Dance This Mess Around - Page 2

Serrart · #16 07-05-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I took it to mean that: I am an artist of the same caliber as Bob Dylan. IF you wouldn't question Bob Dylan's usage, HOW can you question mine?

"WOULD YOU SAY THAT TO BOB DYLAN?", clearly, IMO, indicates that she places herself in the same catagory. Like I said, delusions of grandeur.

It says to me: ''Are you being objective enough, Lindsey? Would you say the same to any other songwriter who abitually uses a rich and loose imaginary like, for instance, Bob Dylan, or are you patronizing me again?''.

Besides humble rockstar are protected by WWF.

Romy

HomerMcvie · #17 07-05-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Serrart

It says to me: are you being objective enough? Would you say the same to any other songwriter who abitually uses a rich and loose imaginary like, for instance, Bob Dylan, or are you patronizing me again?

Romy

Yes, I would think the same of anyone who made that comparison. I just think it was quite an egotistical remark to make, especially on camera.

HomerMcvie · #18 07-05-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Whatever the case Homie, I have to say that it doesn't make sense to me that your opinion of the woman changed completely based on that one comment. It took a lot for me to change my opinion of Mick and I wasn't even that fond of him to begin with. In general, you'd think it would take more than a single comment for a person to change his or her mind completely about anyone.

Oh Hillary, my opinion had already been declining for several years.

Serrart · #19 07-05-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Yes, I would think the same of anyone who made that comparison. I just think it was quite an egotistical remark to make, especially on camera.

I was referring to the meaning of Stevie's remark, not yours, Homer, sorry for not being clear enough.

Romy

GateandGarden · #20 07-05-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Oh Hillary, my opinion had already been declining for several years.

Fair enough. I suspected as much but I was responding to this.

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Originally Posted by Homie

The Bob Dylan comment FOREVER changed the way I feel about her.

It seems to suggest that it inspired a dramatic change in your opinion of the Welsh witch.

Hippocampus · #21 07-05-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

It seems to suggest that it inspired a dramatic change in your opinion of the Welsh witch.

Why are you wasting time debating with a troll?

Johnny Stew · #22 07-05-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Did she say that before or after the comment on the DVD? The reason I ask is because I'm wondering if someone said something unkind about the comment and then she had to explain it. (Was it Homie?)

She said it before the doctumentary was filmed. Several years ago, in fact.

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Whatever the case Homie, I have to say that it doesn't make sense to me that your opinion of the woman changed completely based on that one comment.

Eh, he was just itching to find another criticism to levy at Stevie.

GateandGarden · #23 07-05-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hippocampus

Why are you wasting time debating with a troll?

I thought I was one of the masters of that?

Wait, let me modify that. I'm one of the masters of wasting time, period.

PenguinHead · #24 07-05-2005, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Did she say that before or after the comment on the DVD? The reason I ask is because I'm wondering if someone said something unkind about the comment and then she had to explain it. (Was it Homie?)

A quote from Cream magazine can't possibly current. Didn't that mag (very popular great music mag from the 1970s) go out of circulation years ago?

The whole Bob Dylan "controversy" is silly to me. It was such an off-the-cuff remark. When rabid fans study things so intensely, any slight gesture, remark or action can be misconstrued, blown out of preportion, theorized and passed down until sometimes it becomes acknowledged as fact.

It seems unrealistic to me think that Stevie's PR people sat down with her to say "Stevie, there's been a lot of negative backlash regarding your Bob Dyan comment. This is hurting your image and career. We need to do damage control! Please let us issue a statement clarifying your stance...before Rolling Stone runs the cover story expose' headlined "STEVIE? YOU"RE NO BOB DYLAN!"
If her quote was so inflaming, wouldn't there have been more media about it? Should she have Katy Couric interview her so she can clear her name? Bob Dylan should probably issue a response. I think the only place where the "issue" is even thought about is right here.

But then again, it's only my theory!

Johnny Stew · #25 07-05-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

A quote from Cream magazine can't possibly current.

It's not current. It's from several years ago... in 1987, to be exact.

I think Stevie's "I'm no Bob Dylan" statement is a more accurate reflection of how she views herself as a songwriter, than to twist her comments from the documentary to make it sound like she thinks of herself as a female Bob Dylan.

She used Dylan as an example when talking to Lindsey about not following the "rules of writing," but she could have easily inserted the name of ANY contemporary songwriter there. Hell, Lindsey himself has played fast and loose with the "rules of writing" and "grammar" (for example: "You can't plant no seed").

dissention · #26 07-05-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

She used Dylan as an example when talking to Lindsey about not following the "rules of writing," but she could have easily inserted the name of ANY contemporary songwriter there. Hell, Lindsey himself has played fast and loose with the "rules of writing" and "grammar" (for example: "You can't plant no seed").

Nothing aggravates me more than Lindsey singing "I should've turned away and ran/Just as fast as I can" on Smile At You. Gawd, that burns my ass.

I wonder if he had the same convo about that as he did when it came to Thrown Down. Or maybe Stevie did it on purpose to piss him off.

GateandGarden · #27 07-06-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

A quote from Cream magazine can't possibly current. Didn't that mag (very popular great music mag from the 1970s) go out of circulation years ago?

The whole Bob Dylan "controversy" is silly to me. It was such an off-the-cuff remark. When rabid fans study things so intensely, any slight gesture, remark or action can be misconstrued, blown out of preportion, theorized and passed down until sometimes it becomes acknowledged as fact.

It seems unrealistic to me think that Stevie's PR people sat down with her to say "Stevie, there's been a lot of negative backlash regarding your Bob Dyan comment. This is hurting your image and career. We need to do damage control! Please let us issue a statement clarifying your stance...before Rolling Stone runs the cover story expose' headlined "STEVIE? YOU"RE NO BOB DYLAN!"
If her quote was so inflaming, wouldn't there have been more media about it? Should she have Katy Couric interview her so she can clear her name? Bob Dylan should probably issue a response. I think the only place where the "issue" is even thought about is right here.

But then again, it's only my theory!

Well, I was half-joking. I think Homie has put more thought into it than the rest of us combined.

dontlookdown · #28 07-06-2005, 12:05 AM

people, people.

Hello! Am I in the Room?

Tangentialize much?

Bob Dylan and Stevie Nicks. Why are we wasting our time.
That reminds me of people who constantly try to compare New York and Los Angeles. Stevie IS no Bob Dylan. But neither is any other master songwriter I can think of right now. Neil Young, Springsteen, Joni Mitchell, Jeff Tweedy, etc.

But for a change of subject, I was thinking the other day -

What do you think a Stevie Nicks version of The B-52's "Dance This Mess Around" would sound like?

henryscutter · #29 07-06-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hippocampus

Why are you wasting time debating with a troll?

Good one

To get back to the original intent of the post: I don't know that particular song, but after hearing R&R and CD I am all for more covers. I always thought she could do a kick ass version of Joplin's Piece of My Heart

HomerMcvie · #30 07-06-2005, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by henryscutter

Good one

Yeah, I think it was a great one. Thanks for allowing me to express my opinion.
FOR the(my) record, after Bella Donna(a masterpiece, which I've listened to twice this week), and Wild Heart,- well, RAL, and OSOTM, sucked, IMO! That is just my opinion, but I stand behind it. Me being a huge fan of hers fell by the wayside, after purchasing such tripe. RAL wasn't terrible, but OSOTM was craptacular, IMO. I'm amazed at the blinders some of you wear, but only for her, not the rest of the band. Again, thanks for allowing me to express my opinion here.