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Old 07-24-2005, 05:38 PM
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One time I waited on a Carolina Panther and his wife, they sat upstairs and did "family style" which required a lot more service at the table... so after running up and down the stairs all night, their bill came to $63.00 ... they left me ONE FREAKING DOLLAR for a tip-- bringing the total to $64.
Oh, I remember that angry post work phone call from you. To be left a dollar is a huge slap in the face. Seriously.
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Old 07-24-2005, 05:48 PM
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The public is also much ruder than ever. Manners are all but gone. It's just sad anymore.
The same can be said for the service inudstry too though

Not necessarily waiters/waitresses - but I can't even remember the last time I went to a store and was treated nice by the people working there. It INFURIATES me...there is no call to be rude to everyone even if your job sucks...I know I used to work retail

The worst was this girl at Kohls - she didn't say ANYTHING to me the entire transaction - I said hello - nothing. Then she rung up my towels - instead of reaching for the bathmat she sighed and motioned it...I was like, "what" she sighed again and made a motion like I should move the bathmat closer to her...so I did....then I gave her my card - she swiped it and THREW it back at me...THREW IT!!! All this and she never said ONE WORD!!! GOod thing those people don't work for tips....when all was done I said, "GOsh -thanks for your fast and friendly service" really sarcastically ugh...dumb bitch.

Um anyway - I've been lucky to not see that trend go into the restaurant business....if so then God help servers..because the one instance where a tip suffers is if I'm treated rudely....But even then - I've never NOT tipped.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:05 PM
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The worst was this girl at Kohls - she didn't say ANYTHING to me the entire transaction - I said hello - nothing. Then she rung up my towels - instead of reaching for the bathmat she sighed and motioned it...I was like, "what" she sighed again and made a motion like I should move the bathmat closer to her...so I did....then I gave her my card - she swiped it and THREW it back at me...THREW IT!!! All this and she never said ONE WORD!!! GOod thing those people don't work for tips....when all was done I said, "GOsh -thanks for your fast and friendly service" really sarcastically ugh...dumb bitch.

Um anyway - I've been lucky to not see that trend go into the restaurant business....if so then God help servers..because the one instance where a tip suffers is if I'm treated rudely....But even then - I've never NOT tipped.
"dumb bitch." That really made me giggle for some reason. Seriously, though, I know what you mean. I can't stand rudeness.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:57 PM
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:03 PM
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There actually are several unions for service workers. Is California a right to work state?
no- california is an awesome state to work in. state minimum wage is over $6/ hr and san fran has it's own minimum wage of $8 i think. here in AZ we don't have a state minimum wage so we go by federal which is $5.15 BUT federal allows employers to take a $3.02 tip credit for employees who receive tips... therefore, i make $2.13/ hr... in a 40 hr workweek my paycheck is less than $90 but then they take out my taxes so if i made $600 in tips that week, i owe $120 in taxes, so my paycheck is gone, and at the end of the year i owe the government $30 for that week. it's totally retarded. the cost of living has gone up so much since 1998 but servers still make the same wage in my state.
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:06 PM
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Im not sure I understand "right to work" but as far as I know, there is no union for waitressess/waiters...
ya know what I hate? when you do your taxes (if you wait tables) you automatically have to plug in a percentage of your wages as tips even if you didnt actually make that much! it SUCKS!
I used to be a waitress, its hard thankless work and Im glad Im not doing it anymore. There are some good customers, but overall, I hated it,
oh yeah... or it really sucks when you have $100 in tips on credit card slips but you tip out $30 to the bar, busser and runner... BUT the government sees that you made $100 on those credit cards so you get taxed on the whole amount- not the $70 that you actually got to keep... that's why cash tips are best
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:13 PM
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The public is also much ruder than ever. Manners are all but gone. It's just sad anymore.
that is so true. i can't tell you how many times i approach a table and say "hi guys how are you doing today?" and without even looking up at me they grunt "iced tea" "coke" "bud light" etc. a few times i have even replied "oh, ok and HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?" i try to start out friendly and chit chat a bit but people sometimes simply ignore me and just start making demands. i know i shouldn't let it bug me but it does- i hate rudeness.
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:24 PM
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Seriously folks, think about it next time you go out to eat and decide not to leave a tip. As long as you got your food and the server wasn't an ass to you? Leave them something. That's the money I lived off of-- I never SAW a paycheck.

