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Old 11-09-2005, 03:37 PM
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Nice vote results California! I'm pleased.

I never voted for Schwarz either.

Gray Davis was not the best governor either. Although I thought it was cool that he's gay and a governor.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:39 PM
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It's not as if he was unanimously elected...I sure as hell didn't vote for him. I thought the incumbent at the time (the aforementioned Gray Davis...or wait, was that actually Orel Hersheiser?) was doing a pretty fine job, for being railroaded.
Yeah,but how was Gray Davis' Fastball?
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:43 PM
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WHats worse? Arnie in California or his good buddy Jesse Ventura here in Minnesota. God what an embarrasment those 4 years were...
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:49 PM
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WHats worse? Arnie in California or his good buddy Jesse Ventura here in Minnesota. God what an embarrasment those 4 years were...
I liked Jesse I think he was as fair as any politician could be and he was not scared to tell people the truth as much as any politician can.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:51 PM
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I liked Jesse I think he was as fair as any politician could be and he was not scared to tell people the truth as much as any politician can.
Well, you may be right, I'll defer to your political knowledge, but alot of minnesotans viewed him as a laughingstock. Hope your mother is doing better btw
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:53 PM
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Well, you may be right, I'll defer to your political knowledge, but alot of minnesotans viewed him as a laughingstock. Hope your mother is doing better btw
She is and thanks for the PM the other day!!!!

Jesse was just alarming in stature and the fact that he was a wrestler did not help matters

Here is some stuff on him from some site, which appears accurate:

December 16, 2002

Ventura's Legacy

Gov. Ventura sought the spotlight, money Moonlighting former wrestler gained fame and infamy

AUL - For Jesse Ventura, public service was never enough.

He craved the spotlight, fans and money.

All three fell generously upon him during his four years as Minnesota's governor, fetching him both fame and infamy as he raced from book tour to movie cameo to sports commentating.

Ventura doggedly defended his moneymaking ventures, snarling that he didn't give up his rights as a citizen when he was elected.

Many people disagreed, and several tried to keep him from moonlighting - or at least to report his earnings. But ultimately, Ventura did whatever he wanted and likely earned himself millions.

Legacy

Finance Commissioner Pam Wheelock, who had a hand in most state policy initiatives over Ventura's four-year term, paused when asked about Ventura's legacy.

"It will be some of those other, more highly covered by the media events that will stick in people's minds," she said. "And I think that's a darned shame."

But while Ventura complained loudly about public scrutiny, he also courted it through many of his ventures.

He released a tell-all autobiography soon after taking office. In it, he bragged about losing his virginity as part of a teenage bet and admitted he used marijuana and steroids.

He detailed a visit to a Nevada brothel during his days as a Navy SEAL, telling of a prostitute who offered her services plus $10 for a belt he was wearing made of machine-gun shell casings.

"I'm probably one of the only people in the world who's gone into a Nevada ranch and been paid," he wrote. "I used that $10 to go to another one."

Playboy interview

After the book furor died down, Ventura stirred things up again with a Playboy interview in which he called organized religion a "sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers."

In the same interview, he suggested that lives could have been saved in the Columbine school massacre if someone at the school had had a concealed weapon, joked that if reincarnated he wanted to return as a size-38DD bra, and said some drugs should be decriminalized.

"Every public leader has a right to a private life," said Marcia Avner, director of the Minnesota Council of Nonprofits. "But some of the things he did had enough public play that they created an image of him that distracted from the role of leader."

Perhaps the biggest distraction was Ventura's short-lived career as a color commentator for the XFL, an upstart football league that promoted scantily clad cheerleaders as much as the game itself.

The now-defunct XFL paid Ventura $320,000 in expenses during his 13 weeks as a commentator for charter flights, limousine rides, meals and lodging.

Earned millions

State law, however, didn't require the governor to report outside income and he didn't - not for the XFL job or any other. Experts say he likely earned millions during his time in office, but the only income that's public information is the $120,000 he made annually for serving as governor.

Despite Ventura's antics, citizens gave him high approval ratings until late in his term, when the state's financial situation turned from surplus to deficit.

