Gypsy83...What???

[paleshadow]

Originally Posted by xxxmx

paleshadow: it wasn't intended to portray ALL stevie-fans in the same light, but i really think you need to see the movie. and as for if we're supposed to like her character or not, it's more like the movie sucks than i don't like the character.

and diamondsnake: it's not about how cute/uncute her boobs are, it's the scene in which they are 'unleashed' that is disturbing.

The movie never interested me, so that's why I haven't seen it. I woulnd't go see or rent a movie just because it has a Stevie reference or song in it. I can just come here and read about it from other Ledgies Thanks for your opinion though.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Oh Christopher
Why do you have to be so offensive sometimes?
I take it back that you are a cool dude, that was not nice.

These are make believe characters, what's the big deal if I say that?

I think there needed to be a more grounded character to balance out the more eccentric ones to show that not all Stevie fans are socially unstable. Maybe I wouldn't be so down on the movie if Sara Rue hadn't disrespected Stevie on national TV.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by xxxmx

and diamondsnake: it's not about how cute/uncute her boobs are, it's the scene in which they are 'unleashed' that is disturbing.

Clearly the scene was not meant to be sensual or sexy but I just found it to be so unnecessary to be that 'in your face'.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by paleshadow

I haven't seen the movie so I don't know how it is, but I don't think it's meant to be a descriptive of Stevie's entire fan base, as much as a story of one particular fan. Anyone who goes to Stevie concerts knows that there ARE fans out there who are accentric, or over the top, or whatever you want to call it "fat goths who can't function in the real world" is a little harsh. I mean, the thing that is so great about Stevie fans is that there are so many different kinds, and yet they all seem to be cool and accepting of eachother for the most part. I saw Stevie once and there was a guy in full drag behind me who was singing Bombay Sapphires louder than Stevie (and not well, either). It seems like people who dislike the movie may have had the idea that it would be more about Stevie. I mean, just because a character in a movie is a Stevie fan, does that mean the character is supposed to be likeable because we are also fans? Maybe we weren't supposed to like her?

See, I think for a successful movie you should be able to find something to like about the main character. Maybe my comments seemed a little harsh but I just can't stand Sara Rue after what she said about Stevie.

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I read in a review that the movie was modeled after a fan, Susan, who's screen name on AOL was Gypsy83 or Gypsy63 or something. I believe it is Susan Childs, who runs the Destiny Galleria, there is an article on Burnish.net that says:

"Did many Stevie Nicks fans see Gypsy 83 during its film festival days? Oh yeah. The film was kind of inspired by a couple of the hardest-core Stevie fans. Susan Childs makes her living designing Stevie Nicks clothing and selling it on the Internet; other fans donated clothing and served as extras. Pretty much every Stevie Nicks [fan] I talked to has loved the movie. Of course, they wish there was more Stevie music, but the essence of Stevie still shines through. "

I must say, I was also quite disappointed in the film, as most of you say you were. I don't see how this reviewer sees the "essence of Stevie" in that mess, but what do I know?

Ah well..
Hope everyone is having a great weekend...

Barbara

[GarboSpeaks!]

Some posts seem anti-gay. I KNOW no one means it so I'm not trying to stir the sh** pot here. The deal is that Todd is gay, and makes movies that focus more on a gay lifestyle. Though the focus of the film is on Sara Rue's charachter, IMO, Todd was really trying to portray the film thru her friends eyes. The scene w/ the guy in the bathroom is what I am guessing you are all calling disgusting. Personally, I thought it was heartbreaking. Merley a scratch on the surface of that sort of incident happening a dozen times a day around the world.

Just because Todd is a fan (but perhaps not like "us" as someone said) doesn't mean that he has to make a film titled Gypsy83 about girls twirling on hillsides in faery dust. Each artist has his or her vision. I am guessing that no one has seen his movie "Edge of 17." Beware: It's not about a girl running down the stairs or down a hallway, and breaking a china doll when she sees her brother.

