Stand Back & Little Red Corvette

[Moony]

Originally Posted by David

The idea that Miss Priss is going to write, record & release a song about or with imagery of pudenda really stretches credulity to the breaking point, does it not? I mean, c'mon, people. . . .

this is a lady who threatened to quit a band that named its album "Tusk" -- Genitalia are genitalia, & Stevie Nicks is Stevie Nicks, & nary the twain shall meet (at least not in song).

It's just a joke.

You're no fun.

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by Moony

It's just a joke.

You're no fun.

exactly. cant we all just get along?

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by Moony

It's just a joke.

You're no fun.

Check out her artwork some time. Closely!
God Bless Rock and Roll!

[pwyll]

"Stand Back" was originally penned as "Stranded". Many, including myself, think this assists the lyrics better than Stand Back. "Stranded in the middle of my room..." kinda makes more sense.

Also, Stevie is indeed singing a few background lines in Petty's "Don't Come Around Here No More"....she is not credited, such as Prince was not credited originally on Stand Back, but if you have a true "Stevie" ear, you can hear her.

If anyone has the re-issued "Originals" box of Wild Heart, the song credits for "Stand Back" are Stevie Nicks and P.R. Nelson (Prince).

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by David

this is a lady who threatened to quit a band that named its album "Tusk" --

Could be wrong, but I feel pretty sure that Stevie wasn't offended
by the word itself, but by what Lindsey was implying with it
in regards to her personally.
Also, I know there was a lot of anger behind it and if you listen
closely you can certainly hear that in his tone of voice on the
original version - it's literally scary -
but there's also some humor in the song.
Check out the end - it's basically intended as a "brain fart"
Anyway sometimes glasses got broken -
then they picked them up, got a new glass, got a refill,
and went back to The Music.
Also, when she threatened to quit over it?
I think maybe that was the third time that week. . . .
Lindsey was probably up to four by then.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Could be wrong, but I feel pretty sure that Stevie wasn't offended
by the word itself, but by what Lindsey was implying with it
in regards to her personally.

He was implying she's a dick?

[bikerchic]

Damn. This thread sounds interesting. Now I have to go back and read through all 5 pages!

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by dissention

He was implying she's a dick?

Not sure where I remember this from - Mick's book maybe.
I guess she felt he was implying that her relationship with
Mick was all about The Big 'S' and nothing else,
and that that's all that interested her.
He was saying that they were being "real savage-like."
I've also read somewhere-or-other that Lindsey indicated that
if Mick wanted to interpret it as a threat,
he wouldn't presume to contradict him.
But like I said above, imo there was an aspect of "humor" to the
song too - it basically ends on the album itself with kind of a
humorous, "this-is-just-a-brain-fart-don't-take-it-too-seriously" tone.
Essentially I think he was just venting some anger off.
Maybe once Stevie realized that she chilled about it,
a little bit. If you look at the actual lyrics, it's really a very short,
simple song - there's nine lines and then he screams "Tusk" a whole
bunch of times.
I don't think any of them felt this one was gonna be
a hit - I think that really just happened after the marching band was
added. Before that, in a way maybe it was just kind of . . .
cardboard!

B T W - I could be wrong, but I think maybe the actual album "Tusk,"
for Lindsey, and everything on it including the song "Tusk" itself,
was 100% about "The Art." So maybe he was angry, maybe he
was jealous - but I think it was almost 100% about creating an
album that would be remembered and would be about the art
and not commercialism. And if he had to piss off Stevie a little bit
to do that, well, she had been pissed off before. I don't think he was
really all that worried about that, at that particular point.
Interesting how on "Tusk" he spent so much time in the studio working
on her songs until he helped her to say exactly what she was trying to
say, in a complex, beautiful, memorable way, though.....

From "Much Ado About Nothing," by The Big W.S., 1599:

"Thou and I are too wise to woo peaceably...."

