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Old 12-06-2005, 11:41 AM
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Even if Stevie is as political as a doorknob, she is still a human among humans and as such, ought to be aware of big issues, such as war and war industries affecting humans.

What makes me so upset is her "singing" out of both sides of her mouth:
visiting the wounded soldiers of this terrible war on the one hand, which makes ME think she IS in the know about human issues, and then turning right around and blatantly supporting one of the giants in the war industry, one who delivered defective armor on top of that!

Yup, makes me lose respect in a big big way. Which is it, Stevie? writing letters to, and visiting soldiers? Or supporting the war machine by hobnobbing with it's biggest economic benificiary?
Unless! She turned around and donated the money she got from Brooks to Walter Reed or some philanthropic organization or some sort.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:42 PM
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Well, I probably should have added, it's just my honest opinion.
Nice going. At least give the other side a chance to explain themselves.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:13 PM
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Everybody hold it! How was Stevie supposed to know who the father of the girl in question was? Is she expected to know the occupation of the person who hires her for a concert?

I think everyone is really upset because they think Stevie is supporting this man, but how was she supposed to know who he really was? It is not her fault. She has to bring home the bacon somehow... And a lot of her friends (Tom and Don) were involved.

I am sure if someone offered you a million dollars to sing a couple of songs at a birthday party you would do it- no questions asked!
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:20 PM
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Well, it took me a total of about 15 seconds to find out who Brooks is through a Google search. I found out that he's a defense contractor with controversy over making flawed equipment and has a history of major labor disputes.

I don't blame Stevie, but certainly she has people on staff who look out for her public image. Whoever told her to back out of the Katrina benefit because it was disorganized surely could have warned her about this mess.
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Old 12-06-2005, 11:28 PM
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For anyone on the west coast, Anderson Cooper is going to go off on this party in the next half hour (it's 8:30 PST right now)
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Old 12-07-2005, 01:39 AM
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For anyone on the west coast, Anderson Cooper is going to go off on this party in the next half hour (it's 8:30 PST right now)

Nice to see that cnn is so neutral and unbiased, as usual!

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Old 12-07-2005, 10:48 AM
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Nice to see that cnn is so neutral and unbiased, as usual!

( But I admit that Lou Dobbs rules. )
Actually it turned out to be about a trend of highly expensive parties, and the Bat Mitzvah wasn't mentioned (even though Cooper talked about it in the teaser). They interviewed plenty of people who said they enjoyed the parties and that the money is well spent.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:13 AM
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Actually it turned out to be about a trend of highly expensive parties, and the Bat Mitzvah wasn't mentioned (even though Cooper talked about it in the teaser). They interviewed plenty of people who said they enjoyed the parties and that the money is well spent.

k cool, thanks!
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:43 AM
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Kenny G is so lame he's off the radar to me.
Bwahhahahaha! I hate Kenny G!
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Everybody hold it! How was Stevie supposed to know who the father of the girl in question was? Is she expected to know the occupation of the person who hires her for a concert?

I think everyone is really upset because they think Stevie is supporting this man, but how was she supposed to know who he really was? It is not her fault. She has to bring home the bacon somehow... And a lot of her friends (Tom and Don) were involved.

I am sure if someone offered you a million dollars to sing a couple of songs at a birthday party you would do it- no questions asked!
I agree, but it is important for the artist to watch out for any possible bad pub also. I'm not going after Stevie for performing at this thing because I wasnt there and I dont personally know what she knew, but you still have to be careful.
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:53 AM
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I went to the big pre-war protest in DC in January 2003, and that obviously didn't do very much good. Of course, there also just weren't that many people there, because at that point most people either didn't care or actually believed the bull**** they were being fed.
The apathy is deafening isn't it? And that was in 2003? Bad sign. You know, it really shocks me [although it shouldn't ] that a lot of the protest and dissention against this war has died down to such a quiet indifference lately. Either people are too self-absorbed to care (I HOPE that's not the case), or it's the frustrated hands tied behind the back syndrome, i.e., Bush has made too huge of a mess to sort this out any longer, and it's gone on too long
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The apathy is deafening isn't it? It really shocks me [although it shouldn't ] that a lot of the protest and dissention against this war has died down to such a quiet indifference lately. Either people are too self-absorbed to care (I HOPE that's not the case), or it's the frustrated hands tied behind the back syndrome, i.e., Bush has made too huge of a mess to sort this out any longer, and it's gone on too long
Unfortunately I think that people want to care like myself, but there are alot of other things going on in all our lives that are more pressing. Not that it's an excuse not to care mind you.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:28 PM
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Stevie hasn't given this guy any money or anything, she's not exactly supporting him. She _took_ money from him, as is her right to do as a performer. It might have been a mistake to do it, but the girl, the daughter, might have been a Stevie Nicks fan, and probably doesn't go around making faulty equiptment herself, even if she does benefit from it. We know Stevie really _does_ support the troops, she really _does_ give _them_ money and iPods and goes to visit them and that, and that's obviously her true feeling on the matter, because she speaks about it in such a heartfelt way and keeps going back and visiting them, and wanting to take care of them all and writing Desert Angel and all. Unlike going along with some friends and being paid to sing some songs, which is just a night out, really.

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Old 12-07-2005, 12:31 PM
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Stevie hasn't given this guy any money or anything, she's not exactly supporting him. She _took_ money from him, as is her right to do as a performer. It might have been a mistake to do it, but the girl, the daughter, might have been a Stevie Nicks fan, and probably doesn't go around making faulty equiptment herself, even if she does benefit from it. We know Stevie really _does_ support the troops, she really _does_ give _them_ money and iPods and goes to visit them and that, and that's obviously her true feeling on the matter, because she speaks about it in such a heartfelt way and keeps going back and visiting them, and wanting to take care of them all and writing Desert Angel and all. Unlike going along with some friends and being paid to sing some songs, which is just a night out, really.

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On that point, Stevie genuinely supporting the troops, I have no douvbt that's true.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:55 PM
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On that point, Stevie genuinely supporting the troops, I have no douvbt that's true.

It has to be, I certainly couldn't bring myself to spend that much time and money on something if I didn't believe in it. And I can't see why you would.

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