9/11 - What About PA and DC?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=4463

New Book Exposes administration's Intelligence Failure
Clinton's Real Legacy

by Eduardo Llull
Posted Jul 13, 2004

Bill Clinton's legacy is destined to become a terrible litany:


In 1993, terrorists detonated a bomb in the parking garage of the World Trade Center killing six Americans and injuring 1,042. Vital information could have been gathered to thwart future attacks. But President Clinton did nothing.


In 1996, terrorists blew up a truck outside the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia killing 19 U.S. servicemen. Clinton did nothing.


In 2000, terrorists attacked the U.S.S. Cole killing 17 Navy seamen. Clinton, amazingly, opted to play it safe while the Bin Ladens of the world continued devising their murderous schemes.


In 1998, terrorists bombed U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224. Clinton responded by bombing Sudan and Afghanistan, blowing up an aspirin factory in the former and a few Pakistani intelligence officers who were equipping Kashmiri guerillas in the latter.

Clinton claimed victory. So did Bin Laden. It wasn't the first or the last time Clinton misled the American people.

Americans want to know why we were caught sleeping on September 11, and rightfully so. But government commissions and our media can't seem to get beyond the partisan maneuvering that would somehow lay blame equally on Bush and Clinton, even though one had eight years to do something about terrorism and the other eight months. And the facts are being obscured for a reason.

Thankfully, David Bossie has produced a work of research that will undoubtedly serve as an indictment of Clinton for years to come. In Intelligence Failure: How Clinton's National Security Policy Set The Stage For 9/11 (WND Books, 2004, $24.99, 272 pp.), Bossie documents the eight years Clinton spent slashing our military and intelligence budgets, and worrying more about protecting his name from scandals than he did protecting us from terror attacks. Bossie shows that this wasn't just a miscalculation by Clinton in a confusing post-Cold War world. He knew that the threat of terror was real but had other priorities.

In 1994, in the wake of the World Trade Center bombing, the Pentagon conducted a study termed "Terror 2000," which warned of the possibility that hijackers would use an airliner as a missile against the Pentagon and possibly the World Trade Center. Clinton refused to let the public hear of it and when distributed to Congress or government agencies, details like the possible use of planes as missiles were omitted. Clinton had a different agenda. That agenda included promoting diversity in the military, FBI and CIA while drastically cutting back the budget for each.

In other words, he was playing politics with our safety.

Clinton's interminable political correctness demoralized the ranks of soldiers, counterterrorism officers and intelligence agents charged with fighting a deadly ring of terror, which had dire consequences. While its budget was cut and its director James Woolsey ostracized, two outside companies were hired to assist in ensuring and celebrating diversity in the CIA. CIA operatives were forced to take sensitivity training and welcome homosexual operatives under The Agency Network of Gay and Lesbian Employees.

The House and Senate intelligence committees reported that the FBI in Phoenix never acted on a memo that mentioned foreigners taking flying lessons at American schools. FBI agent Oliver "Buck" Revell told Bossie: "The agents . . . didn't open a case because of political correctness. They had explicit orders not to racially profile, and if they had opened a case because a bunch of 'Arab students' were taking flying lessons, they would have been shut down immediately and their careers would have been hurt." In fact, agents "didn't have a good atmosphere to work on terrorism cases. The feeling was that no risk was good."

The Clinton Administration shifted antiterrorist responsibilities to the FBI and then refused to secure the necessary funds for the upgrades in equipment and staff the agency desperately needed. Louis Freeh was left without support for the FBI Counterterrorism Division he took the initiative to create.

As someone who was in Manhattan when the Twin Towers went down, watching Rudy Giuliani recently in front of the 9/11 commission seemed strange, if not suspicious. Are these people really trying to get to the bottom of what went wrong? If they are, they ought to pick up a copy of Bossie's book. The evidence all points to one man.

Bill Clinton spent his presidency concerned about leaving a legacy. Unfortunately, he succeeded.
Mr. Llull is a reporter for the Institutional Investor newsletter in New York City.

