SYW - no Grammy?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Any song with the lyrics containing "Gitchie Gumee" is not a dark, complex song.

Mood/Atmosphere honey...we learned about it in 6th grade literature.

[ontheEdgeof17]

^ I'm sure that was some rude remark but I can't read it cuz I blocked you, but continue on to try to fit in.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

^ I'm sure that was some rude remark but I can't read it cuz I blocked you, but continue on to try to fit in.

No it wasn't, but since you blocked me it doesn't really matter!


YES IM A CLASS A BITCH! WOOHOO

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

just because SYW is quite experimental

What do people mean when they say SYW is "experimental"? When I listen to it, the vast majority of tracks just sound like straight ahead rock songs to me. What's experimental about it?

That's a serious question, I really don't hear it.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

What do people mean when they say SYW is "experimental"? When I listen to it, the vast majority of tracks just sound like straight ahead rock songs to me. What's experimental about it?

That's a serious question, I really don't hear it.

It would be straight ahead rock, if anyone was still doing rock like that, which they aren't so much. And I wouldn't so much call it "experimental". Because for Lindsey, it's not experimental, really. It might be for someone else, with all the layering and such, but...
I would call it unusual, definitely. I really do think it is an unusual album.

I really like it, too. Lindsey ran away with this one for me, with a few notable Stevie exceptions.

So, yes, it is rock, but rock like people now don't really do. Plus, Lindsey's layering and some other stuff make it a few cuts above "straight ahead rock" for me.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

What do people mean when they say SYW is "experimental"? When I listen to it, the vast majority of tracks just sound like straight ahead rock songs to me. What's experimental about it?

That's a serious question, I really don't hear it.

I don't hear anything I'd classify as experimental either.

Eclectic, definitely. But not experimental.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I don't hear anything I'd classify as experimental either.

Eclectic, definitely. But not experimental.

For Fleetwood Mac, I'd call quite a few songs experimental. Are they in a general sense next to a lot of the music out there? Hell no. But for Fleetwood Mac to release stuff like Red Rover, Murrow, Illume, and a couple others, I'd call it experimental within the confines of that particular band.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by dissention

Pretty good. Except those two songs back to back give me an ulcer.

eat some kishka

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by David

Mac did all they could do at this point with SYW. Not only might they be disinclined to actually re-create their Rumours style of arrangement & production, they're also incapable. There wouldn't be a chance in hell of any future Mac album being arranged or produced to simulate the Rumours sonic landscape. That's gone . . . just as surely as the way we all talked before puberty kicked in. Even Mirage didn't sound like Rumours, despite what a lot of people said -- & that was twenty-something years ago.

yeah that whole thing about mirage sounding like rumours was incredibly cliche and wrong.... Mirage was LB and CM doing do wop harmonies from LB's influences. they did a pretty good job too i love straight back too of course

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Fleetwood Mac isn't going to sell millions of albums anymore, period. The group who bought SYW would purchase a FM album no matter what.

As far as SYW not winning a Grammy, eh. There are a couple individual songs that may be worthy, but the album as a whole certainly is not, IMO.

u put the words right into my mouth

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Any song with the lyrics containing "Gitchie Gumee" is not a dark, complex song.

hahaha!!! that was funny

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by amber

that is funny, but actually that song is really sad....

It is.....but look on the bright side....she got to travel.


....and I like this song.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I got my deluxe version from a friend, a "casual" fan, who bought it for herself, and HATED it.
Her hatred centered around Come, and Murrow. "A bunch of noise".
Lindsey has lost his golden ear.....and/or FM's hit songwriter!

Pfffffffffffffffft! That's rich.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Kelly

I did not really miss Chris at all on SYW.

I did. I love her organ playing (when she does it) and her harmony lends such a beautiful vocal arc to their arrangements. I think that's why I like Steal Your Heart Away so much...all those blended voices...it was like the old Fleetwood Mac again.

[David]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

What do people mean when they say SYW is "experimental"? When I listen to it, the vast majority of tracks just sound like straight ahead rock songs to me. What's experimental about it?

That's a serious question, I really don't hear it.

We'd have to define what we mean specifically by "experimental" in the context of "Tusk," the typical radio playlists in 1979 against which "Tusk" offset something or other, the characteristics of "Say You Will," & the music on the radio & elsewhere at the time "Say You Will" was released.

There are different types of experimental: songcraft/going against the established grain in song structure (which is rare in popular music), instrumentation/using traditional instruments in unorthodox ways (something Lindsey used to dabble in), new approaches in building arrangements (e.g., building a dance track like "When Doves Cry" without a bass), & thematic conceptualization ("The Ninth Wave" suite by Kate Bush, for example).