Volunteerism

He continued coaching high school football during most of his time in office. He always closed his weekly radio show by reminding listeners not to drink and drive. He started a foundation in his daughter's name that provides grants for programs and agencies helping disabled children.

During a 2000 appearance on Jay Leno's Tonight Show, Ventura put in a plug for laid-off workers on the Iron Range by encouraging businesses to locate there.

He made numerous appearances on television, including on his favorite soap opera, "The Young and the Restless."

He had bobbleheads and action figures. He had two other books, T-shirts, shot glasses, bookmarks, bumper stickers - even air fresheners. Some of those items were sold to raise money for charity, others to raise money for his '98 campaign and a possible future campaign.

Confusing enemy

Ventura said he got a kick out of confounding Republicans and Democrats about where he was on the spectrum and what he would do next.

"I was trained in the (Navy) SEALS to confuse the enemy; what they're dealing with here is a person that's an expert at guerrilla warfare."

Ventura's relationship with the local media was strained over the years, too. He took stories personally and sometimes berated individual reporters by name on his weekly radio program. He rarely gave interviews and declined again for this story.

At one point, he issued 4- by 6-inch passes to the Capitol press corps, bearing a full-body picture of the governor, dressed all in black and pointing Uncle Sam-style at the camera and designating the wearer an "Official Jackal."

Many members of the media refused to wear the badges. Eventually, Ventura bitterly rescinded his order that they be worn to get into his events.

Now, as Ventura gets ready for the next phase in his life - perhaps as a cable TV talk show host - those who worked with him or around him as governor can finally exhale.

"I'm tempted to quote Jerry Garcia," said Bill Blazar, senior vice president of the Minnesota Chamber of Commerce. "What a long, strange trip it's been."

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Old 11-09-2005, 03:55 PM
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She is and thanks for the PM the other day!!!!

Jesse was just alarming in stature and the fact that he was a wrestler did not help matters
Not a problem. Just trying to show concern. We're all in this thing called life together, you know? Youre a good guy, and youve been really nice to me since I signed on,thank you!!
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:46 PM
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At one point, he issued 4- by 6-inch passes to the Capitol press corps, bearing a full-body picture of the governor, dressed all in black and pointing Uncle Sam-style at the camera and designating the wearer an "Official Jackal."

Many members of the media refused to wear the badges. Eventually, Ventura bitterly rescinded his order that they be worn to get into his events.
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http://www.navyseals.com/community/news/news38.cfm
Hmm, Jackal, that reminds me, Jackal was the first band I saw at Woodstock '94. As we were walking into the farm/venue they were on stage and the lead singer had his pants around his ankles and was cutting something with a chainsaw.

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Old 11-09-2005, 04:50 PM
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Hmm, Jackal, that reminds me, Jackal was the first band I saw at Woodstock '94. As we were walking into the farm/venue they were on stage and the lead singer had his pants around his ankles and was cutting something with a chainsaw.

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Well that is a random stage act
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:00 PM
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Gray Davis was not the best governor either. Although I thought it was cool that he's gay and a governor.
I assume this is a joke ?

As far as Ventura goes, anyone who is neither a dem or reverslican
has the right idea.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:02 PM
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I liked Jesse I think he was as fair as any politician could be and he was not scared to tell people the truth as much as any politician can.
Wasn't he a f*cking libertarian or something?
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:05 PM
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Wasn't he a f*cking libertarian or something?
He was a member of the Reform party, but switched to the Independent party. He's an economic conservative, but he sure as **** isn't conservative on social issues.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:07 PM
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Wasn't he a f*cking libertarian or something?
And other than the fact that most of them are pot heads...what's so wrong with libertarian? lol.
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He was a member of the Reform party, but switched to the Independent party. He's an economic conservative, but he sure as **** isn't conservative on social issues.
Oh...wasn't the Reform party Ross "flat tax" Perot's party? Feh. Economic conservatives annoy me. That's why I dumped my last boyfriend.
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Old 11-09-2005, 07:09 PM
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And other than the fact that most of them are pot heads...what's so wrong with libertarian? lol.
They're "economic conservatives," to use a neutral phrase.
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