Stevie and Lindsey's Big Fight

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by darklinensuit

Soooo not gonna happen.

- Jake

Why not? I'm sure she listened to Fleetwood Mac all the time when she was a baby. She's probably a HUUUUGE fan

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Why not? I'm sure she listened to Fleetwood Mac all the time when she was a baby. She's probably a HUUUUGE fan

You're right, I jumped the gun. I hear she's in line for Sharon's job.

- Jake

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by darklinensuit

You're right, I jumped the gun. I hear she's in line for Sharon's job.

- Jake

Sharon's or Jana's? I'm sure she's also the next in line to receive a moon necklace as well

[tynan88]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

Sharon's or Jana's? I'm sure she's also the next in line to receive a moon necklace as well

She can have Lindsey's one from the divorce settlement

I am sure that the Lindsey would get the impression the two got along well...because the one thing in common is that they don't want to hurt Lindsey....Steve; because she loves him, and Kristen; she needs him for money.

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by tynan88

Steve; because she loves him,

Was there some operation?

- Jake

[tynan88]

I'm sure there a Transvestite Steve out there that loves Lindsey!

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by tynan88

I'm sure there a Transvestite Steve out there that loves Lindsey!

Dancing somewhere to the Out Of The Girdle album, no doubt.

- Jake

[tynan88]

Originally Posted by darklinensuit

Dancing somewhere to the Out Of The Girdle album, no doubt.

- Jake

Then there's the transvestite Stevie fan listening to C-ck A Little

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by tynan88

Then there's the transvestite Stevie fan listening to C-ck A Little

I'd like to not buy a vowel, please.

- Jake

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

I'm sure (Kristen) listened to Fleetwood Mac all the time when she was a baby.

I don't know why, but that gave me a huge laugh!
Thanks!

[glitter_fades]

Originally Posted by AliP

Here you go again!! I know you're not a big fan of the quotes, but you are always pulling these miraculous statements out of nowhere and then justifying them by saying that you "heard" this stuff and somehow we are supposed to believe this is any more reliable than using quotes??? Sorry, but at least the quotes present hard evidence, not just hearsay and things collected in the minds of fans over the years. So since you said that you like to judge Stevie or Lindsey by "their own" quotes, how about this quote from Lindsey. I don't see anything in there about him saying he "did not want to go on tour." In fact what I read, from Lindsey, is that he would be willing to go on tour if it came down to that.


Fleetwood Mac: Off the Record - 1987
(about touring for Tango) As far as the touring goes, I mean we joke about it alot, as far as barracading the doors. I mean, if it really gets down to the point where it really looks like the thing we should do and if its going to be a disapointment to a lot of people, I would certainly be willing to go out and do that."

Yeah, they probably had more than a sneaking suspicion that he didn't want to tour, but he still agreed to tour and then pulled out at the last minute. That was a rotten thing to do. They had every reason to be mad. He should have just bucked up and went on tour and then quit afterwards, no strings attached. And yakity yak and blabity blah. Now, I'm beating the dead horse.

Nothing personal, but this is getting kind of tiresome. If fans don't care what other fan's impressions are, I wonder why we bother to participate in message boards? It seems everyone just wants to argue about bits of disjointed history pieced together from online quotes to support their own preconceived ideas on these board topics. What's the point of that? The available online information is totally incomplete. It's without context and the perspective of hearing things said at the time and place it happened. Piecing bits of information in the correct sequence is also impossible to do after the fact. So much is missing from the record. You don't have to take my word on anything. I don't notice many others taking issue with David's view even though it's very similar to mine about Lindsey saying early in the Tango process he wasn't touring. Did he quote all these sources you want me to cite? Just to be clear on another issue, I never said Lindsey said Stevie called him about redoing BN. Somebody else said that and they used the Cream article as a source. I said Stevie called him after he left and asked if he wanted her to quit too. She also asked about doing BN again. I didn't attribute that info as coming from Lindsey. Stevie is the one I heard say it. Was it on TV? Was it in the newspaper? Hell if I remember but I remember she said it and you don't have to believe me. You don't have to believe Stevie once said she wasn't at her own wedding to Kim Anderson either. She told a local reporter here that she got married by proxy. Just because it's not in some online archives doesn't mean the information is invalid. By the same token, just because you can pull up a quote doesn't mean the information is correct or gives a true picture of an issue or incident. Did Stevie just say on the radio yesterday that BATB was her set closer before she wrote HAEWEFY? Did she also say BATB was written in 1984? If you dig out her quote from the transcript and post it here, does that mean her information is correct?

