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dissention · #16 06-29-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Batman Begins, amazing?! ...hardly.

I thought so. It laid waste to the previous four, imo. I never knew how refreshing it would be to watch actors in a Batman movie NOT ham it up to the hilt and for a Batman movie to actually have a good story.

**mylittledemon** · #17 06-29-2005, 06:24 PM

I see your point, and as much as I love the first two movies that Tim Burton did........they STILL haven't gotten it right. I don't have any more faith in this new "run" of Bat-movies than I did in the Schumacher crap ones.

amber · #18 06-29-2005, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I see your point, and as much as I love the first two movies that Tim Burton did........they STILL haven't gotten it right. I don't have any more faith in this new "run" of Bat-movies than I did in the Schumacher crap ones.

Burton only did the second one I think. You know, the really, really good one?

**mylittledemon** · #19 06-29-2005, 06:27 PM

Tim Burton did the 1989 Batman movie and the 1992 Batman Returns movies...both of the ones with Michael Keaton in the title role. I like Bat Returns as much as the first one, even though it was a bit bizarre. I think Burton got the morbid darkness of the character right, but the stories were so wacky.

amber · #20 06-29-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Tim Burton did the 1989 Batman movie and the 1992 Batman Returns movies...both of the ones with Michael Keaton in the title role. I like Bat Returns as much as the first one, even though it was a bit bizarre. I think Burton got the morbid darkness of the character right, but the stories were so wacky.

I'll be damned, you're right. Weird, I always thought he only did the second one. I haven't even seen the whole first one. But I've seen the second one, like, 10 times. I think it's really good.

**mylittledemon** · #21 06-29-2005, 07:01 PM

That's ok Amber...I'll forgive you this grievance! =P

I still remember the way I felt when I was a kid and saw the first Batman with Keaton in it. I felt the same way when I saw Batman Returns when I was 13 yrs old. I did not get that feeling at all with this new movie. Perhaps it's because I'm old now.

dissention · #22 06-29-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I see your point, and as much as I love the first two movies that Tim Burton did........they STILL haven't gotten it right. I don't have any more faith in this new "run" of Bat-movies than I did in the Schumacher crap ones.

I've never read any of the comics and am not a huge Batman fan in that respect, so I'm only going from the movies.

To me, Batman Begins was better acted, better written (I was so incredibly happy that the characters didn't speak in billboard), better directed, and the tone was much darker and palpable than all of the others because it wasn't cartoonish and campy. I liked the fact that it centered around Bruce Wayne and Batman, not the villain(s). In the others, Bruce/Batman took the backseat to whatever villains were on display; he was pretty negligible. It certainly helped that Bale can out-act all of the previous Batmans without even trying, too. But that's just how I saw the new one when compared to the old ones.

amber · #23 06-29-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I've never read any of the comics and am not a huge Batman fan in that respect, so I'm only going from the movies.

To me, Batman Begins was better acted, better written (I was so incredibly happy that the characters didn't speak in billboard), better directed, and the tone was much darker and palpable than all of the others because it wasn't cartoonish and campy. I liked the fact that it centered around Bruce Wayne and Batman, not the villain(s). In the others, Bruce/Batman took the backseat to whatever villains were on display; he was pretty negligible. It certainly helped that Bale can out-act all of the previous Batmans without even trying, too. But that's just how I saw the new one when compared to the old ones.

Okay, but you have to admit, the cast/acting of the villains was pretty effing stellar in the second one. Walken? ho****! Pfeiffer? Ho****! DeVito? Ho****!!!

ryan8472 · #24 06-29-2005, 07:42 PM

I might have to break out Batman Returns tonight after all this talk.

amber · #25 06-29-2005, 07:44 PM

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I might have to break out Batman Returns tonight after all this talk.

HELLYAH!!! You can never see Batman Returns too many times! It helps that I think Walken and Pfieffer are two of the hottiest hots evah, but still it's great!

dissention · #26 06-29-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Okay, but you have to admit, the cast/acting of the villains was pretty effing stellar in the second one. Walken? ho****! Pfeiffer? Ho****! DeVito? Ho****!!!

Walken was Walken, per usual, and Devito was fine, but it was Pfeiffer who stole the show from everyone! She? Was magnificent. You forgot you were watching Michelle Pfeiffer, she WAS Catwoman, much in the same way that I felt I was watching Bruce Wayne and Batman, not Christian Bale. My problem with the earlier films, with the exception of Pfeiffer, was that they were just excuses for famous actors to ham and vamp it up. Got kind of annoying after awhile to me.

**mylittledemon** · #27 06-29-2005, 07:44 PM

I very much like the performances of Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson, Michelle Pfeiffer and Danny DeVito. Batman Returns has a very strange feel to it...but its very good. I think I enjoy it more now than I did when I was a kid. I remember my mom saying she didnt think that was a "Batman movie for kids."

**mylittledemon** · #28 06-29-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

My problem with the earlier films, with the exception of Pfeiffer, was that they were just excuses for famous actors to ham and vamp it up. Got kind of annoying after awhile to me.

How so? Keaton hamming it up? no way. His performance is dark in the first movie! Nicholson? Well yes he was hamming it up, but then again thats the Joker isn't it.

amber · #29 06-29-2005, 07:47 PM

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Walken was Walken, per usual, and Devito was fine, but it was Pfeiffer who stole the show from everyone! She? Was magnificent. You forgot you were watching Michelle Pfeiffer, she WAS Catwoman, much in the same way that I felt I was watching Bruce Wayne and Batman, not Christian Bale. My problem with the earlier films, with the exception of Pfeiffer, was that they were just excuses for famous actors to ham and vamp it up. Got kind of annoying after while to me.

Oh. Well, yeah. It got annoying to me after Batman Returns.

course, they never assembled such a good cast again. I love Walken as Walken. He can Walken it up till the cows come home (wait, I'm already at home! har!) and I will be happy. Devito grossed me out, but he was really good. God, when he was eating the fish? Blergh!
I see your point, though, but again, for me, it only applies after that movie.

dissention · #30 06-29-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I very much like the performances of Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson, Michelle Pfeiffer and Danny DeVito. Batman Returns has a very strange feel to it...but its very good. I think I enjoy it more now than I did when I was a kid. I remember my mom saying she didnt think that was a "Batman movie for kids."

Yeah, it was pretty damned dark. The opening with the parents trying to kill their kid, especially.

But I felt it was still cartoonish enough to not be, I don't know, overwhelming (for lack of a better word).