." If you don't have the new DVD, I recommend it for the acoustic set alone.
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:20 PM
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Unlike Stevie, Carly Simon knows her ****. Her and Richard Perry financed "Moonlight Serenade" by themselves and then sold it to Sony.

And Stevie sold most of her songs to SONY or BMI or something
and made a fortune that way. So, "HA, HA, HA, in
your FACE sucka!!!" ( lmao )
( So admittedly, maybe she has a little more money than I figured -
I still say she ain't exactly in "Bill Gates territory," though. . . . )

Trivial pursuit question - what is the ONLY song Stevie wrote and sang
that she has NEVER owned the rights to?
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Old 12-15-2005, 08:25 PM
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She didnt come near here unfortunately. I'm so happy for her that she has been able to oveercome her stage fright problems to the extent that she can go out there and perform. I Just love that thing she did on Martha's Vineyard back in 88. ONe of my alltime fav shows

I'm not really clear on the extent of C.S.'s "stage fright problems" -
she played it down a lot recently, in an interview that aired on
VH-1 Classic. But I've also heard her say that performing was actually
suggested to her by a psychotherapist, as a way to help her overcome
her shyness. I think maybe now that she's a little older and has so much
experience it isn't as big of a deal for her.
Stevie gets nervous too, of course, but maybe for her it's more of
a fun, exciting, free "adrenaline high."
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:20 PM
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Trivial pursuit question - what is the ONLY song Stevie wrote and sang
that she has NEVER owned the rights to?
I have no idea... do tell!
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:32 AM
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^^ Well, I remember she didn't own the rights to Silver Springs, and he was an ass and wouldn't give it to her when she asked at one point. They got in a huge fight - I think it was at this point that she said she'd never play/record/perform with Mick again.

Is that the only one?
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I have no idea... do tell!
I believe she has never owned the rights
to "Beautiful Child" - and all of the money
from that goes to charity. Check out the
liner notes to "Live in Boston."
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:40 AM
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^^ Well, I remember she didn't own the rights to Silver Springs, and he was an ass and wouldn't give it to her when she asked at one point. They got in a huge fight - I think it was at this point that she said she'd never play/record/perform with Mick again.

Is that the only one?
It's true that Stevie doesn't own the rights to "Silver Springs," not because they belong to Fleetwood Mac though, but because she signed them over to her mother when she first wrote it.
Barbara is the sole owner, and therefore receives full royalties for that song... which, I think, is the real reason it pissed Stevie off so deeply that not only was it bumped from 'Rumours' (a move that had to have cost her mother MILLIONS), but was also denied inclusion on 'Timespace' (which also would have made a nice sum of money for Mrs. Nicks).
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It's true that Stevie doesn't own the rights to "Silver Springs," not because they belong to Fleetwood Mac though, but because she signed them over to her mother when she first wrote it.
Barbara is the sole owner, and therefore receives full royalties for that song... which, I think, is the real reason it pissed Stevie off so deeply that not only was it bumped from 'Rumours' (a move that had to have cost her mother MILLIONS), but was also denied inclusion on 'Timespace' (which also would have made a nice sum of money for Mrs. Nicks).
Yeah, but her mother didn't prevent her from putting it on Timespace. It was Mick, wasn't it? This one has me confused.

As for Beautiful Child, I think she owns the rights. She just gives the proceeds from it to charity.
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I believe she has never owned the rights to "Beautiful Child" - and all of the money from that goes to charity. Check out the liner notes to "Live in Boston."
This is also true. The publishing rights to "Beautiful Child" were signed over to Unicef around the time (or right before) 'Tusk' was released.

I've heard that Stevie has also signed over the publishing rights for a few other songs over the years, to friends... either as gifts (the gift that keeps on giving, no less!) or to help them out of financial difficulties.
I'm not sure exactly which songs though... but hopefully nobody was saddled with "Lily Girl"!
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This is also true. The publishing rights to "Beautiful Child" were signed over to Unicef around the time (or right before) 'Tusk' was released.
Ah - okay. I stand corrected.
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Yeah, but her mother didn't prevent her from putting it on Timespace. It was Mick, wasn't it? This one has me confused.
Fleetwood Mac owns their recording(s) of "Silver Springs"... they don't own the song itself. So the band can block how that particular recording is used... but if Stevie had wanted to re-record it as a solo track (and there were rumours that she did exactly that in the early '90s, but wasn't satisfied with it) and release her own version, they couldn't have stopped her from doing so.
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