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Old 09-17-2005, 11:28 AM
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But there are ways to go about protesting it without looking like a crazy madwoman. The story of the leg will be alot bigger than the issue at hand, that J.Lo hates furry little animals.
How are you going to get attention to your cause by just standing outside an office with a sign? You can't, not these days. People drive by those who picket and they snicker. It takes salt, ingenuity, and outrageousness to get attention. I'd be willing to bet that this incident alone got many, many more hits to the PETA website than any picket line protest would, and if that means people are currently reading about the horrific ways animals are treated and possibly changing their minds about their support of such practices, it's a good thing in my eyes.
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:24 PM
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Well I have even less respect for PETA in this story.

Yes it sucks that HEather lost her leg - why did the confrontation get violent though?

She is half to blame in this IMO. Yes they should have let her re-attach it - but emotions were probably high - and PETA people are totally unpredictable - so who knows what people were thinking.

Why J-LO is to blame in this story is beyond me - she wasn't there - she didn't order then to not let HMM put her leg back on

J-Lo is a fun loving gal - she worked to get to where she is and if she wants to wear fur then I say more power to her!
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"The incident happened on Tuesday (13SEP05) as the former model-turned animal rights activist attempted to deliver a People For The Ethical Treatment Of Animals (PETA) DVD showing creatures being killed for fur to Lopez, following a demonstration at which the 37-year-old pleaded with fans to boycott the superstar's music, movies and clothes because she uses fur in her fashion range Sweetface. "
Boycotting probably won't be neccesary for much longer considering the abysmal quality of her recent fims and records. Didn't her last album Afterbirth pretty much sink without a trace?
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:53 PM
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Who does HM she is that she can "stride" uninvited into a private office with an entourage apparently immediately after publicly insulting the people in their and with the sole intent of causing trouble. Did she think they would welcome her with open arms because she is someone famous' wife? Moreover, why didn't she just leave when told to leave, which could have avoided the tussle that happened after she was told to leave. Thus, according to the facts presented in this article, HM acted in a way that knowingly put her in situation where she could be thrown out and J-Lo is not at fault for what happened.

I do think she should have been allowed to put her leg back on, but I am sure after the tussle people were really not inclined to be nice to her. This is PETA we are talking about and they are known to use violence to get their point across no matter how genuinely noble their point is.
I totally agree. I actually think both extremes of this debate do the issue no good. Neither PETA nor people like Heather Mills (is that her name - I just blanked).
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Old 09-17-2005, 03:49 PM
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J-Lo is a fun loving gal - she worked to get to where she is and if she wants to wear fur then I say more power to her!
That's nice. I wonder how you would enjoy being anally electrocuted and then skinned alive just so that people who "worked to get where they are" can wear you about town.

Just yesterday we were discussing Christianity, so how Christian-like is it to torture and brutalize these creatures? Would Jesus approve?
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:09 PM
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That's nice. I wonder how you would enjoy being anally electrocuted and then skinned alive just so that people who "worked to get where they are" can wear you about town.

Just yesterday we were discussing Christianity, so how Christian-like is it to torture and brutalize these creatures? Would Jesus approve?



That may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard!

God gave us dominion over the animals - believe it or not - animals have been getting killed by man since the dawn of time - for food and for wear.

It's called the "circle of life" as Disney has coined it - we just happen to be at the top of the food chain!

How do you know who supplies J-Lo with her furs? Maybe she gets them from a humane fur dealer

Either way - PETA is such a ridiculous organization - they're radicals plain and simple.

I'm all for animal rights etc- but they go too far.
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:22 PM
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On a lighter note wasn't there a song co-written by Heather's hubby and John Lennon about a furry little animal and a missing leg? Rocky Racoon.
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:22 PM
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That may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard!
I'm glad you think so. Again, how would you enjoy being anally electrocuted and then skinned alive?

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God gave us dominion over the animals - believe it or not - animals have been getting killed by man since the dawn of time - for food and for wear.
Why brutalize innocent animals when you can easily get synthetic fur apparel? That "God gave us animals for wear" argument is bull****.

