What's up with the ticket sales??

[darklinensuit]

Regarding the thread topic:
Too much of Stevie's bread and butter, her die-hards, are tired of her set list and still paying off expensive seats from recent tours, and they had to buy these seats from brokers.
Casual fans are either unaware of the tour, are turned off by the prices, or are unaware that she still puts out good (or any) new solo music. POTU was #1 on the dance charts, but nobody I know outside these boards would believe that. People who find out I'm a fan ask me if she's still with Fleetwood Mac and they are surprised to hear that she has had a solo album in the last ten years, let alone that it charted. Casual fans think her solo career is Edge, Stand Back, If Anyone Falls, and Leather And Lace, and that's it.
When Stevie's best solo songs of the last ten or fifteen years don't get airplay, when Entertainment Tonight profiles Katie Holmes the Scientologist rather than Stevie the singer, it's very doubtful that new folks are going to be inspired to risk money on tickets. Many of these casual fans would otherwise be brought in by the diehards, but like I said, many of the die-hards are sitting out.

- Jake

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by darklinensuit

Regarding the thread topic:
Too much of Stevie's bread and butter, her die-hards, are tired of her set list and still paying off expensive seats from recent tours, and they had to buy these seats from brokers.

I'm one of the die-hards who is still paying off my expensive seats that I had to buy from brokers for both Vegas and SYW but to me it's well worth it. You are very correct about why these shows will not do really well IMO. It's funny you are so right about causual fans. Most people I know not only have no clue she has put out a solo album in the last 10 years but a lot don't even know FM put out an album recently. She has way more of a draw with FM than solo. It's sad but true. I never thought about her shows not selling well until I read this thread but I'm not at all surprised. I guess I'm just disappointed that some of the die-hards are sitting this one out. I could never do that.

[LiquidBlue5000]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

I'm one of the die-hards who is still paying off my expensive seats that I had to buy from brokers for both Vegas and SYW but to me it's well worth it. You are very correct about why these shows will not do really well IMO. It's funny you are so right about causual fans. Most people I know not only have no clue she has put out a solo album in the last 10 years but a lot don't even know FM put out an album recently. She has way more of a draw with FM than solo. It's sad but true. I never thought about her shows not selling well until I read this thread but I'm not at all surprised. I guess I'm just disappointed that some of the die-hards are sitting this one out. I could never do that.

especially since her recent performances are her best solo efforts since the "Enchanted" tour... those die-hards who decided to "sit this one out" are missing out big time..

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

especially since her recent performances are her best solo efforts since the "Enchanted" tour... those die-hards who decided to "sit this one out" are missing out big time..

Ah well, their loss. I'm going and intend to have a blast with my girl and nothing is stopping me. Her teeth look funny in your sig by the way. Like baby teeth, it's cute.

[Keith]

I noted when I went on ticketmaster to check out the Nissan Pavilion concert that it stated "Lawns seats weren't being sold at this show." I did remember that back on the TISL tour, everyone who had lawn tickets were allowed to go in section 300 of the pavilion. I think the pavilion itself holds about 10,000, still a nice showing for an aging rock and roll hippie queen. I do think she has oversaturated the market, and ticket prices and the competition this summer doesn't help.

I also noted on the NP website that they are offering a package deal this summer. 7 shows for $99 (lawn seats, of course.) Stevie is one of the 7 shows that features the Allman Brothers, James Taylor, John Mellencamp/John Fogerty, Ozzfest, Widespread Panic, and Motley Crue. about $14 and some change per show.. not bad at all. Stevie, the Allman Brothers, Mellencamp/Fogerty, and James Taylor is worth the price tag alone. Definitely "grass"' shows..

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by Keith

Stevie, the Allman Brothers, Mellencamp/Fogerty, and James Taylor is worth the price tag alone. Definitely "grass"' shows..

Stevie a grass show? I hope you are referring to another type of grass...

