Illume Lyrics... - Page 2

equeen102289 · #16 09-05-2005, 09:07 AM

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In the song lyrics that I'm finding online, they're written as "Nag Champra..."
What I burn is... "Nag Champa..."
Is that what she meant to say? Does she say that?
One time I hear Champa then the next, Champra...

She is singing Champra...Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't Stevie say in an interview or something that she purposely did that because it sounded better? I could have swore I read that somewhere...

danax6 · #17 09-05-2005, 11:30 AM

She always says AY-way instead of AH-way.

David · #18 09-05-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly

My opinion on the Nag Champra thing is that she purposely does it to avoid trademark issues.

I think it's just an unwitting mispronunciation on her part. If you search "nag champra" on the Web, you get dozens & dozens of links, so Stevie is part of a sizable community of "Nag Champa" mispronouncers.

As far as the trademark thing goes, I don't know ... it just seems doubtful to me that she would "work around" violating the Lanham Act by mispronouncing the trademark name. That seems so . . . you know, ridiculous. Actually, I'm not even really sure that "Nag Champra" is protected under U.S. trademark law because apparently the stuff is imported from India & there isn't a single distribution outlet. You can find hundreds of little companies online that import the junk & sell it on their own Web sites. Do they all have written contracts with the India company that manufactures it? Is there even a single company that does manufacture it? Who owns the trademark? I haven't bothered to look into it because I'm not much more interested than this. All I found out was that "champa" is a flower -- so "champa" or "champa flower" is not protected as a trademark.

Think of all the songs that refer to product names -- one song comes to mind immediately is Zevon's "Poor Poor Pitiful Me," which Lindsey even played & sang on! Stevie once referred to Warren as the songwriter who could "write about a Waring blender & get away with it," & she certainly wasn't referring to the Lanham Act.

No, I think she just mispronounces it. She isn't a language person, Stevie isn't. Nosirree.

wolfontherun · #19 09-05-2005, 03:30 PM

Angel "and you try to go through the phone baby" "you try hard but you nver get through yay"

Stevie_Buck · #20 09-05-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

She always says AY-way instead of AH-way.

"And then one day it just almost goes AY-way..."

SapphireSister · #21 09-05-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly

Oh, but he DID take her "car" and run. :>)

My opinion on the Nag Champra thing is that she purposely does it to avoid trademark issues.

I don't believe it's a trademark issue. When this whole Nag Champa thing came up when SYW first came out I called the store where Stevie is known to buy incense and things of the sort here is Los Angeles and they confirmed Nag Champa is NOT a brand name and has nothing to do with the trademark. It's a scent like lavendar and many there are many different brands that make Nag Champa. She mispronounced it whether it was intentional or not.

Stevie_Buck · #22 09-05-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by David

No, I think she just mispronounces it. She isn't a language person, Stevie isn't. Nosirree.

Didn't she go to college for like... communications or something? lol
She must have been absent a lot...

Exactly when did she start drugs?

Dealer · #23 09-05-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie_Buck

Oh, Stevie...

Thanks for clearin' that up for me. I was confused. lol
This is coming from the woman who made up an "Emmiline..."

Sheesh.

Yeah, not to waver off topic, and I'm sure it's been discussed b4, but
I've always wondered what / where the hell Emmiline was.
When I moved into a new house a few years ago, I named a stray cat,
that sort of moved in, Emmiline because it always stood out to me.

ontheEdgeof17 · #24 09-05-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dealer

Yeah, not to waver off topic, and I'm sure it's been discussed b4, but
I've always wondered what / where the hell Emmiline was.
When I moved into a new house a few years ago, I named a stray cat,
that sort of moved in, Emmiline because it always stood out to me.

Sandy Stewart wrote the song and created a demo. They real lyrics were "you held the line"....Stevie thought she said "Emmiline".

Dealer · #25 09-05-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Sandy Stewart wrote the song and created a demo. They real lyrics were "you held the line"....Stevie thought she said "Emmiline".

God love her......

I knew someone would know.....Thanks Curtis...

StevieNicksEO17 · #26 09-05-2005, 07:32 PM

I totally noticed the whole "H" pronoucing trouble thing when I was listening to an accapella version of Long Way to Go.

"Can I be of any hhhhelp to you baby" I don't know how to type it, but it sounds like she's trying to cough up a hairball when she says some of her H's.

Kelly · #27 09-06-2005, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SapphireSister

I don't believe it's a trademark issue. When this whole Nag Champa thing came up when SYW first came out I called the store where Stevie is known to buy incense and things of the sort here is Los Angeles and they confirmed Nag Champa is NOT a brand name and has nothing to do with the trademark. It's a scent like lavendar and many there are many different brands that make Nag Champa. She mispronounced it whether it was intentional or not.

I think the mispronunciation had to be intentional considering she pronounces it correctly in interviews. I guess the question is why.
You know, I realized my trademark theory makes no sense anyway. The opening lines to the song are
"Illume..says the candle that I burn".
Illume candles are a brand...I think?

Phoenix · #28 09-06-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelly

I think the mispronunciation had to be intentional considering she pronounces it correctly in interviews. I guess the question is why.
You know, I realized my trademark theory makes no sense anyway. The opening lines to the song are
"Illume..says the candle that I burn".
Illume candles are a brand...I think?

Good question,! What the hell is an ILLUME anyway!?

Rumour0323 · #29 09-06-2005, 10:57 AM

AAAnnnnddd.....She pronounces Illume, as E-lu-may??? But then again...we wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan....she speaks like she wants to.

SapphireSister · #30 09-06-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelly

I think the mispronunciation had to be intentional considering she pronounces it correctly in interviews. I guess the question is why.

Maybe she realized after the album had been recorded and she was doing interviews that she was pronouncing it wrong or someone corrected her but by that time it was too late to change?