Random Thoughts/Express Yourself...Part II

[amber]

Originally Posted by dreamongypsydkm

Why are you continuing this? Do you really care about some clicky web board group?

Besides your own, that is. I've only noticed two other people on this board as cliquey as you guys, actually. It usually doesn't bother me, cause I don't like to talk about bono, or led zeppelin, or whatever, but it is a clique, nonetheless.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by dreamongypsydkm

I don't think it's fair to mock one's suicidal thoughts.
You're going too far.

You know what? You're right and I'm sorry I wrote that. It was uncalled for.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

And unlike some of the people in this thread, I can take it and I don't see it as anything other than part of the fun of participating on a message board.

And if I didn't think you could take it, I'd never do it.
I always get major guilt when I think I've hurt someone.

[Johnny Stew]

With Josh's apology, hopefully this will end here, because it definitely took an unkind turn and I definitely do not condone that.

Open dialogues are a healthy thing... cruelty is not.

[lagringader&r]

I started the original Random Thoughts/Express Yourself thread and I said that teasing was allowed but no judging or attacking each other. This thread is supposed to be a good thing.

[dreamongypsydkm]

Originally Posted by amber

Besides your own, that is. I've only noticed two other people on this board as cliquey as you guys, actually. It usually doesn't bother me, cause I don't like to talk about bono, or led zeppelin, or whatever, but it is a clique, nonetheless.

Look, we're not a clique. I know for a fact we both want people to join us in whatever silly nonsense we're posting about. We're both active on this board in other facets, other than our dialogues. We're not a clique, we're friends.

[dreamongypsydkm]

Originally Posted by Lux

F*ck you. You can have a stupid thread for your random thoughts on how life sucks and you want to mock me like that. F*ck you and your pathetic existence.

Lux, don't worry. I'm sure he just let his anger get the best of him as we all do. He doesn't know you, so please don't let this bother you.
I know you and you don't deserve that.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dreamongypsydkm

Look, we're not a clique. I know for a fact we both want people to join us in whatever silly nonsense we're posting about. We're both active on this board in other facets, other than our dialogues. We're not a clique, we're friends.

well, great, but if you make fun of people, and stuff, they may not like it. Just saying. And I know you are both active. I used to like lux. I really have no opinion about you.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dreamongypsydkm

Lux, don't worry. I'm sure he just let his anger get the best of him as we all do. He doesn't know you, so please don't let this bother you.
I know you and you don't deserve that.

Yes, and don't worry, Diss, I'm sure when lux said this

Originally Posted by lux

Look enough. You guys get your own places to adore each other, we had our turn. Before turning it against our intellect, you might take a look and see that we are quite entitled to create our own in-jokes aswell. I don't claim to be great, but you certainly do. So what is it that you do when you're not making those 24.91 posts per day? Give us a freakin turn you snob, you guys don't own this place.

she was just letting her anger get the best of her. She doesn't know you, and you don't deserve that.

See how that works?

[amber]

Originally Posted by Lux

You equate mocking in regards to frequent posting with mocking in regards to suicide? Meh f*ck you too then. You're like the 'popular group' at school who never grew up. You need a dose of reality.

No, I equate you saying rude and insulting things with anyone else saying rude and insulting things. Just because you are suicidal doesn't excuse you from the flow of the fact that you are rude and insulting, as well. Sorry. And, see, you did it again. I may need a dose of reality, but not the kind you are dishing out. You know, the kind who thinks they are superior to everyone, and that being rude is okay, as long as you have more problems than the next person. No thanks. I'd rather have a dose of reality from a nice person, who sees good in people, and doesn't feel the need to mock and make fun of everyone.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Lux

Just 'cause I'm suicidal? I don't believe I even mentioned anything about myself. I didnt' dare because I could be bleeding from my head but so long as I'm not part of the in-group nobody sees a need to include. And supposing I am, it doesn't excuse me from anything and I didn't use it as an excuse anywhere. I didn't even raise the freakin subject but while we're on it, you're such a welcoming group here who really understands reality so I'll be sure to bring it up in the future.

You're getting your dose of reality, that being that your little group members aren't the only ones here and you hold no claim to this place. You can't handle it and so it turns into this. We don't mock in hatred, we just alerted to the reality. You'll note we weren't excluded from this mocking, just simply exposing how others feel around this place. But apparently that's a free pass to judge out intellect and our personal problems which I think if you'll take a second glancing, we haven't even dared mention around you lot.