[LiquidBlue5000]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

Ah well, their loss. I'm going and intend to have a blast with my girl and nothing is stopping me. Her teeth look funny in your sig by the way. Like baby teeth, it's cute.

that's the way her teeth always look.. u just never really see them that much, cuz she always makes that "serious" look when posing for pictures..

[Sugar]

Originally Posted by dissention

How can I skip an entire tour? Easy. I don't want to waste my money. I've experienced her presence many times over and she sang the same songs, I'm not missing anything. Her twirls don't make me spray my shorts and instead of seeing her sing Rhiannon for the millionth time, I'll save my steak for if Lindsey ever does some solo shows.

I agree wholeheartedly.

Lindsey's solo show was bar none the best concert experience in my life, and frankly has ruined the whole big stadium show thing for me. *Memories of having this conversation with Carne* I'd like to see Stevie do a show like that. But then I am a different sort of fan.

I've been listening to the boots and she sounds...pretty good. Certainly the covers are interesting. But to drop $300 for one night? No way. I have a life with a whole lot of things that need my money more than Stevie.

I did see SYW from the second row, so that was cool, but I probably wouldn't have seen it from any farther away. A stadium show has to be a pretty big deal these days to make it worth my inconvenience!

[LiquidBlue5000]

Originally Posted by Sugar

I agree wholeheartedly.

Lindsey's solo show was bar none the best concert experience in my life, and frankly has ruined the whole big stadium show thing for me. *Memories of having this conversation with Carne* I'd like to see Stevie do a show like that. But then I am a different sort of fan.

I've been listening to the boots and she sounds...pretty good. Certainly the covers are interesting. But to drop $300 for one night? No way. I have a life with a whole lot of things that need my money more than Stevie.

I did see SYW from the second row, so that was cool, but I probably wouldn't have seen it from any farther away. A stadium show has to be a pretty big deal these days to make it worth my inconvenience!

if you have the $$, then spend it - that's my philosophy... if you don't have it and need it for other things, then that's certainly understandable.. but it's the people (fans) that HAVE the money and refuse to spend it on somethign that they would really enjoy that kinda irritate me.. instead they just put it in the bank to save it... ummm, what are you saving for, people?? your funeral? makes no sense to me..

... live for today, for tomorrow may never come

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by AliceLover

First of all don't tell ME what I would be complaining about. Doing covers is one thing, but doing songs from her own collection is another thing. If she started doing storms at her solo concerts I would go for sure. Nobody was complaining on Enchanted tour. Plus, ive seen the enchanted, tisl, and henley/nicks show. Same Same Same, except props to enchanted tour. I don't know how many you have seen, but for me its been the same.

point to this: covers/own material different stuff.

The point is there will be some unhappy people who complain no matter what she chooses to sing. I referenced Storms because you had said in the past you didn't care for it. I would much rather hear "Rock n Roll" than some of her 88-94 stuff...it's all about preference. Every tour has been different, so actually no it's not the same same same every tour. Sure some things are the same...There were many songs on the Enchanted tour that were never performed before or again, as well as TISL...This tour she has broken out some things (IE : Beauty and the Beast) in which she has not done in quite awhile.
And yes many people did complain on the Enchanted tour, some said they wanted more HITS, some said they wanted her to change it night by night, and not do the same set every night.

These two set lists are not the SAME, I'm sorry if you think so.

2001 :

Stop Draggin/Enchanted/Dreams/Gold Dust Woman/Sorcerer/Every Day/ Rhiannon/ Stand Back/ Planets of the Universe/ Too Far From Texas/ Bombay Sapphires/ Fall From Grace/ Edge of 17/ I Need to Know/ HAEWAFY

2005 :

OTR/Dreams/Enchanted/Stop Draggin/Rhiannon/Sorcerer/GDW/ Stand Back/ I Need to Know/ HAEWAFY / Circle Dance/ Fall From Grace/ Edge of 17 / Rock N Roll/ Beauty and the Beast

NOT THE SAME SET LIST..