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It's called the "circle of life" as Disney has coined it - we just happen to be at the top of the food chain!
I didn't know that being at the top of the food chain keeps us from having a conscience about the way we treat other living creatures.

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How do you know who supplies J-Lo with her furs? Maybe she gets them from a humane fur dealer
There is no such thing as a humane dealer. It's an oxymoron. Especially considering that there are no federal regulations whatsoever when it comes to fur farms and how they treat their animals.

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Either way - PETA is such a ridiculous organization - they're radicals plain and simple.

I'm all for animal rights etc- but they go too far.
How can you be for animal rights when you just said that J Ho worked hard to get where she is, therefore she has the right to use fur? What rights are you advocating for the animals that her company brutally slaughters to cover her enormous ass and line her pockets with?
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:33 PM
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That may be the most ridiculous argument I have ever heard!

God gave us dominion over the animals - believe it or not - animals have been getting killed by man since the dawn of time - for food and for wear.

It's called the "circle of life" as Disney has coined it - we just happen to be at the top of the food chain!

How do you know who supplies J-Lo with her furs? Maybe she gets them from a humane fur dealer

Either way - PETA is such a ridiculous organization - they're radicals plain and simple.

I'm all for animal rights etc- but they go too far.
Ok, but these animals are being TORTURED, just so rich socialites/celebrities/morons can wear fur. Does that not evoke any sympathy from you?
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Old 09-17-2005, 04:42 PM
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Whatever - PETA is a group of radicals.

I am not going to defend my views or anything because it's useless around here.
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Whatever - PETA is a group of radicals.

I am not going to defend my views or anything because it's useless around here.
Well, I'm not a PETA member and I don't agree with Heather Mills' tactics at all, and I'm not trying to start an argument with you - I'd just like to ask you something. Alright, I'll take into account your belief that "God gave us dominion over animals" and that humans have used fur as clothing throughout history. BUT, fur is no longer necessary - and for those who want the look and feel of it, synthetic material is available. So my question to you is, why should animals continue to die cruel and violent deaths so they can be made into coats? After all, aren't they also "God's creatures?" Shouldn't they be treated with an amount of respect?
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That is really awful. On the other hand, what a good way to draw attention to your plight.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:11 PM
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I'm not fooled by the rocks that she's got, J-lo is a bitch. She's approaching "washed up" status quicker then she can fire an assistant for not opening her water bottle before giving to her.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:13 PM
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Who does HM she is that she can "stride" uninvited into a private office with an entourage apparently immediately after publicly insulting the people in their and with the sole intent of causing trouble?
That's what fighting against the man is all about.
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Old 09-17-2005, 05:28 PM
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LOL - Here's another reason to dislike J-Lo:

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Freeman's Co-Star Gets Different View
Freeman's 'Unfinished Life' Co-Star Gets Different View of Serious Actor in Scene With Partial Nudity
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Sep. 17, 2005 - Boxers or briefs? Becca Gardner got a backside view of co-star Morgan Freeman for a scene in "An Unfinished Life."

In the new movie directed by Lasse Hallstrom, Freeman plays a ranchman who was mauled by a bear, making him dependent on morphine. Becca's character has to give him an injection.

"I was kind of nervous to see, like, his butt, and I pulled down his pants and he was wearing a thong!" the 15-year-old told The Associated Press in an interview.

"An Unfinished Life" also stars Robert Redford and Jennifer Lopez.

"Everybody else knows her as J.Lo, but I see her as Jennifer," Becca said. "Like they're two different people. She was like a big sister to me. She's so sweet and loving."

When Lopez asked Becca to name her favorite singer, "I told her Stevie Nicks and she said, `I only know one of her songs,' and she tried to sing the song, but she didn't know the words very well, so I had to teach her."

Becca, who was 13 when she won the role, said she was nervous about meeting Redford.

"I'm like, `Hi, Mr. Redford,' and he's like, `You can call me Bob.' I'm like, `OK. You can call me Becca.' I think of him as a stand-in grandpa."
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