I don't think the film is "OMFG fantastic." but I didn't think it sucked behind either. I am a fan of Todd, simply because he's been able to see his vision come to light, and plus, he's a real nice man. Anyone that would ever care to email him would get a very generous response almost immediately. We've had a few emails back and forth and the guy is real nice. Loves to hear about people's adventures concert hopping. Sara Rue on the other hand can kiss my backside. "Can't act her way out if a wet paper bag" never had more meaning than after having seen G83. As an independent film actress, she can get away w/ her less than admirable acting skills. Big screen, or big break? Forget about it.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Whatever Christopher. Stevie at times could also be described as "a fat goth who can't function in the real world" you know, and we know how much you hate anyone criticising her

Calm down. The bottom line is the movie sucked. At least in my opinion it did.

Why do people have to get so touchy over everything. We are discussing a movie!!! Not real people. And I'm really sorry if I don't sugar coat my posts... I just "play it the way I feel it" to quote my precious Stevie.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by GarboSpeaks!

Some posts seem anti-gay. I KNOW no one means it so I'm not trying to stir the sh** pot here. The deal is that Todd is gay, and makes movies that focus more on a gay lifestyle. Though the focus of the film is on Sara Rue's charachter, IMO, Todd was really trying to portray the film thru her friends eyes. The scene w/ the guy in the bathroom is what I am guessing you are all calling disgusting. Personally, I thought it was heartbreaking. Merley a scratch on the surface of that sort of incident happening a dozen times a day around the world.

Just because Todd is a fan (but perhaps not like "us" as someone said) doesn't mean that he has to make a film titled Gypsy83 about girls twirling on hillsides in faery dust. Each artist has his or her vision. I am guessing that no one has seen his movie "Edge of 17." Beware: It's not about a girl running down the stairs or down a hallway, and breaking a china doll when she sees her brother.

I don't think the film is "OMFG fantastic." but I didn't think it sucked behind either. I am a fan of Todd, simply because he's been able to see his vision come to light, and plus, he's a real nice man. Anyone that would ever care to email him would get a very generous response almost immediately. We've had a few emails back and forth and the guy is real nice. Loves to hear about people's adventures concert hopping. Sara Rue on the other hand can kiss my backside. "Can't act her way out if a wet paper bag" never had more meaning than after having seen G83. As an independent film actress, she can get away w/ her less than admirable acting skills. Big screen, or big break? Forget about it.

I thought the boy's storyline was much better then the girls. And his story/scenes weren't disgusting. I was refering to Gypsy lying on the bathroom floor actually. It just seems unsanitary! Sorry, I have OCD.

[GarboSpeaks!]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

I thought the boy's storyline was much better then the girls. And his story/scenes weren't disgusting. I was refering to Gypsy lying on the bathroom floor actually. It just seems unsanitary! Sorry, I have OCD.

LMFAO! And that is OK, cause Oh my lord is that the truth! Yuck! Like when everyone was having a fit bout Brittny Spears walking into a rest area bathroom barefoot. Didn't want to eat for a week! lmao

[GypsyBoy87]

as a film maker, the writing, and actuall FILM part of it are pretty good, esp to be so independent, i honestly believe i would have liked the movie alot more if wasnt a fan of stevie at all, i believe the guy who wrote it came up with a story, and then desided, "hmm..my characted needs to be obbsessed with some singer...since stevie has this NOTS thing, lets use her"! , the thing i like least is the way they make stevie fans look, that was a wrong move, but it did help with the whole, trying to be something ur not kind of theme that the movie was focused on ( esp with the boy)

[Serrart]

Originally Posted by GarboSpeaks!

Some posts seem anti-gay. I KNOW no one means it so I'm not trying to stir the sh** pot here. The deal is that Todd is gay, and makes movies that focus more on a gay lifestyle. Though the focus of the film is on Sara Rue's charachter, IMO, Todd was really trying to portray the film thru her friends eyes. The scene w/ the guy in the bathroom is what I am guessing you are all calling disgusting. Personally, I thought it was heartbreaking. Merley a scratch on the surface of that sort of incident happening a dozen times a day around the world.

