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Old 05-28-2005, 12:32 AM
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Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings, and the whole Sara saga has been ongoing for so long that when I hear it, all I can think of is Henley, abortion, and other assorted ****. Like I said, not my cup of tea. And, again, I don't think it's a very good song to begin with.
I do the same thing. I don't think I'd enjoy "That Made Me Stronger" if I sat down and thought about what she's singing about. And I don't care what "Sara" is really about at this point. I attribute my own meaning to it and that's what matters to me. I don't tune out the interpretations but I refuse to think of them while listening to the song. I won't let anything ruin "Sara" for me. There's just too much for me to love about it.
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:34 AM
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Really? You've heard that theory before? Geez. I, like you, don't really think too much about things like that. But that idea just seems so...preposterous to me...I didn't realize it was a commonly held theory..
I've been hearing about it as long as I've been a fan (only two years, basically). It has always seemed far-fetched to me.
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:49 AM
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Wait, what do you mean "found out" it might be about that? Is there any credible evidence to suggest that? It still seems waaaay to out there to me, even as far as Stevie theories go...
Don Henley told GQ many a year ago, that, "to the best of (his) knowledge," Stevie wrote the song "Sara" in tribute to the aborted child she was carrying -- fathered by him.

Stevie has said that it was written about all of the things the members of Fleetwood Mac were going through at that time, with Mick having directly inspired the "he was just like a great dark wing" line.
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:54 AM
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Don Henley told GQ many a year ago, that, "to the best of (his) knowledge," Stevie wrote the song "Sara" in tribute to the aborted child she was carrying -- fathered by him.
Oh. Well, it still seems lame. I don't really believe Don.
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Old 05-28-2005, 12:57 AM
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Personally, I try to stay away from a lot of the meanings attributed to songs by the artists who write them because I like to attribute my own meaning and personal attachments to them. Sometimes I can stay away from them, other times I can't. Unfortunately, that's impossible to do with Nicks and her ramblings....
Actually, it's not "impossible."
And with the obvious disdain you have for present-day Stevie, and her "doe-eyed woman-child schtick," I should think it'd be easy to avoid reading or listening to her interviews.

But we all know you simply can't resist anything Stevie-related... just like the rest of us.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:01 AM
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Oh. Well, it still seems lame. I don't really believe Don.
If an abortion has anything to do with that song, I'm sure it's only one small part of it.

And, truly, it shouldn't get in the way of anyone's enjoyment of the song. It really doesn't matter what an artist says their lyrics mean -- for us, as the listeners, it only matters what we bring to the song.

For me, "Sara" will always bring me back to a time in my life, about 15 years ago. It was a bittersweet time, to be sure, but the song still evokes memories that bring a smile to my face.
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Old 05-28-2005, 01:03 AM
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If an abortion has anything to do with that song, I'm sure it's one small part of it.

And, truly, it shouldn't get in the way of anyone's enjoyment of the song. It really doesn't matter what an artist says their lyrics mean -- for us, as the listeners, it only matters what we bring to the song.

For me, "Sara" will always bring me back to a time in my life, about 15 years ago. It was a bittersweet time, to be sure, but the song still evokes memories that bring a smile to my face.
Yeah. It won't get in the way of my "enjoyment". That just seems really lame for Don to have said that, anyways. And also self absorbed.
Glad it (the song, not Don's lamosity) brings a smile to your (handsome) face.
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I can't keep up with all of these "in-jokes" from other boards!

I talked about the "Goodbye Baby"/Rhiannon-myth stuff here, so I wasn't sure if you were commenting on that discussion, or what.

For the record, I wasn't offended either way. That was meant to be a playful use of the emoticon.
Yup, Jason "loves" to discuss the Tower/Rhiannon connection he sees too! I never knew you had posted about that JS but I see why you guys think that way. I, personally, don't think that is what the song is about but it could make sense.
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Old 05-28-2005, 06:08 AM
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Don's one isolated comment about what he thinks Sara is about really shouldn't ruin the song for anyone. (although I do see how it could) I really do not see how many of the lyrics could be about an aborted kid anyway. If anything, perhaps the song is about Stevie and what was going on in her life when this supposed abortion happened. I really do not think the song is "about" this one event.
When Stevie was asked on the Fix what songs were the most emotional to sing on the SYW tour, she replied "Beautiful Child, Say Goodbye and Goodbye Baby"...if Sara was all about her lost child, I would think it would be difficult to sing.


BTW...why oh why Jason would GB be so emotional for Stevie to sing if it was only part of the Rhiannon myth? There is much deeper meaning to the song than the myth, imho.
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:33 AM
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BTW...why oh why Jason would GB be so emotional for Stevie to sing if it was only part of the Rhiannon myth? There is much deeper meaning to the song than the myth, imho.

Well, who knows. But, I think she wrote it as part of that series of songs. She sort of sees herself as a Rhiannon esq figure - so maybe the answer is in that. I think a theme runs through all of these songs that are based on fiction. I think she reads the stories and they intrigue her into writing a song and then she sees herself, in her romantic way, as the protagonist. Also, she became emotional singing the SYW version, which is different than the demos we have. So, maybe the newer, changed meaning has a more significant effect on her
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