I don't have a "group", first of all, so I don't know what you are talking about. And you brought up suicide, right here, when you said "You equate mocking in regards to frequent posting with mocking in regards to suicide?". As for the rest, I don't know what you are talking about. You were mocking, so... I mean, go ahead and justify the mocking if you want, it's still mocking. And I don't think anyone here ever thought they were the only ones here. And, actually, I think people here are very welcoming, if you are nice, and try to talk to them as if they had human intelligence, instead of like they are all morons. But, heck, maybe that's just me. Maybe I am wrong, and people like to be talked to as if they are morons, and mocked, too! I don't think anyone here minds someone else talking, at all. I'm sorry you feel "excluded" or whatever, but sometimes it takes a little effort, or, I don't know, decorum, or maybe talking about something others can talk about in order to be "included". Personally, I don't really care if you only talk to one person, ever. As long as it's not super rude, or making fun of other people I like. But, whatever, if you want to feel martyred, go ahead. I really don't know what you are talking about. However, I do know some people, including myself, who used to like you a lot, but no longer do, because you, yourself, have alienated them through your words and actions. Have a good evening.

[lagringader&r]

As long as we're on this subject, I have a few things to say. I know it won't matter one way or the other what I say because I'm not one of the group. I don't have anything insightful, witty or super-intelligent to say but I do post a lot (Amber, you told me this is what makes people pay attention and respond). I posted that my dad is dying and it's conflicting for me because he split when I was a kid and made it clear he never wanted a kid. A few people said something. In this thread, only one even noticed that I hadn't posted for a few days and cared where I was. Mari, thank you! The other topic was complaints about being single. The responses to that topic (which is essentially much more important than my father losing his life) got pages and pages of responses, sympathy and backslapping. Not that not having a date Friday night isn't serious business. It is. But, don't say this board isn't a popularity contest because it is. I'm meaningless and therefore my father's desertion and death is, too. I don't have a hard time calling it for what it is. I didn't post what I did because I wanted attention. This is real to me. I traveled for 16 hours total (in layovers and change of planes) to get from LA to Brasil so I could see my dad one last time. I'm dealing with years of conflict over being abandoned and trying desperately to love my dad now while I can. It's real to me. I would have never said anything about the pages and pages of crying over being single and dateless among the *popular* group, while my dad's death was almost completely ignored, but as long as we're on the subject of cliques.. If this wasn't proof, I don't know what is. I'll get over it. It's a message board and my dad will pass whether or not I have your sympathies or concern, right? I'm just calling it as I see it. You can ignore me or dislike me even more now and use this as justification. I started this thread (the original one, part 1) for people to open up about their happiness, their pain, their whatever and I'm glad everyone's having a good time with it. But, the relevance of someone's life does depend on popularity here and I admit that I was pretty shocked that my dad's death was worth one post, while being dateless was worth pages. I don't have anything witty, insightful or super-intelligent to say about that.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Lux

I know it's difficult to comprehend but take a step back and you might see things a little clearer. Click on the page before and you'll note a random accusation of suicidal rantings coming from myself. That is rather ironic. A thread for you lot to all comfort each other about the latest problems and I who knows not to join in any kind of discussion being accused or ranting on about suicide. Does seem a bit strange don't you think? What's additionally strange is the manner my non-existent suicidal ranting is being treated in light of the comforting manner something such as someone's lack of a date is treated. I know where I'll be turning next time I feel the need to jump off a cliff.

I don't get it. I don't want to read back, this thread was making me, uh, not want to read it. It was too ooey gooey for me. So, you weren't talking about suicide? Or you were? And, I wasn't really talking about your suicidal tendencies, or lack thereof, I was talking about your rudeness, mocking, and condescension. And if you weren't ranting about suicide, how could anyone be treating it in any way at all? Unless you're referring to the way your past suicidal rants are being treated, now. I really have no comment on that. And it seems to me, in general, that only certain people, or certain kinds of people, get sympathy on this board, anyway.

