Karl Rove - Page 5

gldstwmn · #61 07-06-2005, 02:23 PM

BREAKING: Miller sent to jail!

strandinthewind · #62 07-06-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

BREAKING: Miller sent to jail!

I know - I just saw that

Oh well, the rule of law, which has been failrly clear for years now, must prevail. Again, the person she is protecting is a coward for allowing her to serve jail time for them. A true Christian and any man worth his salt would step forward and face atonement for their sins rather than let a woman go to jail to keep them out of it. So much for morality.

strandinthewind · #63 07-06-2005, 02:30 PM

"a direct personal communication from his source freeing him from his commitment to keep the source's identity secret."

something is afoot here.

gldstwmn · #64 07-06-2005, 02:43 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/reporters_contempt

Judge Orders Jail for N.Y. Times Reporter

WASHINGTON - A federal judge on Wednesday jailed New York Times reporter Judith Miller for refusing to divulge her source to a grand jury investigating the Bush administration's leak of an undercover CIA operative's name.

"There is still a realistic possibility that confinement might cause her to testify," U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan said.

Miller stood up, hugged her lawyer and was escorted from the courtroom.

Earlier, Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, in an about-face, told Hogan that he would now cooperate with a federal prosecutor's investigation into the leak of the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame because his source gave him specific authority to discuss their conversation. "I am prepared to testify. I will comply" with the court's order, Cooper said.

Cooper took the podium in the court and told the judge, "Last night I hugged my son goodbye and told him it might be a long time before I see him again."

"I went to bed ready to accept the sanctions" for not testifying, Cooper said. But he told the judge that not long before his early afternoon appearance, he had received "in somewhat dramatic fashion" a direct personal communication from his source freeing him from his commitment to keep the source's identity secret.

As for Miller, unless she decides to talk, she will be held until the grand jury ends its work in October. The judge speculated that Miller's confinement might cause her source to give her a more specific waiver of confidentiality, as did Cooper's.

Cooper, talking to reporters afterward, called it "a sad time."

"My heart goes out to Judy. I told her as she left the court to stay strong," Cooper added. "I think this clearly points out the need for some kind of a national shield law. There is no federal shield law and that is why we find ourselves here today."

"Judy Miller made a commitment to her source and she's standing by it," New York Times executive editor Bill Keller told reporters.

"Judy Miller has not been accused of a crime or convicted of a crime," Abrams said. "She has been held in civil contempt of court."

gldstwmn · #65 07-06-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

"a direct personal communication from his source freeing him from his commitment to keep the source's identity secret."

something is afoot here.

More than one source? Miller has one source, Cooper another? This is getting more intriguing by the minute.

DavidMn · #66 07-06-2005, 02:49 PM

I'm not surprised in the least

Sugar · #67 07-06-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

"a direct personal communication from his source freeing him from his commitment to keep the source's identity secret."

something is afoot here.

That's what I thought, too. Who is this going to be?

gldstwmn · #68 07-06-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

I don't know, I know that her reporting in Iraq though is not directly related to her outing the CIA agent, if she did that. Man this is confusing.

Miller is one of a handful of journalists who the Plame story got shopped to. Another is Chris Matthews. Now, it's hard to know why Miller is so important to the grand jury because they conduct their proceedings in secret but ostensibly she was called as a witness to a crime and refuses to divulge who told her that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. She has been ordered by the court to do so. She refused, so she was sentenced to jail.

BombaySapphire3 · #69 07-06-2005, 09:04 PM

I hope Miller does not become the Susan McDougal of this scandal.Spill the beans Judy these slimeballs aren't worth a second of jail time.

strandinthewind · #70 07-06-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Miller is one of a handful of journalists who the Plame story got shopped to. Another is Chris Matthews. Now, it's hard to know why Miller is so important to the grand jury because they conduct their proceedings in secret but ostensibly she was called as a witness to a crime and refuses to divulge who told her that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. She has been ordered by the court to do so. She refused, so she was sentenced to jail.

I am unsure if Miller has that much to add or is she is truly standing on principle - though I do not agree with her, she is a respected journalist

So, it is difficult to tell with her and she certainly has nothing to gain by going to jail. But, who knows, maybe she is W's "Susan McDougal"

For the life of me, I will never understand how these men can let anyone suffer for them much less a woman. Cowards!!

strandinthewind · #71 07-06-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I hope Miller does not become the Susan McDougal of this scandal.Spill the beans Judy these slimeballs aren't worth a second of jail time.

LOL - we posted the same thing at the same time - ahhhhh great minds think alike

gldstwmn · #72 07-06-2005, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I am unsure if Miller has that much to add or is she is truly standing on principle - though I do not agree with her, she is a respected journalist

So, it is difficult to tell with her and she certainly has nothing to gain by going to jail. But, who knows, maybe she is W's "Susan McDougal"

For the life of me, I will never understand how these men can let anyone suffer for them much less a woman. Cowards!!

Her source supposedly released her. She still won't talk.
As for the respected journalist part, well, read what I posted earlier.

gldstwmn · #73 07-07-2005, 09:36 AM

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1000974740

'NY Times' Says Source Who Gave Matt Cooper Waiver Was Karl Rove

estranged4life · #74 07-10-2005, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Newsweek is reporting that Rove may be implicated in the Vlaerie Plame leak

-- which of course Rove's lawyers deny and Rove will not publicly comment on but he did give grand jury testimony. This is unfolding into something that could be huge.

CBS evening news just metioned exactly that, That Rove is the leak.

irishgrl · #75 07-10-2005, 05:36 PM

Well, now: if Rove is the leak and he gave permission to one, why not the other?
and what will happen to HIM now I wonder? tar and feathers seem to paltry...
I wonder, if he goes down, who he will drag with him? Gawd, this is getting juicy