Streisand's Guilty Pleasures - Page 6

Serrart · #76 09-23-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

um, no it doesn't and yes, we all are at some time; being under the microscope 24/7 of course you come across as a mega-bitch. do you know for a fact that that's why the person was fired?

I've heard many not so nice stories about her from journalists, for example when she came in Italy, and was invited to a famous tv program, one of her bodyguards have thrown to the floor one of our major tv stars, the presenter of the program, only because he went to her dressing room to say hi, and she didn't even come out to see if he was okay. Then she let him know she was available to take one picture with him and he said no thanks.
Anyway, I think her detachment from reality is clearly visible in her art, at least in cinema. From a Star is born up to now her Mao Tse Tung- like cult of personality seriously damaged her acting career, and to have again a chance in Hollywood she had to accept Meet The Fockers, a project she despised. She must have liked the experience though since she's listed in the new sequel too.

Romy

seeker007nmss · #77 09-23-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

um, no it doesn't and yes, we all are at some time; being under the microscope 24/7 of course you come across as a mega-bitch. do you know for a fact that that's why the person was fired?

She had the bellhops walk in backwards so they wouldn't look at her when they brought the suitcases in. Someone looked her way and she wanted them fired (The manager just moved him to another area- away from megabitch) This is beyond "having a bad day". I will give you everyone has their moments, but making people walk in backwards is just plain "bitchy", and had nothing to do with being under a microscope. And I classify this as "Less than a person" when you treat people that way. So I will again disagree with you, her behavior is inexcusable. 99.99999999% of all people if watched 24 hours a day would NEVER treat people like that. "I am too important for you to even look at - and if you do I will take away your livelihood - from hard working people making minimum wages and tips." Nothing can excuse such actions. Nothing.

LongBlackScarf · #78 09-23-2005, 08:53 PM

Didn't she do "Fockers" because her old pal Dustin Hoffman was in it, and not only that, Ben Stiller begged her to play his Mom? I must say, that was one dumb-ass movie. I think I snickered once and it was because of the baby, or one of the pets. Dustin was cute and he looked like he was having fun, but "Fockers" was way over-rated IMO.

seeker007nmss · #79 09-23-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LongBlackScarf

The celebrity scape goat. .

I don't think it is a scapegoat. Most of the stories come from inside the industry and are rarely, if ever reported in the media. They come from those who work with her. Unfortunately, the media reports the bad news because good news rarely sells. Did anyone see much about Stevie visiting the troops in the hospital? Not much. Babs is consistant with her stories, and is getting worse. I just refuse to support anyone who acts like that consistantly. I use to like Sting's music, but met him personally and won't support him either. He is another jerk. I can't listen to anyone's music when I know what a piece of work they are. There is no reason for acting that way, especially when the episodes continue and are not isolated. Is it possible to have bad decades?

Serrart · #80 09-23-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LongBlackScarf

Didn't she do "Fockers" because her old pal Dustin Hoffman was in it, and not only that, Ben Stiller begged her to play his Mom? I must say, that was one dumb-ass movie. I think I snickered once and it was because of the baby, or one of the pets. Dustin was cute and he looked like he was having fun, but "Fockers" was way over-rated IMO.

As far as I know, the studio promised to back up one of her projects as director if she did Fockers.

Romy

LongBlackScarf · #81 09-23-2005, 09:11 PM

I don't quite understand how a person can automatically say "so and so is a jerk" having met them one time. Yes, I will agree to co-workers telling stories that do not flatter their bosses. But meeting a celeb for just a minute or two and then summing up their personality by this one encounter seems rather unfair. We all have moods. We're all human. Sometimes celebs do use this status incorrectly. Like Russell Crowe throwing a phone at someone. That's just immature and very nearly "mental" behavior. Refusing an autograph or running from a fan or snubbing a fan is pretty acceptable to me though. Remember when Chris McVie was at Tower Records or someplace similar and she saw fans approaching and she wanted to run? I can't blame her.

seeker007nmss · #82 09-23-2005, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LongBlackScarf

I don't quite understand how a person can automatically say "so and so is a jerk" having met them one time. Yes, I will agree to co-workers telling stories that do not flatter their bosses. But meeting a celeb for just a minute or two and then summing up their personality by this one encounter seems rather unfair. We all have moods. We're all human. Sometimes celebs do use this status incorrectly. Like Russell Crowe throwing a phone at someone. That's just immature and very nearly "mental" behavior. Refusing an autograph or running from a fan or snubbing a fan is pretty acceptable to me though. Remember when Chris McVie was at Tower Records or someplace similar and she saw fans approaching and she wanted to run? I can't blame her.

