They Really Dropped the Ball.. - Page 25

GateandGarden · #**361** 09-06-2005, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

They're now saying to prepare for 40,000 altogether. Who knows how accurate it is, but that's what they're saying.

I really hope that's inaccurate. I remember we had larger numbers for 9/11 initally, truly outrageous numbers, actually. I remember the reality being fewer than we feared. I hope the same is true for this. Not that it obviously isn't too many as it is.

markolas · #**362** 09-06-2005, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

Yep. That sick bitch is a real piece of work.

Somebody should've given her a hysterectomy when she was 12.

dissention · #**363** 09-06-2005, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

If that's not genocide, I don't know what is. Where did that number come from? Oh god...

http://www.t-g.com/story/1116806.html

BombaySapphire3 · #**364** 09-06-2005, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

How can this happen in our country? I can't comprehend it. I don't understand how these beautiful people can be left to die and suffer. Don't worry, because in the end, there will be a reckoning and those responsible for this travesty will pay for it. I loathe to say it, but this is worse than 9/11 because it's our own country who murdered these people by their complete disregard for them. There can be no forgiveness.

God I hope that you are right .

strandinthewind · #**365** 09-06-2005, 10:42 PM

not to mention it is widely rumored that corpses were removed from the Convention Center behind peoples' backs so FEMA could say only like 10 died there.

Its like a river - neverending.

SuzeQuze · #**366** 09-06-2005, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lux

It is another 9/11 and should be treated as such. In fact if I were over there I'd consider it scarier. It's one thing to know that you are a target for foriegn hatred but it's another to know that you are completely exposed by your own government, that in a worst case scenario, they won't be there to help. It's like neglected children who cannot rest in the knowledge of safety provided by their parents.

As for Jason's comments........well there's no excuse good enough. I don't think it's murder but without a doubt manslaughter, which comes with severe repercussions. No stupid f*cking press statement about how personally upset one is will erase what was done, or not done. The ought to be treated like a common man and punished like the common man would be if he was responsible for mass manslaughter.

Someone asked for other stories, I don't have any but I keep looking at this site (for friends, relatives and just anyone who knows of the missing) and wondering: http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/ind...09.html#076307

That was me, thanks for the link. You are right, someone should serve time for this. Thousands of life sentences. If I hear that no one was to blame and it was a systemic problem one more time I'm going to do something very bad to "them". Okay, not really, but I will fantasize about it.

Mad4stevie · #**367** 09-06-2005, 10:53 PM

The AP is now reporting that the New Orleans mayor has now ordered the police to forcibly remove those remaining in New Orleans. At gunpoint, if necessary.

strandinthewind · #**368** 09-06-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

The AP is now reporting that the New Orleans mayor has now ordered the police to forcibly remove those remaining in New Orleans. At gunpoint, if necessary.

Its about time IMO.

Macfanforever · #**369** 09-06-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

They're now saying to prepare for 40,000 altogether. Who knows how accurate it is, but that's what they're saying.

oh my god. I hope not. thats the population of my hometown. what is the total population of New Orleans.

GateandGarden · #**370** 09-06-2005, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

oh my god. I hope not. thats the population of my hometown. what is the total population of New Orleans.

It was about 484, 674 according to www.city-data.com.

strandinthewind · #**371** 09-06-2005, 11:00 PM

Bush, Congress Promise Probes Of Katrina Response

UPDATED: 10:52 pm CDT September 6, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Internal documents show the government's disaster chief waited roughly five hours after Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf Coast before asking Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff to dispatch 1,000 agency employees to the region.

The documents show the volunteers were given two days to arrive.
In a memo to Chertoff, Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said that among duties of these employees was to "convey a positive image" about the government's response for victims.

A Homeland Security Department spokesman said Brown had positioned front-line rescue teams and Coast Guard helicopters before the storm.

The memo aimed to assemble a federal work force to coordinate various operations, the spokesman said.

www.wdsu.com
_________________________________________________

rope for a noose

dissention · #**372** 09-06-2005, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

rope for a noose

If you think that's bad:

http://www.democracynow.org/article....5/09/06/149235

Criticism of the federal government's response is also coming from some unlikely sources including the Pentagon. Lt. Commander Sean Kelly, a Pentagon spokesman for Northern Command, revealed on the BBC that NorthCom was prepared to send in search and rescue helicopters from the USS Bataan almost immediately after the hurricane hit. He said, "We had things ready. The only caveat is: we have to wait until the president authorizes us to do so." That authorization didn't happen for days even though the ship was docked just outside New Orleans. On board the ship had doctors, hospital beds, food and the ability to make up to 100,000 gallons of water a day.

amber · #**373** 09-06-2005, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

If you think that's bad:

http://www.democracynow.org/article....5/09/06/149235

Criticism of the federal government's response is also coming from some unlikely sources including the Pentagon. Lt. Commander Sean Kelly, a Pentagon spokesman for Northern Command, revealed on the BBC that NorthCom was prepared to send in search and rescue helicopters from the USS Bataan almost immediately after the hurricane hit. He said, "We had things ready. The only caveat is: we have to wait until the president authorizes us to do so." That authorization didn't happen for days even though the ship was docked just outside New Orleans. On board the ship had doctors, hospital beds, food and the ability to make up to 100,000 gallons of water a day.

uh oh. that is bad.

dissention · #**374** 09-06-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber

uh oh. that is bad.

More:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,4144825.story

While federal and state emergency planners scramble to get more military relief to Gulf Coast communities stricken by Hurricane Katrina, a massive naval goodwill station has been cruising offshore, underused and waiting for a larger role in the effort.

The USS Bataan, a 844-foot ship designed to dispatch Marines in amphibious assaults, has helicopters, doctors, hospital beds, food and water. It also can make its own water, up to 100,000 gallons a day. And it just happened to be in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina came roaring ashore.

The Bataan rode out the storm and then followed it toward shore, awaiting relief orders. Helicopter pilots flying from its deck were some of the first to begin plucking stranded New Orleans residents.

But now the Bataan's hospital facilities, including six operating rooms and beds for 600 patients, are empty. A good share of its 1,200 sailors could also go ashore to help with the relief effort, but they haven't been asked. The Bataan has been in the stricken region the longest of any military unit, but federal authorities have yet to fully utilize the ship.

SuzeQuze · #**375** 09-06-2005, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

If you think that's bad:

http://www.democracynow.org/article....5/09/06/149235

Criticism of the federal government's response is also coming from some unlikely sources including the Pentagon. Lt. Commander Sean Kelly, a Pentagon spokesman for Northern Command, revealed on the BBC that NorthCom was prepared to send in search and rescue helicopters from the USS Bataan almost immediately after the hurricane hit. He said, "We had things ready. The only caveat is: we have to wait until the president authorizes us to do so." That authorization didn't happen for days even though the ship was docked just outside New Orleans. On board the ship had doctors, hospital beds, food and the ability to make up to 100,000 gallons of water a day.

Bastard. An independent entity should investigate this. We should hire a firm that can be neutral. Is that a pipe dream? Probably. The government shouldn't even touch it, they've proven time and again they can't do anything effectively.