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Old 11-09-2005, 02:01 PM
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I think it was both. I think she means they did not handcuff her and take her there in the middle of a binge. I think they, like most familes, had a meeting about it and she let them know she had to go to rehab. and she needed their support.
Yeah, it's probably something like that. I just *thought* I read somewhere that she was furious with her record label for participating in an intervention. But my (lack of) memory can rival Stevie's on some days.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:11 PM
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Yeah, it's probably something like that. I just *thought* I read somewhere that she was furious with her record label for participating in an intervention. But my (lack of) memory can rival Stevie's on some days.
Mick mentioned it in his book - saying something like she felt coerced into the first rehab., etc. But, she has consistently said that she wanted to go and knew she had to go. It could also be that she made the decision to go, but backed out a couple of times out of fear, which I have seen happen. Then, her people told either you go or else.

Also, I know - all these facts are in my head and come out like The Fly sometimes
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:14 AM
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Great interview, but I actually disagree with her about Klonopin. Exactly how much was the woman taking?? I have generalized anxiety and have had panic attacks, and this medication has given me some semblance of normalcy again. Granted I take 1-3 mg a day and not huge doses, but there have been times I've skipped taking the pill for a few days and nothing major happens. Heck, I can even take Xanax on and off as needed and it's no problem.

It makes me wonder if she was dramatizing the effects of Klonopin, on a heavy-duty dose, or just plain abusing it. Every psychiatrist I've ever seen has always said Klonopin is far better than any other tranquilizer out there.

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Old 11-10-2005, 06:02 PM
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I just can't believe he actually threw his guitar at her. Thank Goodness she ducked!!
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:45 PM
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It makes me wonder if she is dramatizing the effects of Klonopin, on a heavy-duty dose, or just plain abusing it. Every psychiatrist I've ever seen has always said Klonopin is far better than any other tranquilizer out there.

Probably all of the above. Once she developed a pattern of abuse with the coke, it probably wasn't hard at all to transfer that behavior and way of thinking to the Klonopin. If a little is good, a lot must be even better, right? I think the psychiatrist who prescribed the Klonopin to her in the quantities it must have taken to effect her the way she describes was extremely irresponsible.
(I haven't read most of this thread, so if I repeated anything that has already been said, I apologize).
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:03 PM
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That was the longest interview i've ever heard of stevie... and guys i should tell you now that i've never SEEN an interview coz i dont get your tv shows over here....

Anywho, i really enjoed the way the interviewer addressed her, i liked that she didn't tip toe around stevie and that she was direct. I get the feeling that Stevie really is in her own little world.. Well not on her own, but not in reality. That may be a little off topic but she really does seem that way.

Anywho i though it was a great interview, though i also didn't like the way she spoke of lindsey, how come she never says that she behaved badly?? ... its always someone else, or brings their image down. Now yes i know i know our Stevie is perfect.... but allthe time?
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:51 AM
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That was the longest interview i've ever heard of stevie... and guys i should tell you now that i've never SEEN an interview coz i dont get your tv shows over here....

Anywho, i really enjoed the way the interviewer addressed her, i liked that she didn't tip toe around stevie and that she was direct. I get the feeling that Stevie really is in her own little world.. Well not on her own, but not in reality. That may be a little off topic but she really does seem that way.

Anywho i though it was a great interview, though i also didn't like the way she spoke of lindsey, how come she never says that she behaved badly?? ... its always someone else, or brings their image down. Now yes i know i know our Stevie is perfect.... but allthe time?
Ten points for you! Lindsey is always the bad guy when listening to Stevie. The problems or fights were never her fault. It is part of the whole SnL schtick. The way she portrays their relationship in the media plays into the whole thing they are selling onstage.

I want to know how this story morphed from a mocking with his coat and kicking his foot out, to him almost hitting her with his guitar? In Dance interviews, Christine talks about this incident and describes it as Lindsey mocking her during Rhiannon and then pretending to kick her. Stevie adds the bodyguards jumping in after they all run backstage to confront him. She tells the same story in 2005 but what happened onstage is different. Stevie even goes into how there was no encore and LB left the stage and all of them ran back to see who could attack him first during that RS Dance interview. Eight years later, the story has morphed into a guitar tossing incident. No, I do not think there were two incidents because Stevie or Mick, or one of them, says that was the only night they did not do an encore. Perhaps LB threw a guitar at her some other time, OFFSTAGE...but I am sure Stevie tossed some things at him too over the years. If anyone believes otherwise, they are pretty naive. The problem I have is now this "'story" will be passed around for years and years and Lindsey looks like an abusive prick...based on Stevie's interview. What she said contradicts the way the story was told in 1997 and in Mick's book. (including by Stevie herself, in 97) Six months from now someone will start a thread about how LB tried to kill Stevie with a guitar and how he is a bastard, blah blah blah. Stevie cares deeply about how she is percieved by people. Her image and legacy are very important to her. She should show Lindsey the same respect. I have said before, but I will say it again. Lindsey has always respected her privacy. He has never really betrayed her in the press. (please do not bring up the lounge act comment, that was an opinion about her show, not a personal attack) Plenty of the other men Stevie was involved with, have gone on to tell her secrets in books, to magazines, on radio interviews. LB has always shown an incredible amount of class when it comes to not outing Stevie on a variety of things. He just allows her to say the things she does and never contradicts her in the media, nor does he lash out in response. This aspect of their dynamic, specifically Stevie, bothers me. If she is going to stand up and talk about band skeletons (LB), she needs to speak up more often about all the good things he has done for her over the years. The negative talk has vastly outweighed the positive regarding LB. (and no I do not believe she really feels negatively towards him, I said above I feel it plays into the whole love/hate, hot/cold schtick they use to sell their show) "and we still have time to hate, but there's still something we can sell"'...

