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[gldstwmn]

Signed.

[GypsySorcerer]

Done. Hope it helps.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by golddustdragon

From what I see, some GOP congressmen are starting to break ranks with the hardliners. I hope they use their heads and not their partisan leaning hearts. We know how irrational decisions from the heart can be.

Yes because we got a huge majority voting against the part of the patriot act that would allow library and book purchase records to be obtained. So there is a divide beginning.

[DrummerDeanna]

I was SO going to post that link

Anyway - it is a real and very scary threat. It's not the first time public broadcasting has been in danger and it probably won't be the last - I just hope that enough support comes through -

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by golddustdragon

From what I see, some GOP congressmen are starting to break ranks with the hardliners. I hope they use their heads and not their partisan leaning hearts. We know how irrational decisions from the heart can be.

Bush has had only minor success this term and has sold out his larger possibilites. For example:

SS "reform" is dead in the water with IMO no hope of revival in its present state, which W has been adamant about keeping

Yes, he got three of five judges in, but Frist via the very very clever McCain sold out the big fish known as the USSC nominee which is rumored to be coming as early as Sept.

The Patriot Act has been lessened against W's wishes

Tax reform is stalled

Control of Stem Cell research is slipping through W's fingers

W's popularity is low

only around 40% of Americans think the Iraq war was worth it and that number seemingly continues to drop.

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All of this suggests that W's popularity is waning. I still say his popularity was waning before the election, but he won, all consp. theories aside, because Kerry was not a strong enough candidate.

We shall see how it all plays out, but the R sharks are swimming excitedly at the smell of blood - at least as I see it.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Yes because we got a huge majority voting against the part of the patriot act that would allow library and book purchase records to be obtained. So there is a divide beginning.

This was the vote 238 to 187.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Bush has had only minor success this term and has sold out his larger possibilites. For example:

SS "reform" is dead in the water with IMO no hope of revival in its present state, which W has been adamant about keeping

Yes, he got three of five judges in, but Frist via the very very clever McCain sold out the big fish known as the USSC nominee which is rumored to be coming as early as Sept.

The Patriot Act has been lessened against W's wishes

Tax reform is stalled

Control of Stem Cell research is slipping through W's fingers

W's popularity is low

only around 40% of Americans think the Iraq war was worth it and that number seemingly continues to drop.

___________________________________________________________

All of this suggests that W's popularity is waning. I still say his popularity was waning before the election, but he won, all consp. theories aside, because Kerry was not a strong enough candidate.

We shall see how it all plays out, but the R sharks are swimming excitedly at the smell of blood - at least as I see it.

It appears more heat is coming........


Lawmakers Push Resolution on Iraq Pullout
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
57 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush would have to start bringing home U.S. troops from Iraq by Oct. 1, 2006, under a measure a small bipartisan group of House lawmakers — including a Republican who voted for war — proposed Thursday.

Two Republicans and two Democrats introduced a resolution that would require the president to announce by the end of this year a plan for withdrawing troops and steps for following through on that plan.

It is the first such resolution put forth by lawmakers from both parties, although an overwhelming number of Democrats and six House Republicans voted in 2002 against sending troops to Iraq.

Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said such timetables won't work, suggesting insurgents would simply wait for U.S. forces to withdraw before attacking.

Lt. Gen. James Conway, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said, "If you look at it from the insurgents' perspective — they know our history, just like we study them — and they see where we have withdrawn previously, in Vietnam, in Beirut, in Somalia, and nothing would make them happier, I suppose, than to think that there is a deadline out there."

The Bush administration has insisted that a timetable for withdrawal can't be considered until Iraq's security forces are strong enough to protect their country from insurgents.

While many Democrats and some Republicans repeatedly have voted against continued funding for the war, there has been no concerted joint effort before to bring troops home.

A low-water mark of 41 percent of adults said in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll this month that they supported Bush's handling of the war in Iraq. And a Gallup poll released Monday found that six in 10 Americans say they think the United States should withdraw some or all of its troops from Iraq.

Conway, speaking to reporters at the Pentagon, acknowledged the poll numbers were down.

He said the U.S. military has to be concerned about indications "our public is not as supportive as perhaps they once were." But Conway also said, "We'd like, I believe, to try to reverse those figures and start the trend back the other direction because it's extremely important to the soldier and the Marine, the airmen and the sailor over there to know that their country's behind them."

Car bombings and attacks by insurgents killed 80 U.S. troops and more than 700 Iraqis last month. Pentagon officials acknowledge the level of violence is about the same as a year ago.

Among the resolution's sponsors are Rep. Walter Jones (news, bio, voting record), R-N.C., who voted for the Iraq war but now says the United States has done what it can in Iraq and the reason for going to war — Saddam Hussein's alleged possession of weapons of mass destruction — has been proven false.

"After 1,700 deaths, over 12,000 wounded, and $200 billion spent, we believe it is time to have this debate and discussion on this resolution," Jones said.

Two years ago, Jones helped lead an effort to ensure Capitol Hill cafeterias retooled their menus to advertise "freedom fries" instead of french fries to protest France's opposition to the war.

The other resolution sponsors are Ron Paul, R-Texas, who voted against the war, and two Democrats who've opposed it, Reps. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio and Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

all consp. theories aside,

People standing in line in minority districts for hours on end in the rain because there weren't enough voting machines for them is not a conspiracy theory.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

People standing in line in minority districts for hours on end in the rain because there weren't enough voting machines for them is not a conspiracy theory.

I did not use "consp. theory" to insult - it was just an expression

[seeker007nmss]

Where is Mr. Rogers When we need him? Maybe they could reshow his testimoney to Congress when they needed money and he wrapped them all around his finger.

[Sugar]

Signed.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Where is Mr. Rogers When we need him? Maybe they could reshow his testimoney to Congress when they needed money and he wrapped them all around his finger.

Well Mr. McFeeley is still alive and kicking - he was in Rochester a couple of weeks ago - he was at our station doing our talk show - and I missed him Anyway - I hope that enough people voice their support for public broadcasting - it really is a valuable asset...and I'm totally not just saying that because I work in public radio...

[seeker007nmss]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Well Mr. McFeeley is still alive and kicking - he was in Rochester a couple of weeks ago - he was at our station doing our talk show - and I missed him Anyway - I hope that enough people voice their support for public broadcasting - it really is a valuable asset...and I'm totally not just saying that because I work in public radio...

I got the DVD bio on Fred Rogers. (Okay ..one..two...three....PBS GEEK) Anyway, was very interesting. In the extras they had the congressional hearings for funding, ... They never had a chance with Mr. Rogers there, even the "tough" congressman wanted to give up the cash.

[Mari]

I don't know of non-americans can sign this, but they want to stop funding Sesame Street?!?!

What I'm afraid of, Bush might be gone one day but all those laws, etcetera will be there for a long time after. Or free media organisations, gone is gone ?

[irishgrl]

signed when I got my own MoveOn email........I seriously thought about posting it and Im glad Suze DID do it.

I actually got a response from one of my co-workers that said this was a hoax (apparently she tested it by going to a "truth or fiction" type of link, and she wouldnt sign. I told her I trusted MoveOn more than any Truth or Fiction type website, and thanks anyway)