[amber]

Originally Posted by lagringader&r

As long as we're on this subject, I have a few things to say. I know it won't matter one way or the other what I say because I'm not one of the group. I don't have anything insightful, witty or super-intelligent to say but I do post a lot (Amber, you told me this is what makes people pay attention and respond). I posted that my dad is dying and it's conflicting for me because he split when I was a kid and made it clear he never wanted a kid. A few people said something. In this thread, only one even noticed that I hadn't posted for a few days and cared where I was. Mari, thank you! The other topic was complaints about being single. The responses to that topic (which is essentially much more important than my father losing his life) got pages and pages of responses, sympathy and backslapping. Not that not having a date Friday night isn't serious business. It is. But, don't say this board isn't a popularity contest because it is. I'm meaningless and therefore my father's desertion and death is, too. I don't have a hard time calling it for what it is. I didn't post what I did because I wanted attention. This is real to me. I traveled for 16 hours total (in layovers and change of planes) to get from LA to Brasil so I could see my dad one last time. I'm dealing with years of conflict over being abandoned and trying desperately to love my dad now while I can. It's real to me. I would have never said anything about the pages and pages of crying over being single and dateless among the *popular* group, while my dad's death was almost completely ignored, but as long as we're on the subject of cliques.. If this wasn't proof, I don't know what is. I'll get over it. It's a message board and my dad will pass whether or not I have your sympathies or concern, right? I'm just calling it as I see it. You can ignore me or dislike me even more now and use this as justification. I started this thread (the original one, part 1) for people to open up about their happiness, their pain, their whatever and I'm glad everyone's having a good time with it. But, the relevance of someone's life does depend on popularity here and I admit that I was pretty shocked that my dad's death was worth one post, while being dateless was worth pages. I don't have anything witty, insightful or super-intelligent to say about that.

You don't have to tell me. honestly, I wasn't really reading this thread much because it was making me sick. I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm very, very, sorry about your situation with your dad. I didn't notice you were gone, because I was gone, too. Maybe it's just like any other place, when someone gets to know you they'll be more comfortable talking to you. I really have no idea. Or maybe it was because lots of people related to that dateless thing, or whatever, and wanted to talk about it. I'm really sorry, I don't know what to say. Luckily, it's not my fault. And, you also might notice, that there's been about, oh, 3 million, give or take, new posters in the last month. That's a lot to try to keep up with. My point is, don't take it too personally. I didn't even know there was a "popular" group, just people who knew each other better than they know others. Although, I guess some people take less of an effort to speak to lots of different people. You really can't control that, though - lots of people never talk to me, either.
Anyway, I'm sorry about all that stuff with your dad. I actually very rarely share my serious problems on here, because of just that reason. ie, it's highly possible that no one will give a rats ass.

[WelshWitchPMD]

Originally Posted by lagringader&r

As long as we're on this subject, I have a few things to say. I know it won't matter one way or the other what I say because I'm not one of the group. I don't have anything insightful, witty or super-intelligent to say but I do post a lot (Amber, you told me this is what makes people pay attention and respond). I posted that my dad is dying and it's conflicting for me because he split when I was a kid and made it clear he never wanted a kid. A few people said something. In this thread, only one even noticed that I hadn't posted for a few days and cared where I was. Mari, thank you! The other topic was complaints about being single. The responses to that topic (which is essentially much more important than my father losing his life) got pages and pages of responses, sympathy and backslapping. Not that not having a date Friday night isn't serious business. It is. But, don't say this board isn't a popularity contest because it is. I'm meaningless and therefore my father's desertion and death is, too. I don't have a hard time calling it for what it is. I didn't post what I did because I wanted attention. This is real to me. I traveled for 16 hours total (in layovers and change of planes) to get from LA to Brasil so I could see my dad one last time. I'm dealing with years of conflict over being abandoned and trying desperately to love my dad now while I can. It's real to me. I would have never said anything about the pages and pages of crying over being single and dateless among the *popular* group, while my dad's death was almost completely ignored, but as long as we're on the subject of cliques.. If this wasn't proof, I don't know what is. I'll get over it. It's a message board and my dad will pass whether or not I have your sympathies or concern, right? I'm just calling it as I see it. You can ignore me or dislike me even more now and use this as justification. I started this thread (the original one, part 1) for people to open up about their happiness, their pain, their whatever and I'm glad everyone's having a good time with it. But, the relevance of someone's life does depend on popularity here and I admit that I was pretty shocked that my dad's death was worth one post, while being dateless was worth pages. I don't have anything witty, insightful or super-intelligent to say about that.

Oh you are not meaningless. I am sorry to hear about your Dad.
I think that posts do get lost sometimes. Unfortunately the really irrelevant ones do receive a response sometimes. I have to say that I sort of felt like you do about the board very recently and I was a bit turned off myself. I could say that you should not let it get to you but when you are going through a tough time and come here to try and get a reprieve and you just get ignored or belittled it does hurt.
I hope that everything works out for you and your family. I will keep you and your Dad in my prayers.