Hopefully that's not true in all cases -
but maybe it's true for them, for whateva reason....

[Alexbt]

Just to clarify some things:
Stevie has never said she "asked" Prince to write anything for Stand Back.
He simply showed up at the studio to listen to it, and had them set up an Oberheim OB-8 (Stevie's words.. she knew the model of the synth he used!) and played the 16th notes and the octave stuff.
One of Stevie's many keyboardists played the other synth part.
(The synth pad rhythm part)

[Ghost_Tracker]

Originally Posted by Alexbt

Just to clarify some things:
Stevie has never said she "asked" Prince to write anything for Stand Back.
He simply showed up at the studio to listen to it, and had them set up an Oberheim OB-8 (Stevie's words.. she knew the model of the synth he used!) and played the 16th notes and the octave stuff.

I recently read a different version of this, and was surprised by it
because it contradicted exactly what you just said. In that
version, she called him on the phone and asked him to come over
'cause she was having some trouble with it.
I think this may be one of those things that are a little . . .
"hazy" for her. . . .

[lagringader&r]

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker

Not sure where I remember this from - Mick's book maybe.
I guess she felt he was implying that her relationship with
Mick was all about The Big 'S' and nothing else,
and that that's all that interested her.
He was saying that they were being "real savage-like."
I've also read somewhere-or-other that Lindsey indicated that
if Mick wanted to interpret it as a threat,
he wouldn't presume to contradict him.
But like I said above, imo there was an aspect of "humor" to the
song too - it basically ends on the album itself with kind of a
humorous, "this-is-just-a-brain-fart-don't-take-it-too-seriously" tone.
Essentially I think he was just venting some anger off.
Maybe once Stevie realized that she chilled about it,
a little bit. If you look at the actual lyrics, it's really a very short,
simple song - there's nine lines and then he screams "Tusk" a whole
bunch of times.
I don't think any of them felt this one was gonna be
a hit - I think that really just happened after the marching band was
added. Before that, in a way maybe it was just kind of . . .
cardboard!

B T W - I could be wrong, but I think maybe the actual album "Tusk,"
for Lindsey, and everything on it including the song "Tusk" itself,
was 100% about "The Art." So maybe he was angry, maybe he
was jealous - but I think it was almost 100% about creating an
album that would be remembered and would be about the art
and not commercialism. And if he had to piss off Stevie a little bit
to do that, well, she had been pissed off before. I don't think he was
really all that worried about that, at that particular point.
Interesting how on "Tusk" he spent so much time in the studio working
on her songs until he helped her to say exactly what she was trying to
say, in a complex, beautiful, memorable way, though.....

From "Much Ado About Nothing," by The Big W.S., 1599:

"Thou and I are too wise to woo peaceably...."

Hopefully that's not true in all cases -
but maybe it's true for them, for whateva reason....

This is interesting and makes sense. I don't think Stevie is shy about sex at all but I think she thinks it's gross to talk about it openly in her songs and likes to use metaphors instead. So even tho Tusk is a metaphor, I think it was obvious to her what he meant and so it worked to piss her off. I think Lindsey is the opposite and would like to be more open about it in his songs but wouldn't want to risk it never getting played (even tho most of his don't get played anyway).

[Nicksluvver]

Originally Posted by pwyll

"Stand Back" was originally penned as "Stranded". Many, including myself, think this assists the lyrics better than Stand Back. "Stranded in the middle of my room..." kinda makes more sense.

Also, Stevie is indeed singing a few background lines in Petty's "Don't Come Around Here No More"....she is not credited, such as Prince was not credited originally on Stand Back, but if you have a true "Stevie" ear, you can hear her.

If anyone has the re-issued "Originals" box of Wild Heart, the song credits for "Stand Back" are Stevie Nicks and P.R. Nelson (Prince).

