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Old 07-29-2005, 04:10 PM
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Am I going crazy here or something? No one has said Stevie owes us another album and that she doesn't deserve to live her life in peace or whatever.
It's her reasoning that it's not worth recording another album because it won't sell in big numbers that's disappointing and frustrating.
I'm sure I can survive without another solo album...
Wow, it's like hitting my head against the wall, over and over.
I guess it's the displeasure at the (alleged) reason she is not recording, and then the judgment on that. I guess people think the judgment on her (alleged) reason for not recording implies that you think she may owe her fans different reasoning, and therefore, an album? Because it logically follows that if she did reason different, she would record an album. But, no, you didn't say specifically that she owes us anything. You just said you didn't like her reasoning for not recording.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:12 PM
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Her retirement plan is her back catalog and the royalties generated from them. Stevie Nicks will never be hurting for money at this point.
Of course not... but that's only if she spends her "retirement plan/nest egg" on her living expenses. If she spends it on buying herself out of lucrative multi-album record deal, then she will be hurting for money (comparatively speaking) at some point.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:13 PM
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Take an aspirin and chill. That wall is gonna give you a huge headache.

We get it, but who in their right mind would continue to record and tour if they didn't get paid enough to make it worthwile if they had other things they wanted to do? I think that's her bottom line. She wants to slow down, do Vegas, maybe still record when she feels like it, but not if she has to work to pay the piper or pay off a record label. No advance, no music. I wouldn't do it either if I were in her shoes.
She can try to buy out her Warners contract and sign to a place like Sanctuary where she will get paid enough. They'd welcome her with open arms and she'd make more from album sales than she has in years.

As for doing other things, ha. Rhiannon movie? Never gonna happen. A book? She's been hocking her "book" for years. If she really wanted to do any of this stuff, we'd have seen something by now. If her albums don't sell, what makes ya think any of that stuff would?
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:14 PM
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Take an aspirin and chill. That wall is gonna give you a huge headache.

We get it, but who in their right mind would continue to record and tour if they didn't get paid enough to make it worthwile if they had other things they wanted to do? I think that's her bottom line. She wants to slow down, do Vegas, maybe still record when she feels like it, but not if she has to work to pay the piper or pay off a record label. No advance, no music. I wouldn't do it either if I were in her shoes.

Well I understand why she'd want to slow down, completely.

Not all albums have to be expensive affairs. How bout an acoustic album or a live record?
I guess it's hard for an old dog to learn new tricks though...
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:17 PM
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Robert Plant
Emmylou Harris
Billy Idol
Dolly Parton
Elvis Costello
Cyndi Lauper
Joan Baez
Melissa Etheridge
Bob Dylan (Or did Love and Theft sell millions? I honestly don't know.)
Bonnie Raitt
Aimee Mann
David Bowie
Heart
Indigo Girls

The list goes on.
That's a good list
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:20 PM
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Of course not... but that's only if she spends her "retirement plan/nest egg" on her living expenses. If she spends it on buying herself out of lucrative multi-album record deal, then she will be hurting for money (comparatively speaking) at some point.
I can't imagine buying out her contract would cost much more than, say, Aimee Mann or someone else independently releasing their own albums. But Stevie has never been known to make smart business decisions, none of the Macsters really have.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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I guess it's the displeasure at the (alleged) reason she is not recording, and then the judgment on that. I guess people think the judgment on her (alleged) reason for not recording implies that you think she may owe her fans different reasoning, and therefore, an album? Because it logically follows that if she did reason different, she would record an album. But, no, you didn't say specifically that she owes us anything. You just said you didn't like her reasoning for not recording.
I honestly thought after Street Angel we wouldn't get another album from her. She did seem to disappear for a long time. I'm just happy with the stuff we've had since.
I'm surprised though that she says she doesn't want to record another album, when just before that she says that she thinks her songwriting keeps getting better.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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Wow, I'm really motified at the attitude I'm getting from this thread. And you people call yourselves fans? Why not chain her to a piano and make her sing to you until her fingers bleed? Yeah, because she obviously owes you.

First of all, take a conversation you had with a friend last year about any random thing. Now imagine if thousands of people took every last word of that conversation as gosple and held you to it. Pretty horrid stuff, huh? This is exactly what you are doing. When you do interviews all the time they become like random conversation. Sometimes you say things off the cuff that you are feeling at that moment, but by the next day you feel totally different. We do this all the time but people usually don't write it down and come after us for it later. Cut her some slack, kids.