I met him more than once, and seeing how he treated his people who work for him is pretty telling. And others have had similar stories. I agree that you can't judge people by one or two instances, but when they continue time and time again and form a pattern, well...there you go. I agree with you about judging people and I don't come to these conclusions quickly.

dissention · #83 09-23-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky

If you have your way, you will be one soon. By injection, anyway.

Don't I wish. I'd never get out of bed long enough to be able to enjoy the spoils, dear.

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The celebrity scape goat. It used to be Babs, and then it went to Leona Hellmsley and then shifted to Martha Stewart. Now Martha's making nice-nice so she's off the hook. Who will be next?

I don't need scapegoats, I call them as I see them. Barbra Streisand is a phenomenally gifted singer that I don't happen to care for and she also happens to be a major bitch. She's not alone in that arena, there are plenty of other bitches in her industry and many others who aren't in the entertainment industry. Assholes are everywhere in life, it's just that those who aren't big stars like Babs aren't afforded the celebrity label to help excuse their bad behavior.

Do I have respect for her accomplishments? You bet your ass I do. Do I admire her tenacity? Yup. I feel the same way about Martha Stewart. But that doesn't mean they aren't assholes.

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

suffice it to say, so what if she's a bitch. it doesn't make her any less an artist or person - she's done so much for various charities, stands up for what she believes in and opened doors for female artists..bitch? maybe, aren't we all...

She can donate all she wants to charities, but if she treats continues to treat the people around her like **** on the bottom of her designer shoes, it doesn't really matter. Charitable donations don't excuse assholism.

LongBlackScarf · #84 09-23-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Charitable donations don't excuse assholism.

True. But when it comes down to brass tacks, the benefactors are all I care about. The wallet owner is secondary. I'd even kiss Tom Arnold's toenails if he gave bigtime to charities.

JazmenFlowers · #85 09-23-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

She had the bellhops walk in backwards so they wouldn't look at her when they brought the suitcases in. Someone looked her way and she wanted them fired (The manager just moved him to another area- away from megabitch) This is beyond "having a bad day". I will give you everyone has their moments, but making people walk in backwards is just plain "bitchy", and had nothing to do with being under a microscope. And I classify this as "Less than a person" when you treat people that way. So I will again disagree with you, her behavior is inexcusable. 99.99999999% of all people if watched 24 hours a day would NEVER treat people like that. "I am too important for you to even look at - and if you do I will take away your livelihood - from hard working people making minimum wages and tips." Nothing can excuse such actions. Nothing.

oh puke...don't hate the playa, hate the game

JazmenFlowers · #86 09-23-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

She can donate all she wants to charities, but if she treats continues to treat the people around her like **** on the bottom of her designer shoes, it doesn't really matter. Charitable donations don't excuse assholism.

well you once again win for witty responses, but I'll just disagree

strandinthewind · #87 09-23-2005, 10:37 PM

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well you once again win for witty responses, but I'll just disagree

You think charitable donations give people a right to be a jerk? Or do you just think she is not a jerk? I am not being a jerk, just confused

dissention · #88 09-23-2005, 10:37 PM

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well you once again win for witty responses, but I'll just disagree

Okay. I donated a good deal of money to aid the victims of Katrina. Does that now give me license to force people to walk backwards when they're in my presence because I don't think they're good enough to look at me?

strandinthewind · #89 09-23-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Okay. I donated a good deal of money to aid the victims of Katrina. Does that now give me license to force people to walk backwards when they're in my presence because I don't think they're good enough to look at me?

As a point of order, I do not think most celebrities who do this do it because they feel the people are not good enough to look at them. I think it is, from what my friend who is an attorney who negotiates such things says, that the celebs do not want people gawking at them, bothering them, etc. Personally, I think it is stupid though.

dissention · #90 09-23-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

As a point of order, I do not think most celebrities who do this do it because they feel the people are not good enough to look at them. I think it is, from what my friend who is an attorney who negotiates such things says, that the celebs do not want people gawking at them, bothering them, etc. Personally, I think it is stupid though.

It's dehumanizing and there's no excuse for it, celebrity or not. If you don't want the staff members of the establishment you're patronizing gawking at you or bothering you, kindly tell them that you'd appreciate it if they could be discreet and treat you like they would any other guest. And if one DARES to steal a glance of you, the Supreme Being, you don't try to get them fired. That's despicable.

I would make such a ****ty celebrity because I can't help but be nice to people I meet in public.