Just because Todd is a fan (but perhaps not like "us" as someone said) doesn't mean that he has to make a film titled Gypsy83 about girls twirling on hillsides in faery dust. Each artist has his or her vision. I am guessing that no one has seen his movie "Edge of 17." Beware: It's not about a girl running down the stairs or down a hallway, and breaking a china doll when she sees her brother.

I don't think the film is "OMFG fantastic." but I didn't think it sucked behind either. I am a fan of Todd, simply because he's been able to see his vision come to light, and plus, he's a real nice man. Anyone that would ever care to email him would get a very generous response almost immediately. We've had a few emails back and forth and the guy is real nice. Loves to hear about people's adventures concert hopping. Sara Rue on the other hand can kiss my backside. "Can't act her way out if a wet paper bag" never had more meaning than after having seen G83. As an independent film actress, she can get away w/ her less than admirable acting skills. Big screen, or big break? Forget about it.

I haven't seen Gypsy 83, it wasn't distributed here and I'm not sure to be interested enough to order it, but I watched Edge Of Seventeen and found his script quite superficial even if enjoyable enough.

Romy

[xxxmx]

Originally Posted by GarboSpeaks!

Some posts seem anti-gay.

i think that kett's story was fabulously told in the movie, and that his 'scene' was done very well.

it's sara's story that i can't wrap my mind around, her 'scene' seemed poorly directed and could have been a lot more... sanitary? to say the least. (ha, good one diamondsnake)...

as for the nudity, that was completely part of the story. she was so uncomfortable in her own skin, and as soon as she uncovers a bit of herself (quite literally) she gets the rug pulled out from under her feet. though i would have been much happier if there was a rug under her in the movie

[darklinensuit]

IMO this movie was charmless. I am inclined to suspect that the creator is a true fan & a nice guy, but the film did not reach me on any level.

- Jake

[Sahara]

I must say I was initially disappointed with the movie, but now I've seen it a couple of times ...

At first I was disappointed because of the appalling lack of Stevie Nicks. A single image, I think, and a single song which isn't my favourite anyway. And I must say, Sara Rue's version of 'Talk To Me' didn't really wow me.

Perhaps it was naive of me to expect a movie full of twirling and tambourines and characters sitting around discussing Stevie. Which would have made me happy, but not much good for a plot ... ^,^ I suppose I didn't think of what the plot might be ...
The one exception to that twirling and tambourine thing would be the Doing the Unstuck scene -- which I loved! I liked the openinig sequence, and the scene in the graveyard / church as well for that reason -- its Stevie-ishness! The first act with the two main characters just being themselves with a few Stevie references was what I thought the whole movie might be.

I'm not anti-gay, but as far as a movie about Stevie Nicks fans goes ... there was far too much of it. That was the director's choice, sure, but I felt uncomfortable watching most of it, which isn't a reaction most directors want an audience to feel. Likewise, sex scenes slowed the whole thing down, really didn't think it was necessary to be, as has been said, that 'in your face' about it.

Set design was amazing [especially Clive's bedroom, I really want one!], and costume design the same, if a little inconsistent.

Those of you with the DVD -- the deleted scene of Kett Turton dancing to The Cure in the white room with the black cloth? Loved it, any other opinions?

As a movie it was decent, but as a tribute to Stevie Nicks it wasn't what I expected at all. Disappointed overall.

[Rickypt]

I just saw this movie last week and really liked it. I didn't see it as a movie about Stevie or her fans.

To me, it was a movie about people who don't fit in trying to find a place where they can be more comfortable with themselves. I also thought it was a coming of age movie centered around the boy, as well as exploring the unique relationship that can exist between gay men and straight women.

I thought both sex scenes were very well done and quite authentic. Sara did a great job showing vulnerability and awkwardness. Doing it on the bathroom floor is key to the movie--she's finally with a guy she likes and who shows interest in her, and they are forced to do it there because it's the only opportunity. He's about to bail and doing it there is probably part of this fantasy he was trying to live out before going back home. Once again, she is stepped on and made to feel that she is less than others.

I think the reason there weren't any Stevie songs is because she (or her management) didn't allow them.

And yeah, Sahara, I loved that deleted scene.