Years from now if a transcripts isn't around and nobody has it recorded (like that could ever happen today. ) people won't believe Stevie said she closed her shows with BATB before she wrote HAEWAFY, that BATB was written in 1984, or that months ago on Jim Ladd she said she'd be touring through the end of the year. Yesterday, months later, she said it's over on Aug 6 in Vegas. She also said something yesterday that gave me the impression she never planned to do this Gold Dust tour on her own. I noticed that as quite odd compared to what she said on Ladd in April. I won't give an exact quote from yesterday. I don't feel it's necessary. You can go get quotes if you like. I don't need them. I'm giving you my impression of what she said. You can take it or leave it. Stevie said something about Don touring 10 days but going out herself afterwards wasn't what she planned on. What about the hype back in April? Am I the only one who caught this little twist? It may be meaningless but I found it interesting. People reading years from now could get two different views of her committment to this solo tour. My impression is she never wanted to do it and I felt that was true even before I heard what she said yesterday. Others can strongly disagree becasue her performances seem so amazing. How could she not want to be doing this tour? Well, it's just my impression she didn't really want to, but I didn't make it up from thin air. I did hear her say something significant yesterday. I also heard things before the tour that formed my belief. If I can't show you a quote then my impressions are not valid? Oh well.

ON EDIT: This new thread was posted after I wrote my post above. Seems my impression of Stevie's solo tour was valid and she's already rewriting history. Don asked her to tour? That's not what I heard but who cares? Stevie says it now so it's an undisputed fact! Glad that's been cleared up. http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=21101

[lagringader&r]

Originally Posted by glitter_fades

Nothing personal, but this is getting kind of tiresome. If fans don't care what other fan's impressions are, I wonder why we bother to participate in message boards? It seems everyone just wants to argue about bits of disjointed history pieced together from online quotes to support their own preconceived ideas on these board topics. What's the point of that? The available online information is totally incomplete. It's without context and the perspective of hearing things said at the time and place it happened. Piecing bits of information in the correct sequence is also impossible to do after the fact. So much is missing from the record. You don't have to take my word on anything. I don't notice many others taking issue with David's view even though it's very similar to mine about Lindsey saying early in the Tango process he wasn't touring. Did he quote all these sources you want me to cite? Just to be clear on another issue, I never said Lindsey said Stevie called him about redoing BN. Somebody else said that and they used the Cream article as a source. I said Stevie called him after he left and asked if he wanted her to quit too. She also asked about doing BN again. I didn't attribute that info as coming from Lindsey. Stevie is the one I heard say it. Was it on TV? Was it in the newspaper? Hell if I remember but I remember she said it and you don't have to believe me. You don't have to believe Stevie once said she wasn't at her own wedding to Kim Anderson either. She told a local reporter here that she got married by proxy. Just because it's not in some online archives doesn't mean the information is invalid. By the same token, just because you can pull up a quote doesn't mean the information is correct or gives a true picture of an issue or incident. Did Stevie just say on the radio yesterday that BATB was her set closer before she wrote HAEWEFY? Did she also say BATB was written in 1984? If you dig out her quote from the transcript and post it here, does that mean her information is correct?

