Why in 1975? - Page 10

SteveMacD · #**136** 06-01-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Puhleeze.....

Everybody who wanted "Say You Will" bought "Say You Will."

I agree, but it also has to be said that I know I'm not the only person who has bought an album by a band I'm not necessarily a fan of and thought it was actually a really good album. I think most won't disagree with your statements, but a better track order and better flow might have made the album more listenable to people who aren't necessarily fans. It might not have sold two more albums, or it might have sold an extra 200,000 albums. But that's speculation.

OTOH, look at how glowing the reviews were for Lindsey's OOTC. It got some of the best reviews I've ever seen, got lots of promotion, had videos on VH-1, was played on the radio, and Lindsey even toured in support of the album, yet I think it sold about what "Time" sold. So it would appear that there's an "it factor" that the band no longer has.

gldstwmn · #**137** 06-01-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

and, respectfully, you'd be wrong. The radio stations here panned them the morning after and I heard people who are not fans laughing about how bad it was. So, the nonfans saw it and were talking about it. Interestingly, for any of those millions who watch that very popular show who would even think about maybe buying that record, that ruined it.

I had people who weren't even fans running up to me panning the performance, especially Lindsey's.

All I could sputter in their defense was "Well, they were cold."

gldstwmn · #**138** 06-01-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I loved her scarf.

Yup. That's it.

I'm mortified she wore fur. It made her look Gramma.

gldstwmn · #**139** 06-01-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lagringader&r

And possibly FM has realized this and made the decision to "throw in the towel"? However sad that might be for us..

None of them will ever really throw in the towel until the inevitable happnes.

SteveMacD · #**140** 06-01-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

None of them will ever really throw in the towel until the inevitable happnes.

And even then...

strandinthewind · #**141** 06-01-2005, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

But who amongst them have had hits of any significance since 1987? I've been saying that "Tango" was very much the end of those days for these people!

Silver Springs and Landslide from The Dance as well as POTU Dance Remix

I realize those were not huge Top 40 stuff - but and interestingly, La Nicks is probably known as much for that version of Landslide as the 70's Rhiannon.

But, as far as top 10 stuff, yes, Tango was the end of it, except for album debuts, which Nicks and the Mac have both achieved since then, though no where near the sales prior to 87.

strandinthewind · #**142** 06-01-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I'm mortified she wore fur. It made her look Gramma.

well, the cardigan sweater with the little pearls was soon to follow - bless her heart

amber · #**143** 06-01-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But, as far as top 10 stuff, yes, Tango was the end of it, except for album debuts, which Nicks and the Mac have both achieved since then, though no where near the sales prior to 87.

But, gosh, I don't even care. I'm shocked they have had the longevity that they do, lots of people are "over" way sooner. There's only a few others who've accomplished what they have, and I'm so very proud of them. You have to be a very special band to accomplish what they have. Even Tango, having a hit 10+ years after your first breakout, is an astounding accomplishment, what with the fickleness of tastes and the music biz.

ontheEdgeof17 · #**144** 06-01-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

well, the cardigan sweater with the little pearls was soon to follow - bless her heart

I guess you missed the SYW tour?

strandinthewind · #**145** 06-01-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

But, gosh, I don't even care. I'm shocked they have had the longevity that they do, lots of people are "over" way sooner. There's only a few others who've accomplished what they have, and I'm so very proud of them. You have to be a very special band to accomplish what they have. Even Tango, having a hit 10+ years after your first breakout, is an astounding accomplishment, what with the fickleness of tastes and the music biz.

Well, to be fair, 10 years later, The Dance was a HUGE hit by any standard for them as well even though none of the new material went anywhere

So, I think that relevance in the music world along with La Nicks' critical and somewhat small commercial success of TISL four years later is what allowed the Mac to record SYW in the style they did. I mean they must have spent a couple of million to make that record once you count in the Bel Air house rental, the moving of the studio, the mixing, the production, promotion, etc. - though someone in the industry would know more about that than I would. I have to wonder if they record another record if they will get that perk given the relative failure of SYW to sell well - remember they were talking millions of units sold, which never happened though the tour was a relative success.

strandinthewind · #**146** 06-01-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I guess you missed the SYW tour?

well that is where she wore it

I think I missed something

amber · #**147** 06-01-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Well, to be fair, 10 years later, The Dance was a HUGE hit by any standard for them as well even though none of the new material went anywhere

So, I think that relevance in the music world along with La Nicks' critical and somewhat small commercial success of TISL four years later is what allowed the Mac to record SYW in the style they did. I mean they must have spent a couple of million to make that record once you count in the Bel Air house rental, the moving of the studio, the mixing, the production, promotion, etc. - though someone in the industry would know more about that than I would. I have to wonder if they record another record if they will get that perk given the relative failure of SYW to sell well - remember they were talking millions of units sold, which never happened though the tour was a relative success.

True. But that doesn't really go against anything I said. Um...I think they may not get that perk, which I think is fine. And I submit, again, that considering how long they have been in the biz, SYW's failure is very relative.

SteveMacD · #**148** 06-01-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

Even Tango, having a hit 10+ years after your first breakout, is an astounding accomplishment, what with the fickleness of tastes and the music biz.

Or, even further, having your biggest hit ten years after you made a pretty big debut, had a bunch of hits in Europe, became obscure in Europe, developed a big following in the US, had three guitarists leave on tour, cancelling two of those tours, having a fake Mac on the road at one point, and having everybody in the band divorcing one another. By 1977, most bands would have said F-it, and gone their separate ways. Not this band! I'll never say Fleetwood Mac was the greatest band ever (neither would they), but they sure seem to be the most resilient.

ontheEdgeof17 · #**149** 06-01-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

well that is where she wore it

I think I missed something

I misread.

amber · #**150** 06-01-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Or, even further, having your biggest hit ten years after you made a pretty big debut, had a bunch of hits in Europe, became obscure in Europe, developed a big following in the US, had three guitarists leave on tour, cancelling two of those tours, having a fake Mac on the road at one point, and having everybody in the band divorcing one another. By 1977, most bands would have said F-it, and gone their separate ways. Not this band! I'll never say Fleetwood Mac was the greatest band ever (neither would they), but they sure seem to be the most resilient.

I see your point. But I will raise you....GREATEST BAND EVAH!!!!