[strandinthewind]

^^^^^^

You do realize that is filled with lies because Clinton caught and prosecuted many terrorits and in fact stopped an attack planned for the millenium. Conversly, W blatantly ignored warnings from all levels including the head of counter terrorism that Al-Q was planning to attack the US; W instead concentrated solely on Iraq. Moreover, we were talking about W and your incorrect allegation that Clinton left the military in shambles.

I think it has come to this, unless you start citing things based in reality, I am not longer playing this ridiculous game of telling you to go do your homework because you insist on rhetoric instead of facts, which is sad because you seem bright enough to see the difference.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

. . . Clinton's interminable political correctness demoralized the ranks of soldiers, counterterrorism officers and intelligence agents charged with fighting a deadly ring of terror, which had dire consequences. While its budget was cut and its director James Woolsey ostracized, two outside companies were hired to assist in ensuring and celebrating diversity in the CIA. CIA operatives were forced to take sensitivity training and welcome homosexual operatives under The Agency Network of Gay and Lesbian Employees . . . .

Are you seriously citing to an article that has this homophobic cr*p in it. I just think it is hystertical that when many have no point to make, they bring up by innuendo that someone is nice to fags so they must be anti-American. Don't you just find it strange that American soldiers serve daily side by side with Australian and English troops who are allowed to be openly gay. Boy, that sure has hurt our troops hasn't it. But, I suppose it is okay to put up with the foreign fags for now.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

"How 9/11 Happened" - Ann Coulter

We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9/11 happened. The truth is in the time line.

President Carter, Democrat

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage.
Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

President Reagan, Republican

The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

In 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists.
President Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists.

Regan said the United States would not surrender, but Democrats in Congress threw a hissy fit, drafting a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. All seven Democratic presidential candidates called for our troops to be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops -- bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too.

In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a sixty-nine-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Reagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after the "allies" promise them safe passage. The daring plan to intercept the hijackers' flight was conceived by Oliver North -- later crucified by Democrats over Iran-Contra -- and executed by Admiral Frank Kelso, later savaged by Representative Patricia Schroeder for saying hello to his boys at Tailhook. Kelso's boys captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians, who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq.

On April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American.

Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Qaddafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake."

Reagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism.

President Bush I, Moderate Republican

In December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists.

President-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing.

In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq the way liberals like -- with approval from the UN and "the allies." Still, a majority of Democrats opposed the war. Democrats demanded that our troops stop at Baghdad, but then after 9/11, absudly complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam.

President Bill Clinton, Democrat

In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

Clinton did nothing.

In October 1993, eighteen American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The corpse of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News, "The youth...realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."

In November 1995, five Americans were killed and thirty wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extermists.

Clinton did nothing.

In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton did nothing.

Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil. Clinton lobbed some bombs into Iraq, hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.

In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow UN weapons inspectors to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

Clinton did nothing.

In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

On August 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton did nothing.

On August 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severly damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

On December 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."

The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 -- when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Muslim fanatics.

In October 2000, our warship the USS Cole was attacked by Muslim extremists.

Clinton did nothing.

President George Bush, Republican

Bush came into office telling his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, he was "tired of swatting flied" -- he wanted to eliminate al Qaeda.

On September 11, 2001, after Bush had been in office for seven months, three thousand Americans were murdered in a savage terrorist attack on U.S. soil by Muslim extremists.

Since then, Bush has won wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, captured Saddam Hussein, probably killed and certainly immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al Qaeda's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel. Democrats opposed it all -- except their phony support on the war with Afghanistan, which they immediately complained about and said would be a Vietnam quagmire. Now they claim to be outraged that in months before 9/11, Bush did not do everything Democrats opposed doing after 9/11.

What a surprise.

[strandinthewind]

^^^^^

once again, mostly lies and half truthes - go do your homework

For example, we "won" the war in Iraq. Good, let's bring the troops home now. Also, Clinton caught and prosecuted terrorists, yet Ann leaves that fact out - how unsurprising

Do you listen to yourself when you quote this drivel?

and BTW - all this BS anti-Clinton spin is nice, but you have yet to retort my pointing out your misstating that Clinton left the military in shambles

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

^^^^^

once again, mostly lies and half truthes - go do your homework

For example, we "won" the war in Iraq. Good, let's bring the troops home now.