Years from now if a transcripts isn't around and nobody has it recorded (like that could ever happen today. ) people won't believe Stevie said she closed her shows with BATB before she wrote HAEWAFY, that BATB was written in 1984, or that months ago on Jim Ladd she said she'd be touring through the end of the year. Yesterday, months later, she said it's over on Aug 6 in Vegas. She also said something yesterday that gave me the impression she never planned to do this Gold Dust tour on her own. I noticed that as quite odd compared to what she said on Ladd in April. I won't give an exact quote from yesterday. I don't feel it's necessary. You can go get quotes if you like. I don't need them. I'm giving you my impression of what she said. You can take it or leave it. Stevie said something about Don touring 10 days but going out herself afterwards wasn't what she planned on. What about the hype back in April? Am I the only one who caught this little twist? It may be meaningless but I found it interesting. People reading years from now could get two different views of her committment to this solo tour. My impression is she never wanted to do it and I felt that was true even before I heard what she said yesterday. Others can strongly disagree becasue her performances seem so amazing. How could she not want to be doing this tour? Well, it's just my impression she didn't really want to, but I didn't make it up from thin air. I did hear her say something significant yesterday. I also heard things before the tour that formed my belief. If I can't show you a quote then my impressions are not valid? Oh well.

ON EDIT: This new thread was posted after I wrote my post above. Seems my impression of Stevie's solo tour was valid and she's already rewriting history. Don asked her to tour? That's not what I heard but who cares? Stevie says it now so it's an undisputed fact! Glad that's been cleared up. http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=21101

I believe you. (And I'm not just saying that coz you're a really nice person ) I also think it's cool that you were around back then to read newspaper articles while it was actually happening. You're right that things probably get misconstrued on the internet.

Speaking of misconstrued, for the record..I did NOT say Lindsey beat the **** out of his girlfriend. Someone else did and I said something about it in my post. I would appreciate if someone is going to talk about me as if I'm not here, that you don't tell me what I've made up my mind about. You don't know me, my mind or what I've decided. I'll post those things on my own. Thanks. I'm just going to say that I don't know what's true and I'm only going on Mick's book, what John said about it getting violent, Stevie's audio, Lindsey not denying much except the slapping, Lindsey's girlfriend saying what she did and the other girlfriend not being allowed to talk. But who knows. Maybe they're all lying or their memories are bad. I really don't know.

[ELIUD]

Originally Posted by vermicious knid

(about Lindsey chasing Stevie through Chris's "maze-like" house and out the door) That's awesome! If the Fleetwood Mac story were a movie like Gone With the Wind, this would be akin to scenes like Scarlett falling down the stairs, or getting attacked at the shantytown. I love it.

'Gone with the Wind'? It reminds me more of Jack Nicholson chasing that kid around with an axe in 'The Shining'.

[realcowgirl]

Originally Posted by lagringader&r

Thanks for posting the links to those. I wonder what her being on Klonopin at the time had anything to do with the fight or what she said, though. I don't think Stevie was so out of it that she made any of it up or embellished or whatever. jbrownsjr said there were alleged concerns about Lindsey respecting women and I'm really curious to know what those are, other than what I've already heard about the Tusk kick? No disrespect meant, but for those that think Stevie should be with Lindsey, ugh. I don't think so.

I just came across this thread, and my curiosity is getting the better of me, but the links have expired. Can anyone repost them, please?

[BlackWidow]

Originally Posted by lagringader&r

I found some quotes from Stevie about a fight between her and Lindsey. I think this was 87. If anyone has the audio to this, can you link it or post it because I can't seem to? This is pretty scary. Woah. I think if anyone thought she never regretted smiling at him..well. I know he kicked her on stage during one of the Tusk shows but is he a violent person? Is she? This blew me away. (Oh and if he had killed her, her family and the band would have to get in line behind me!)

Because of that guilt I have always had about not leaving Fleetwood Mac, flew off of the couch and across the room to seriously attack him. And I did. I mean, and I’m not real scary but I can be fairly ferocious. And I grabbed him, you know, which almost got me killed.

He ended up chasing me all the way out of Christine’s maze like house and down the street and then back up the street and then he threw me against the car and I screamed horrible obscenities at him and uh I thought he was going to kill me and I think he probably thought he was going to kill me, too. And um, I said to him “you know if the rest of the..if the rest of the people in the band don’t get you, my family will. My dad and my brother will kill you.�

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