[Mokona]

For me, it's hard to believe Stevie has oversaturated anything. A quick glance through the rags at the grocery store tell you she's not even on the radar anymore. Cher gets more pictures in these things than Stevie (although Cher is touring her final show, supposedly). But I guess as far as her solo and FM fans are concerned, maybe she has flooded that market.

Casual fans are either unaware of the tour, are turned off by the prices, or are unaware that she still puts out good (or any) new solo music. POTU was #1 on the dance charts, but nobody I know outside these boards would believe that. People who find out I'm a fan ask me if she's still with Fleetwood Mac and they are surprised to hear that she has had a solo album in the last ten years, let alone that it charted.

This is especially true. I told my doctor I was going to see Stevie perform, and he said, "Isn't she in a wheelchair by now?" Argh! I should've smacked him.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

These two set lists are not the SAME, I'm sorry if you think so.

2001 :

Stop Draggin/Enchanted/Dreams/Gold Dust Woman/Sorcerer/Every Day/ Rhiannon/ Stand Back/ Planets of the Universe/ Too Far From Texas/ Bombay Sapphires/ Fall From Grace/ Edge of 17/ I Need to Know/ HAEWAFY

2005 :

OTR/Dreams/Enchanted/Stop Draggin/Rhiannon/Sorcerer/GDW/ Stand Back/ I Need to Know/ HAEWAFY / Circle Dance/ Fall From Grace/ Edge of 17 / Rock N Roll/ Beauty and the Beast

NOT THE SAME SET LIST..

Same: 11-12 (since OTR was on the TISL Tour for a short time)
Different: 3-4

It's pretty much the same in my eyes. More energy (so far) this time around.....yes. Same song and dance....yes. It's give and take.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Sugar

I agree wholeheartedly.

Lindsey's solo show was bar none the best concert experience in my life, and frankly has ruined the whole big stadium show thing for me. *Memories of having this conversation with Carne* I'd like to see Stevie do a show like that. But then I am a different sort of fan.

I've been listening to the boots and she sounds...pretty good. Certainly the covers are interesting. But to drop $300 for one night? No way. I have a life with a whole lot of things that need my money more than Stevie.

I did see SYW from the second row, so that was cool, but I probably wouldn't have seen it from any farther away. A stadium show has to be a pretty big deal these days to make it worth my inconvenience!

And I agree wholeheartedly with all of that.

I'm not a fan of big shows, I've always preferred small and intimate ones. That's why I'm salivating at the thought of Lindsey doing a small solo tour; it's guaranteed to hit the tiny venues and he's sure to play lots of rarities that he doesn't get to play when he's with Fleetwood Mac. Those are the kind of shows that are special to me, not seeing Stevie sing the same old stuff once again for too much money. Two covers isn't worth the money to me. I could put gas in my car, buy groceries, pay bills, and lots of other things with that money. If she were to perform lots of rare songs or if it was her last tour, then yeah, I'd go. But otherwise, forget it. I don't find her to be otherworldly and her presence isn't that impressive for me to drop that kind of cash. The ones who really want to see her do the same thing can have the seat that I won't be buying and I hope they enjoy it.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Mokona

For me, it's hard to believe Stevie has oversaturated anything. A quick glance through the rags at the grocery store tell you she's not even on the radar anymore. Cher gets more pictures in these things than Stevie (although Cher is touring her final show, supposedly). But I guess as far as her solo and FM fans are concerned, maybe she has flooded that market.

She's oversaturated the concert market. Look at all the tours she's been on since 1997 and then look at the last Fleetwood Mac tour where they hit the same markets twice, sometimes three, times over. Then less than a year later, she hit the same markets again with Henley and is now hauling back out for a solo tour. The constant touring of the same markets and venues is not going to lead to big returns.

[lagringader&r]

A wheelchair? Hardly! A**hole.

I don't think Stevie's gotten enough exposure for this tour. It's also confusing because first she toured with Henley and now she's on her own. If it was FM touring, do you think the ticket sales would be higher?