Do you listen to yourself when you quote this drivel?

and BTW - all this spin is nice, but you have yet to retort my pointing oput your misstating that Clinton left the military in shambles

refute it. keep hearing about all these "lies" ms. coulter and other right-wingers tell.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

refute it. keep hearing about all these "lies" ms. coulter and other right-wingers tell.

Now now - first things first -

I am still waiting for you to explain why W was able to have such huge victories with the Clinton military that you and he alleged were so bad.

Also, I refuted some of it already in that Clinton caught and prosecuted terrorists and stopped attacks on this spoil. Moreover, we have not won the war in Iraq by a long shot.

Finally, if you respond with BS right wing rhetoric, I will not respond. I am interested in facts only, which does not include anything Coulter says. I cannot understand why someone as intelligent as you cannot see through that.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

refute it. keep hearing about all these "lies" ms. coulter and other right-wingers tell.

He already did.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Now now - first things first -

I am still waiting for you to explain why W was able to have such huge victories with the Clinton military that you and he alleged were so bad.

Also, I refuted some of it already in that Clinton caught and prosecuted terrorists and stopped attacks on this spoil. Moreover, we have not won the war in Iraq by a long shot.

Ms. Coulter says nothing about winning the war. She states that we have won "wars", as in battles...

Let's hear about all these lies...point them out...prove otherwise...come on.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

He already did.

Don't you love Coulter spins it to Clinton did nothing and W did everything. In truth Clinton caught and prosecuted terrorists in the real legal system and he prevented attacks, though some sadly did occur. Conversly, W has prevented no attacks we know of, failed to capture the person resp. for 9/11, only momentarily weakend Al-Q in Afgan, and mistakenly if not fradulently invaded another country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and has created a breeding ground for terrorists.

Thems the facts!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Don't you love Coulter spins it to Clinton did nothing and W did everything. In truth Clinton caught and prosecuted terrorists in the real legal system and he prevented attacks, though some sadly did occur. Conversly, W has prevented no attacks we know of, failed to capture the person resp. for 9/11, only momentarily weakend Al-Q in Afgan, and mistakenly if not fradulently invaded another country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and has created a breeding ground for terrorists.

Thems the facts!

You said coulter "lies", I'm waiting for you to point out where she lied in the above exceprt from "HTTTAL(IFM)".

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Ms. Coulter says nothing about winning the war. She states that we have won "wars", as in battles...

Let's hear about all these lies...point them out...prove otherwise...come on.

did you really just assert that drivel

She was saying we won wars in Iraq and Afganistan - which means the whole thing not just a battle. But, for your edification:

Main Entry: 1war
Pronunciation: 'wor
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive

Etymology: Middle English werre, from Old North French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse

1 a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : STATE OF WAR b : the art or science of warfare c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war

2 a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end c : VARIANCE, ODDS 3

- war·less /-l&s/ adjective

www.merriamwebster.com
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hmmmmmmmm - sounds like they are not just talking about a battle there. Again, no spin - just facts!

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

You said coulter "lies", I'm waiting for you to point out where she lied in the above exceprt from "HTTTAL(IFM)".

First things first Mr. "I Have No Argument Against Clinton's Military - So Let's Spin It"

BTW - its okay to admit you are wrong - I frequently am, though never with you because you argue in a non-factual manner and facts always win.

Also, I pointed on some of her errors already. That should be enough.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

http://www.house.gov/hunter/01DefenseBudget.htm

http://www.csbaonline.org/4Publicati...on_Of_The_.htm

and the best one...

http://www.defenselink.mil/execsec/adr95/budget_5.html

[ontheEdgeof17]

Ann Coulter is so 2004. Has-been....rather, never-been.


Let's move on to topics that actually deserve bandwith.