Sorry, but people who don't tip make me absolutely livid.
totally

in the whole chain of people that it takes to have your evening at a restaurant, you have a hostess, a server, a cook, an expo, a food runner, and a busser (and sometimes a bartender) every single one of those people is guaranteed payment for what they do except for the server... so if they f*ck up, they don't care... but the server gets blamed and punished monetarily if the expo puts the wrong sauce on your meal, or the cook doesn't cook your meat how your ordered it, or if the hostess put you near a smoking section and it bothered you, or if the food runner drops your kid's burger at the table and you have to wait for another one to be made.

it doesn't matter that your server found you a better table far from the smoke and moved you, or that the server took your food back and had it fixed quickly and apologized profusely and tried to buy you a dessert... the server still gets the shaft. no server will TRY to give you bad service. no server will purposely dick you around and ignore your needs. there are a hundred other factors in what is going wrong with your evening. people need to evaluate the situation and not blame the one person who really CARES and NEEDS you to have a good time. people who stiff servers are in for a karma check...
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:36 PM
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Hmmm...perhaps servers should organize and pick a day to go on strike, .
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:15 PM
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oh yeah... or it really sucks when you have $100 in tips on credit card slips but you tip out $30 to the bar, busser and runner... BUT the government sees that you made $100 on those credit cards so you get taxed on the whole amount- not the $70 that you actually got to keep... that's why cash tips are best

Wow! I totally didn't know that!! I will start cash tipping from now on
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:32 PM
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I'll bite. What's an "expo"?
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:33 PM
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no- california is an awesome state to work in. state minimum wage is over $6/ hr and san fran has it's own minimum wage of $8 i think. here in AZ we don't have a state minimum wage so we go by federal which is $5.15 BUT federal allows employers to take a $3.02 tip credit for employees who receive tips... therefore, i make $2.13/ hr... in a 40 hr workweek my paycheck is less than $90 but then they take out my taxes so if i made $600 in tips that week, i owe $120 in taxes, so my paycheck is gone, and at the end of the year i owe the government $30 for that week. it's totally retarded. the cost of living has gone up so much since 1998 but servers still make the same wage in my state.
I'm sorry Jessica. I thought you lived in CA. So you work down by Bank One Ballpark? I like the park. Is it still the only major league baseball park with a swimming pool in it?
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:40 PM
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no- california is an awesome state to work in. state minimum wage is over $6/ hr and san fran has it's own minimum wage of $8 i think. here in AZ we don't have a state minimum wage so we go by federal which is $5.15 BUT federal allows employers to take a $3.02 tip credit for employees who receive tips... therefore, i make $2.13/ hr... in a 40 hr workweek my paycheck is less than $90 but then they take out my taxes so if i made $600 in tips that week, i owe $120 in taxes, so my paycheck is gone, and at the end of the year i owe the government $30 for that week. it's totally retarded. the cost of living has gone up so much since 1998 but servers still make the same wage in my state.
Arizona is a right to work state if I remember correctly. Anyway, I was a waitress in the 80's when dear President Reagan decided to come after us, or have the IRS come after us because he thought people in our industry didn't report enough of our earnings to the IRS. I was a 24 year old single mother at the time. And I made...$2.13 an hour. I worked at that place for about 5 years and the company ended up getting audited for the IRS. So one day I get this 30 page bill in the mail in the IRS saying I owe them thousands of dollars. Then they turned around and told the state, who I got a similar letter from. I think we settled but it took me a good 5-6 years to pay them. Back then, we also had health benefits. Those slowly went away too.
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I'll bite. What's an "expo"?
I'm guessing she means an "expediter." Being someone that "dresses" the food and makes sure it's ready to go before it leaves the kitchen.
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expeditor

they stand at the food window where the cooks put out the plates of food and make sure that burgers get lettuce and tomato, soup gets a sprinkle of cheese and cracker packets on the side, club sandwich gets a pickle spear on the side, ribs get a side of beans, salad gets salad dressing... all that kind of stuff... they also take the tickets the server wrote special instructions on (no lettuce, side of mayo, extra ranch etc.) and follow the instructions. they they give the plates to a food runner who then takes it to the table... then a server should check with the table to see that everything is ok, and if not, the server has to fix it... but the expo and the runner still got paid.

for the most part, expos are awesome, and on their toes always... but every once in a while you get some that don't care and send out beef nachos to someone who ordered chicken ... reading tickets is a huge deal and a lot of expos just assume the cook made it correctly and send it out.
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