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Old 11-30-2005, 07:01 PM
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He didnt say SOME rich assholes he just said "rich assholes" an adjective describing a noun. no qualifier (as in SOME). Thus, your implication that I made something up is incorrect. BTW: I find it funny that you lecture to ME about inferences when you did exactly that very thing to one of MY posts.
It bugs me too, believe me.
He said MORE rich assholes. More only implies there are some. Unless he didn't say MORE rich assholes. Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly. If I am, and he didn't say more rich assholes, then I apologize.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:03 PM
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As for David Brooks, I actually havent heard of the man before, I guess I havent read the right articles apparently! And he certainly embodies excess, anyone can see that. If, on top of his obvious excess, he also shortchanges the end consumers of his goods (and all indications are that he has) he certainly qualifies for the supreme rich asshole award.
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One wonders what the future holds for David should he be indicted? What will daddy's little girl do then?
All I can think about is "Arrested Development."

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Old 11-30-2005, 07:04 PM
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I was not being snarky. I was just pointing out that other tax dollars than the ones you referenced with "His company did get to keep that $30 million even after the recall" could have gone toward this.
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I know. I'm just always suprised when people add things a person didn't say/write. I wonder, then, what they use to get the meaning they inferred if the words do not say what they inferred. To me the conclusion, based on the words, is totally illogical (and I mean that technically, like if you were doing a logic/word problem. )
Also, it helps people not misinterpret things if they base their opinions on what another person actually said rather than what they think the person meant.
Oh, and in case you are wondering, I've held my tongue on that logic problem since yesterday...it was your birthday....
fyi: I didnt add anything. my original post said I could see why Jason interpreted it the way he did. I used Eliud's exact words so if anybody is "adding" anything here, its NOT ME
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:09 PM
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He said MORE rich assholes. More only implies there are some. Unless he didn't say MORE rich assholes. Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly. If I am, and he didn't say more rich assholes, then I apologize.
he DID say "more rich assholes." What I did was parse his sentence to show how it COULD be interpreted the way Jason and I did. "more" only means an increase in the original number. Since there were no other qualifiers (such as "some") it is possible to infer that he believed the entire body of rich people to be assholes.

btw: he later clarified his meaning and thats fine. Again, my original post was regarding Jason's take on Eliud's original statement and I just wanted to say I agreed with Jason at that time.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:10 PM
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With all of this arguing over qualifiers & parsed sentences & nouns & implied meanings & making **** up, this bat mitzvah is beginning to look less ridiculous in comparison.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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he DID say "more rich assholes." What I did was parse his sentence to show how it COULD be interpreted the way Jason and I did. "more" only means an increase in the original number. Since there were no other qualifiers (such as "some") it is possible to infer that he believed the entire body of rich people to be assholes.
I think his original post said "another rich asshole" and it now reads "more rich assholes" - but I could be mistaken. I say this because I referenced "another" in one of my posts.
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With all of this arguing over qualifiers & parsed sentences & nouns & implied meanings & making **** up, this bat mitzvah is beginning to look less ridiculous in comparison.
Again, it was my mistake of his intent. And get of your high horse - no one is making anything up. I am glad you never make a ****ing mistake in your life.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:13 PM
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With all of this arguing over qualifiers & parsed sentences & nouns & implied meanings & making **** up, this bat mitzvah is beginning to look less ridiculous in comparison.
edit.

actually, you have a point there my friend!

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Old 11-30-2005, 07:14 PM
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Again, it was my mistake of his intent. And get of your high horse - no one is making anything up. I am glad you never make a ****ing mistake in your life.
Bite me. Next time you pipe up with your "I was trying to inject levity" bull****, I'll be just as much of a prick to you as you're being now since you obviously wouldn't recognize it if it flew up and bit you in the ass.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:16 PM
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I think his original post said "another rich asshole" and it now reads "more rich assholes" - but I could be mistaken. I say this because I referenced "another" in one of my posts.
even if that's true, its a minor differentiation because both indicate an increase to the original number. Whether he meant "some" or "all" was not clarified until later.

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Old 11-30-2005, 07:18 PM
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Bite me. Next time you pipe up with your "I was trying to inject levity" bull****, I'll be just as much of a prick to you as you're being now since you obviously wouldn't recognize it if it flew up and bit you in the ass.
whoa nelly! a little levity wouldnt be amiss right about now
and I was just kidding you in my post, I hope you know that! I thought you were right on actually
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:20 PM
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whoa nelly! a little levity wouldnt be amiss right about now
That's what I tried to inject before Jason suddenly went on the rag.

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Of course I knew you were kidding.
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With all of this arguing over qualifiers & parsed sentences & nouns & implied meanings & making **** up, this bat mitzvah is beginning to look less ridiculous in comparison.
Oh, hush. It's no more silly then going on and on and on and on about some TV show. Logic interests me. So sue.
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he DID say "more rich assholes." What I did was parse his sentence to show how it COULD be interpreted the way Jason and I did. "more" only means an increase in the original number. Since there were no other qualifiers (such as "some") it is possible to infer that he believed the entire body of rich people to be assholes.
Well, I disagree that it properly COULD be interpreted how you said, and still be a correct way to do so, but obviously it was, and so I will look to other sources for my academic logic knowledge, and leave you nice people be. Sides, diss has much more important things to discuss. I probably do, too, come to think of it.
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