Katrina - Page 34

gldstwmn · #**496** 09-01-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But, even if they could not drive, they should have gotten on the bus and gone to the dome. That they did not has stalled the rescue attempts of the elderly and disabled who truly could not leave their homes in time. As for the jobs - the entire city was shut down as of Sunday - few if any businesses were open. So, I do not think that was a factor for more than .01% of the people who just thought they could ride it out in their houses.

Yeah. It's all their fault. Happy now?

hayley · #**497** 09-01-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I wan't talking about him.

Well, I WAS.

If I was there with a kid, they would be my first priority. Not worrying about my job or my house or my stuff. I understand perfectly well that some people had no way of getting out. I have FRIENDS down there who could not get out. It's the people that could, and didn't, that infuriate me. The ones that put their lives, their children's lives, and now countless other people's lives at risk when they didn't have to.

strandinthewind · #**498** 09-01-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Yeah. It's all their fault. Happy now?

Are you seriously arguing that these able bodied people helped in any way by staying home? I mean you are sounding as if you are saying they did the right thing, when they most certainly did not and many of them and others are dead because of it. Don't you think if 10,000 or more of these able bodied people had obeyed the evacuation orders and gone to the dome, the evacuation would have run more smoothly and the NG and others could have concentrated more on the people not able bodied and possibly be done by now. That is just stunningly apparent to me.

Note - I am not saying they deserve death or not to be rescued. I am just noting that they are one of the problems NOLA is facing and that problem could easily have been avoided but for their behavior.

I do not understand why you are taking offense at this.

gldstwmn · #**499** 09-01-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hayley

Well, I WAS.

If I was there with a kid, they would be my first priority. Not worrying about my job or my house or my stuff. I understand perfectly well that some people had no way of getting out. I have FRIENDS down there who could not get out. It's the people that could, and didn't, that infuriate me. The ones that put their lives, their children's lives, and now countless other people's lives at risk when they didn't have to.

I hear you.

SuzeQuze · #**500** 09-01-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

If I wasn't certain we'd both die down there, I'd go with you.

Die? Isn't anyone mobilizing to do this? Cindy will probably do it.

gldstwmn · #**501** 09-01-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Are you seriously arguing that these able bodied people helped in any way by staying home?

Are the G forces getting to you yet? You're spinning mighty quick.

gldstwmn · #**502** 09-01-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Die? Isn't anyone mobilizing to do this? Cindy will probably do it.

Are we talking about NOLA?

estranged4life · #**503** 09-01-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by macfanken

I'm waiting for him to call the hurricane a "Freedom Hater"!!

dont give the Texas Shrub any ideas, ok? Maybe he will declare war on the hurricanes next

SuzeQuze · #**504** 09-01-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Are we talking about NOLA?

Oh, no no. I am talking about that stupid parade.

gldstwmn · #**505** 09-01-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

2000 and 2004

I thought we were talking about 41?

gldstwmn · #**506** 09-01-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Oh, no no. I am talking about that stupid parade.

Oh, that thing.

gldstwmn · #**507** 09-01-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar

Hasn't Bush denied help at this point? I thought I heard him saying some thing like, "We'll handle this on our own," or something earlier today.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No, you're right.

Livia · #**508** 09-01-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think it is okay for him to say something like "this is the largest mobilization of XYZ since 9/11." That is on topic. But, he will not just do that. He will raise 9/11 in an attempt to boost his favor amongst the nation, which is typical W/Rove BS.

Interestingly, if they are randomly firing guns in a city where you cannot really tell where the shots are coming from and have no apparent law and order - how is he going to chopper into NOLA. My bet is he flies over NOLA out of gunshot range and then makes a speech at the airport, which is relatively abandoned.

Exactly! I just said to a co-worker, "No wonder Bush hasn't visited NOLA yet, everyone there is armed, dangerous, and pissed off!"

strandinthewind · #**509** 09-01-2005, 04:21 PM

3,000 have been evacuated to Lafayette, where my parents live. There have been several car jackings, rapes, robberies, etc. - all within blocks of the dome there. Martial law may be declared.

strandinthewind · #**510** 09-01-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I thought we were talking about 41?

I am sorry - I though we were talking about W