What If.. - Page 2

TheMacAttack · #16 06-03-2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention

He's pitchy

...and sometimes he is downright just bitchy

GateandGarden · #17 06-03-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELIUD

Lindsey, Stevie, Christine whoever. None of the talented people that are currently in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would stand a chance on a show like American Idol. That show's only agenda is to produce more of the same homogeneous pop stars that appeal to the masses. Aside from Fantasia whats-her-name, American Idol has added NOBODY IMPORTANT OR ORIGINAL to the current talent pool of young recording artists.

I don't know how you can say that Fantasia is more original than Nadia.

And I'm not a big Idol fan at all, but despite the fact that they make the contestants fit into these cookie cutter molds, they always seem to favor people who do have vocal talent. I can give them that, especially since that's absent from popular music a lot these days. (Ashlee Simpson?)

ontheEdgeof17 · #18 06-03-2005, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan

Lindsey doesn't have such a good voice live it's very limited. On record it sounds fine, but that's been fine tuned or tweaked... Stevie's too, but she at least has that powerful voice live, and it's even more powerful now then it was in the late 90's....

It's funny you say this. I was just thinking the other day on how Lindsey's vocals on SYW were more tweaked and fine tuned and Stevie's were left more raw and "unfinished-like"(RTTG, DR).

gldstwmn · #19 06-03-2005, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia

When the Dance came out, a local music critic here said that LB's voice sounded like he'd gargled with Clorox. For all the flack people give Stevie for her voice declining over the years, personally, I think LB's has gotten MUCH worse!

He doesn't practice.

Also, even though I kind of admire him for it, he doesn't wear an ear monitor.

gldstwmn · #20 06-03-2005, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

It is unfortunate because the real stars are the ones with personality and something special about them (Stevie, Janis, Elvis, Bob Dylan, etc.).

Elvis had a gorgeous voice right up until the very end.

gldstwmn · #21 06-03-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELIUD

Lindsey, Stevie, Christine whoever. None of the talented people that are currently in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would stand a chance on a show like American Idol. That show's only agenda is to produce more of the same homogeneous pop stars that appeal to the masses.

Bingo.

markolas · #22 06-03-2005, 05:41 PM

I was listening to an interview with Joni Mitchell recently, and she mentioned that she'd heard some music industry bigwig say that "we're not looking for talent...we want a "look" and a willingness to cooperate." And that's what the American Idol judges seem to be looking for. Joni also said that the technically great singers today have no passion in their voices. So, no, I don't think Lindsey & Steve would be able to make it if they were trying to break into music today...but that's not because they're no good, it's because the music industry is looking for people who fit a certain image, and who'll do exactly as they're told. It has nothing to do with creativity or art.

Yes, Lindsey's voice has deteriorated, and so has Stevie's, but there's more to their music than their voices.

lagringader&r · #23 06-03-2005, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markolas

I was listening to an interview with Joni Mitchell recently, and she mentioned that she'd heard some music industry bigwig say that "we're not looking for talent...we want a "look" and a willingness to cooperate." And that's what the American Idol judges seem to be looking for. Joni also said that the technically great singers today have no passion in their voices. So, no, I don't think Lindsey & Steve would be able to make it if they were trying to break into music today...but that's not because they're no good, it's because the music industry is looking for people who fit a certain image, and who'll do exactly as they're told. It has nothing to do with creativity or art.

Yes, Lindsey's voice has deteriorated, and so has Stevie's, but there's more to their music than their voices.

I agree with all of this. Tusk is my favorite FM cd and I don't understand why it wasn't more popular. I think their voices are good on it and the music is so diverse. Rumours bores me a little, frankly

I guess it's kind of a fun one to listen to, but it's so pop. No doubt that's why it sold so well, even if their voices aren't the best. These days, I think Stevie still stays on key and while she can't hit a lot of high notes, the lower end of her register is still really strong. Lindsey can't sing at all and I wondered if he ever could? I never really heard him hold a note for a long period of time or blow me away with his vocals. Did he ever have a good voice? I can't imagine him taking voice lessons at his age. At least they still put a lot of passion into their music. You're right in there being more to music than voices.

glitter_fades · #24 06-03-2005, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagringader&r

Lindsey can't sing at all and I wondered if he ever could? I never really heard him hold a note for a long period of time or blow me away with his vocals. Did he ever have a good voice?

He had a better voice than Stevie when they started out. Pavarotti didn't need to worry about competition but sheesh we're talking about Rock n Roll here. Stevie can't really sing either, but she does more with the voice she has. Her unusual voice gives her an edge in the rock arena. They both suck now. I'd say he sucks worse from not practicing and not wearing an ear piece during live shows to stay on pitch. I can live with that as long as he keeps playing guitar well enough not to embarass himself.

Quote:

I can't imagine him taking voice lessons at his age.

Hardly.

lagringader&r · #25 06-03-2005, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitter_fades

He had a better voice than Stevie when they started out. Pavarotti didn't need to worry about competition but sheesh we're talking about Rock n Roll here. Stevie can't really sing either, but she does more with the voice she has. Her unusual voice gives her an edge in the rock arena. They both suck now. I'd say he sucks worse from not practicing and not wearing an ear piece during live shows to stay on pitch. I can live with that as long as he keeps playing guitar well enough not to embarass himself.

I know this is *in-studio* but when I found out that Stevie did all the harmony and backup vocals on Dreams, I was shocked. She basically carried that whole song on her own. So, I'd say she could definitely sing back then. They aren't opera singers, you're right, but I think she really could hold those higher notes. Her voice is unusual, though, and her songs are weird.

That's what attracts me the most.

strandinthewind · #26 06-03-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitter_fades

. . . Pavarotti didn't need to worry about competition . . . .

Two Words:

Jose Carreras - it was better before the illness, but even after it was fab. and in many ways better than LP, who, make no mistake, ws very very good and often flawless.

http://www.jcarreras.com/dhtml.htm

amber · #27 06-03-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagringader&r

I know this is *in-studio* but when I found out that Stevie did all the harmony and backup vocals on Dreams, I was shocked. She basically carried that whole song on her own. So, I'd say she could definitely sing back then. They aren't opera singers, you're right, but I think she really could hold those higher notes. Her voice is unusual, though, and her songs are weird.

That's what attracts me the most.

Me, too. But I think they have really good voices, both of their senses of harmony is outstanding, IMO. Right, yes, they're not opera singers. For rock, though, they are great.

glitter_fades · #28 06-03-2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Two Words:

Jose Carreras - it was better before the illness, but even after it was fab. and in many ways better than LP, who, make no mistake, ws very very good and often flawless.

http://www.jcarreras.com/dhtml.htm

Love the little brother,

but I'm a Placido Domingo groupie all the way.