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Old 11-11-2005, 11:06 AM
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Great interview, but I actually disagree with her about Klonopin. Exactly how much was the woman taking?? I have generalized anxiety and have had panic attacks, and this medication has given me some semblance of normalcy again. Granted I take 1-3 mg a day and not huge doses, but there have been times I've skipped taking the pill for a few days and nothing major happens. Heck, I can even take Xanax on and off as needed and it's no problem.

It makes me wonder if she is dramatizing the effects of Klonopin, on a heavy-duty dose, or just plain abusing it. Every psychiatrist I've ever seen has always said Klonopin is far better than any other tranquilizer out there.
For whatever reason, Stevie must have just started taking too much - possibly over what the doctor had recommended. In other words, she may have started abusing it. My mother (who is 57) had to go to rehab last year for abusing Rx meds. But even after rehab she fell off the wagon, found another MD to prescribe her the stuff she likes, and ended up almost dying. Those pills can be deadly if abused. However, if used responsibly (like I imagine you are), they can be fine.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:11 PM
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Great interview, but I actually disagree with her about Klonopin. Exactly how much was the woman taking?? I have generalized anxiety and have had panic attacks, and this medication has given me some semblance of normalcy again. Granted I take 1-3 mg a day and not huge doses, but there have been times I've skipped taking the pill for a few days and nothing major happens. Heck, I can even take Xanax on and off as needed and it's no problem.

It makes me wonder if she is dramatizing the effects of Klonopin, on a heavy-duty dose, or just plain abusing it. Every psychiatrist I've ever seen has always said Klonopin is far better than any other tranquilizer out there.
From the things she has said about it I gather her doctor miss prescribed this for her. She said he said it was for the depression from quitting coke. I wouldn't be surprised if she did take too much of it though. It's possible she was prescribed a dose too high though. It is really irresponsible to prescribe an addict an addictive drug. The whole thing was a combination of the doctor's negligence and Stevie's messed up state of mind. It really sucked because she lost half her 30s and some of her 40s to it. I'm so glad she emerged from it!
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:28 PM
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It is really irresponsible to prescribe an addict an addictive drug.
I completely agree - that physician must've been as lax as they come. To even get a script I have to get a triplicate and take it to the pharmacy (no phone-ins allowed) and my psychiatrist asks me how much I'm taking, how I feel I'm doing, and then bases how many pills to prescribe on that. Everyone I've seen has always been extremely cautious with any of the benzodiazepines and prescribe them in the smallest quantities possible.

Of course, the doctor Stevie saw probably catered to the stars and had seen worse before. But thank goodness she realized she had a problem and got off of the stuff. It seems so ridiculous they'd give her a potentially addictive drug to get off of another.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:12 PM
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From the things she has said about it I gather her doctor miss prescribed this for her. She said he said it was for the depression from quitting coke. I wouldn't be surprised if she did take too much of it though.
I suspect she did. Gifted as she may be, and lucid as she seems, Stevie sounds as if she has some strange blind spots concerning such things. I mean, this is a person who says no one ever told them cocaine was dangerous.

I read in a book in 2nd grade (1973) all about heroin, pot, speed and coke. It was right there in print that it was dangerous, addictive, and illegal. I wasn't reading a classified top secret document. And I was seven years old. So, on the topic of drugs, I think Homegirl needs to be taken with a truck load o' salt.
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Ten points for you! Lindsey is always the bad guy when listening to Stevie. The problems or fights were never her fault. It is part of the whole SnL schtick. The way she portrays their relationship in the media plays into the whole thing they are selling onstage.
I don't see a man kicking a woman as a reasonable reaction to a quarrel not even if they're rockstars. The don't bounce either as far as I know.

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She should show Lindsey the same respect. I have said before, but I will say it again. Lindsey has always respected her privacy. He has never really betrayed her in the press. (please do not bring up the lounge act comment, that was an opinion about her show, not a personal attack) Plenty of the other men Stevie was involved with, have gone on to tell her secrets in books, to magazines, on radio interviews. LB has always shown an incredible amount of class when it comes to not outing Stevie on a variety of things. He just allows her to say the things she does and never contradicts her in the media, nor does he lash out in response. This aspect of their dynamic, specifically Stevie, bothers me. If she is going to stand up and talk about band skeletons (LB), she needs to speak up more often about all the good things he has done for her over the years. The negative talk has vastly outweighed the positive regarding LB. (and no I do not believe she really feels negatively towards him, I said above I feel it plays into the whole love/hate, hot/cold schtick they use to sell their show) "and we still have time to hate, but there's still something we can sell"'...

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I'm not going to blast away because I completely agree. That was more or less what I was trying to say about one thousand pages back in this thread. lol. If Lindsey truly is her friend and she cares about him then why talk so much trash about him? I would like to say that I respect her honesty, but unfortunately, I don't believe she is being 100% honest when she talks about him and I think that's sad.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:05 AM
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The problem I have is now this "'story" will be passed around for years and years and Lindsey looks like an abusive prick...based on Stevie's interview.
I thought Carol Ann Harris already made him look like an abusive prick.

Or was that Cheri Caspari? I can't keep those two straight.
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I thought Carol Ann Harris already made him look like an abusive prick.

Or was that Cheri Caspari? I can't keep those two straight.
I believe it was Carol Ann who was on Geraldo.
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