Petty Quote

"Don't Come Around Here No More"

Tom: I met [Dave Stewart] in the Eighties. When music really turned to ****. People were trying to do something, but it was all these fakey keyboard sounds. A lot of prancing and posing. So Jimmy Iovine was looking for songs for Stevie Nicks. And he came to me. I said, 'I don't really have anything left over. I don't have anything I can give away.'

And he said, 'Well, you know I'm frustrated, I'm trying to find writers. Who do you think would be a good writer?' And Dave had just come out with that "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)," which I thought was a really good song. And then I heard one or two more that I thought were really good. I said, 'You should try this guy Dave Stewart. He's in England. I don't know him, but he seems consistent as a writer. He seems really good.' So the next thing I know, not many weeks later the phone rings, and it's Dave Stewart. And he says, 'Hey, I'm here, and Jimmy told me I got the gig from you. I've come over to write some stuff for Stevie and other people. And why don't you come down? Let's get together. I'd like to see you.'

[They wrote "Don't Come" in the studio, and they spent a month producing it.]

Q: I like the stops in it, where you sing the word, "Stop!"

A: That was [Dave's] idea. To go, 'Stop!' And we used girls, which was kind of an accident. Because when we started it, we were working at Sunset Sound, and Stevie had booked the time. And the girls that sing with her had turned up for the session, but Stevie had cancelled the session. So the girls were still there. Dave said, 'Let's get them out here and see what they can do.' And then they did that great bit. [Sings "Ah ah ah ooh ooh."] And then there's a girl named Stephanie who we brought in to sing that really high, wailing thing at the end.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by dissention

He was implying she's a dick?

LMAO!

Not to mention the fact that Mick was the one who sort of started the whole Tusk thing, wasn't he?

I really dont get how sister honey could be about cocaine...how does coke relate to "can we stil be friends"? also, i've heard a lot of rumours about stevie during the RAL time period that are very sexual and graphic, so I wouldn't be suprised if she wrote it about her vagina.

[svnwndrs]

I heard that Stevie had just gotten married (1/29/83), and heard "Little Red Corvette" on the radio in the limousine with Kim. She bought the cassette album of "1999". When Stevie made it to the studio, she called Prince and he arrived at the studio and programmed the drum machine (even tho it says in the liner notes for "The Wild Heart" that the drum machine on "Nightbird" and "Stand Back" was programmed by "David Bluefield") Could that be another name for Prince? He has done it before, with "Manic Monday" he was credited as "Christopher Tracy" or something like that. Another name he would use was "Joey Coco". Prince is a musical genius, but he is strange. I still love him and his music tho.

When was "All Over U" recorded? I believe Prince was the male vocalist in the song. I mean, it sure sounds like him. The female vocals, I'm not sure about. It sounds like Stevie, but then again it doesn't. Stevie said they recorded a song together and this was back in 1983/84. But I swear this track sounds like it was recorded in the '90's. Those opening drums sound like they came straight out of 1992. So that's impossible cuz the timeline isn't right obviously. So is Stevie really on this song? Any speculation? Does anyone else notice the '90's beat and vibe this song has?

And that IS Stevie singing in the chorus of "Don't Come Around Here No More": I can hear her clearly. You might have to listen closely. But if you really are a true Stevie fan, you'll be able to hear her. I love Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, but I still kinda wish it was Stevie's song instead cuz I love that song!

I also read an article a long time ago that the last time Stevie and Prince saw each other was at the premiere for "Purple Rain". That was July 26, 1984. So they haven't talked since then? The interview that Stevie did in 1994 with Mark and Brian, and she said Prince was really mad at her and wouldn't speak to her. They spent like 10 minutes talking about Prince, and then made fun of him and were crackin jokes, and Stevie is laughing hard. Prince was mad at Stevie cuz of her drug use? Does anyone have more info on these 2 fascinating artists working together and their frindship. Did Prince want to be more than friends?

It would be so awesome if Stevie and the purple one did a record together. Like a Stevie album produced by Prince! That would be awesome!! Any thoughts?