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at NO TIME did I infer that this was a product for America. YOU did. My posts since then have been: a) responding to your name calling b) reiterating that it was YOU who brought up America c) responding to the reference to Lorena Bobbitt, which was a different topic again, you painted yourself into a corner. |
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you brought up an AMERICAN legal argument. I responded to your post. prior to that, my posts were in response to the content of the article which was about Africa. the content of my posts change as the thread evolves. so, scratch that for you. |
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I have to say that I really don't think this condom would have a dibilitating effect on the attacker like you think it would. It certainly wouldn't be as effective as pepper spray in the eyes, or a knee to the testicles. I think that it's unrealistic to think the guy is just going to get up and run away. It is one of many scenarios that could happen. Can we take this point by point again for a second to get back on track? The argument here is would this device be effective in preventing a rape from occuring. 1. Rape is not a crime that is thought to be detered based on punishment. Proof of this can be seen in the fact that incidents of rape increased even in the years where capital punishment was active in South Africa. Furthermore, the rapist would have to be aware that his victim was wearing one of these condoms to be detered. 2. Once you dismiss the condoms ability to deter the rape, even if the condom is present, the penetration is still going to happen. You aren't preventing the rape, but rather stoping it while it was in process. (which is not a bad thing, but again, the idea I think should be to prevent the rape from happening at all). 3. The limitations as far as age are definately an issue here also. Babies are being raped, small children. I doubt this device will do anything for them, but even if it were something that could be utilized by children, I seriously doubt that someone sick enough to rape a babie would stop and think about the anti-rape condom. Also, something that I think has been overlooked mostly, but I think was mentioned in an article Amber posted was the spread of Aids/HIV. Do you really want to have a device that's going to no doubt cause bleeding of someone who potentially has aids while he is in the vaginal cavity? And please don't suggest that he would pull out so fast from the pain that blood transfer wouldn't be an issue. I don't think any woman here would be willing to play russian roulette with that scenario. If we are talking about the prevention of rape, again I would have to say a device that stopped penetration worn by the woman would be something I'd suggest. Do I think it's fair that it would be the womans responsibility, absolutely not, but if I had a daughter I would rather her wear something like a device that prevented access to her genitals, than something that will only work once she is already being violated. I think the anti-rape condom is more of a punishment than a deterent, and I think that it is really a just punishment too and fitting of the crime, but we're talking about prevention here and not punishment. I would have no problem if they had some type of iron lung like device that they put on rapists penises as punishment.
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as for my "reacting" I am not sure what you are talking about. Obviously I havent taken a rusty knife to anyone or assassinated anyone though I may think it an emminently laudable idea.........I think Im showing great restraint. |
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![]() In the end, rape is a horrible thing that boild down more often that it should to a he said she said thing. Are we always to believe the woman in those limited instances, like a violent rape, where the lack of consent is less clear? Last edited by strandinthewind; 09-01-2005 at 03:44 PM.. |
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