And you know, being that you enjoy her music does not give you the right to tell her how to live her life or manage her carreer. How many times did someone say "she should..." or "why doesn't she..." in this thread? I have an answer, because she is Stevie Nicks and you're not! How's that? She chose a carreer doing something she loves, something so few of us get to do. Along with the artistic integrity of writing intensely personal songs, there is also tons of things to deal with because this is also your job. Every failure means that you don't have the clout to do the next project you want to do. Every setback means that the next time you want to support an artist or do a show or put out a CD you may find yourself with dozens of record exec vampires telling you what to write and how to portray yourself. It's not about the money, it's about the industry. And if you don't work in the music business, do us all a favor and stop talking about it like you do. There is so much more involved than walking into a nightclub with a band and putting on a show.

I hope to God she doesn't read this "fan forum". I'm so dissappointed in those of you who spend your time trashing her. I thought this was a place for her admirers. If you like her then let her do what she wants, enjoy what she gives us. If she handed you all her recordings on a silver platter or if she threw you crumbs every few years, it would be up to her. And that is what is fair. She does not owe you anymore than you owe her.

Damn, I was in a good mood today and now I'm all crabby. :P
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:24 PM
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I went back and reread the article. It said that Stevie is unsure about releasing another solo album and she doesn't know what to do. So, I am now going to take this in stride. It's not like she said she is definately not releasing a solo album. She is just unsure at this point.

We can look forward to the possibility of the recording of the Gold Dust show with the Melbourne Symphony next year.

And who knows, the Rhiannon project could come to fruition. It does seem like it is Stevie's "path" if you will to finally make this project a reality.

Or these remarks are just to stir up some debate as to the horrible state that radio is in today and the whole music industry in general. Who knows?
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:26 PM
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It saddens me that she seems to measure how good a record is with commercial success. I'm starting to think she doesn't like Street Angel, not because it's her poorest album, but because it's her poorest selling.
Who is feeding this crap to her anyway? Stevie is never gonna be big with your average 12 year old again, she should just deal with it.
Her reaction seems to be, I'll become a nostalgia act, touring my old songs into the ground, rather than continuing to make new and artistic music. It's bull****. It makes me so sad she's essentially choosing money (which she'll no doubt make as a live act) over the artistic option (which is making music she loves no matter how well it sells).
Stevie, what has happened to you?
Her fears are part of her nature, no? It's her talent, she has the right to address it in the way she wants, for me. We'll see. I'm sure after all those years in music business and all the up and downs she had, we'd be all steady as rocks in our decisions. So why aren't we all rockstars?

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Old 07-29-2005, 04:27 PM
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She's given her entire her life to her music and fans.
I must have missed the boat on that. I actually had to pay a lot of money all these years for all the Stevie Nicks albums & magazines & memorabilia I wanted, & I also had to pay for all the Stevie Nicks shows I saw.

But now you're saying that some fans (how many?) got all that as a gift? How cool is that!! But I wonder how they managed it, because in my case, buying Stevie's work all my life cost me thousands of dollars.
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:28 PM
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:31 PM
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I must have missed the boat on that. I actually had to pay a lot of money all these years for all the Stevie Nicks albums & magazines & memorabilia I wanted, & I also had to pay for all the Stevie Nicks shows I saw.

But now you're saying that some fans (how many?) got all that as a gift? How cool is that!! But I wonder how they managed it, because in my case, buying Stevie's work all my life cost me thousands of dollars.
I missed out on those freebies too.

But I hope it makes you feel better to know David that your dedication has kept Stevie in platforms and chiffon.
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What's all this talk about Stevie wanting to retire?? She's only 57, not 87, and there are plenty of older artists who are still plugging away and some who are still moving tons of albums. Ask Jimmy Buffett and James Taylor how their last albums sold. Hello, this is her life! She doesn't have a husband or children. We are her children. Her songs are her children. And writing and performing songs are the things that she loves more than anything. And ask anyone who has been a fan of Stevie's for the last 20 years or so, she truly is near the top of her game TODAY.

If anything, I think the hint at performing with a symphony in Australia is perhaps a way for her to pave the way into another musical direction. The cynical side of me thinks she is trying to mine the same territory as Carly Simon (who is 60 and just had her highest debuting CD this week with an album of standards), Rod Stewart and even Joni Mitchell by recording an album of standards. But the hopeful side of me believes that Stevie is just the quintessential rawk chick, and if it don't rock hard, she ain't messin' with no album of standards. Sure she has made some unfortunate decisions in the past, but you can never ever say that she was crass enough to willingly do something to make more money or to sell more recordings. She probably has caved into record label pressure a time or two... or fifty. But her overall body of work suggests that she has a singular vision and she has generally stuck to her guns.

I hope that whatever crisis of confidence she is going through right now passes quickly enough. We loves ya, Stevie. Chin up, grrrrl!
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