"Sara" lyrics - Page 2

GateandGarden · #16 05-26-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

No but if you play play Rhiannon backwards she says, "Mick is dead...miss him miss him miss him..." Oh wait. ....wrong band

Man - I REALLY need a nap

I love that.

Anyway, I never heard "dead" when I listened to it.

I've never really believed it was about an aborted baby, and, as Kelly said, Stevie has contradicted that, anyway.

Also, I would love to hear the 16 minute version, which I'm sure would be Josh's nightmare song. But, as Curtis said, she leaves out the best verses, and "Bombay Sapphires" is a great example of that. I prefer the demo to the album version very much.

I think that's all I wanted to say.

GateandGarden · #17 05-26-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

My theory is that Gate and Garden contains the missings Sara lyrics. For one, the beat and piano parts are very similar. Also, there is no demo in circulation for this song, one of the very very few that hasn't surfaced...because...it's a apart of the 16 minute Sara.

You might be on to something! Wow! This is the first I've heard of this! Why didn't you tell me sooner? Am I not one of your hags?

Two of my fave Stevie songs might really be the same song!

ontheEdgeof17 · #18 05-26-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

You might be on to something! Wow! This is the first I've heard of this! Why didn't you tell me sooner? Am I not one of your hags?

Two of my fave Stevie songs might really be the same song!

Well, I just unearthed a tape I made back in the day ('98 prolly) at my parent's house. I put Sara and Gate and Garden back-to-back. I was like "Wow...these songs are very similiar." Then the whole 16 minute discussion arose. I could be very off base, but it's just a thought I had.

GateandGarden · #19 05-26-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Well, I just unearthed a tape I made back in the day ('98 prolly) at my parent's house. I put Sara and Gate and Garden back-to-back. I was like "Wow...these songs are very similiar." Then the whole 16 minute discussion arose. I could be very off base, but it's just a thought I had.

It makes sense to me. I have to wonder why there has never been a "Gate and Garden" demo. That might explain it.

SapphireSister · #20 05-26-2005, 02:55 PM

Question - when did Stevie and Don first hook up and what year was it? After she and Mick broke it off right? I thought Sara was written before her and Don were together. I guess I'm wrong.

ontheEdgeof17 · #21 05-26-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

It makes sense to me. I have to wonder why there has never been a "Gate and Garden" demo. That might explain it.

The first few lines up until "And the guardian" were written for the song, but I think the rest was snatched from somewhere else...The key change at that point goes from new to Sara, IMO.

GateandGarden · #22 05-26-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

The first few lines up until "And the guardian" were written for the song, but I think the rest was snatched from somewhere else...The key change at that point goes from new to Sara, IMO.

How do you know which lines were written for that song and which ones were possibly "Sara"? But when I think about it, it does make total sense. I'm just asking because I'm wondering if you got info somewhere else.

catinthedark · #23 05-26-2005, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

No but if you play play Rhiannon backwards she says, "Mick is dead...miss him miss him miss him..." Oh wait. ....wrong band

Man - I REALLY need a nap

I really, REALLY need a smiley spittin' water all over the computer screen.

That? Was hilarious.

As Strand said:

"I think the undoing the laces, the singing, and the building of a house are all about Don. In fact, she mentioned that Don did build his house and she was standing right in the middle of it or something like that. But, I think the dark wing in the Storm is Mick -"

This is also what I think Sara is about.. Definitely I hear "Said Sara..." And I'm not at all convinced the Sara in this song is the so-called baby that Don says she named Sara. My friend (the lucky dog) got to interview FM when they stopped in Montreal on the TITN tour, and it was he who asked her "Who is Sara?" to which she answered the famous quote "My alter ego." I remember him talking about her answer - he was ticked that she gave such an "airy fairy" type answer.

Anyway, I think Sara in this song IS her alter ego. There may well have been a baby lost and named Sara, but I don't think it is she in this song. JMO.

Kelly · #24 05-26-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think the undoing the laces, the singing, and the building of a house are all about Don. In fact, she mentioned that Don did build his house and she was standing right in the middle of it or something like that. But, I think the dark wing in the Storm is Mick - I think she thought Mick would be some kind of solace after LB and Henley; she was wrong and that is what i think she is talking about - her running to Mick after all of that and the end of that to her despair. And the titular figure is the girl Mick married - right? So, Mick is in there somnewhere just as she said.

I agree, Mick is in there.

Kelly · #25 05-26-2005, 06:50 PM

Stevie's affair with Don was way earlier than anyone thinks before Mick. I think the WA tour..early 76. I think her and LB were back and forth after Don as he always says 77 for their breakup. Plus they said they were together up in Sausalito. She was with Mick on the Rumours tour, 77. Paul Fishkin was before Mick too.
I would loooveee to know more about what happened between her and Dylan in Australia. David?

krrrby · #26 05-26-2005, 07:17 PM

I'm not sure if I am correct on this one, but I thought I heard her say (or read) in some interview that if she ever wanted a child, she would have named it Sara. Or was it Rhiannon?

I just listened to the song, and I guess I could sort of see where that could be taken as "Dead" Sara - referring to the aborition...that would be way creepy if so, but if you listen in the tours and everything it's "Said" so I dont think she would have said that. To me that would make the song sound kind of dark in a way.

The theory someone mentioned about Sable and Blonde being a part of the 16-min song, that very well could be true...the only demo I've heard on it was just a rought outtake during the wild heart era

I say go with your instincts on this one...maybe in the "someday" book Stevie has been writing we might get to know the truth after all

Johnny Stew · #27 05-26-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelly

shhhhhhhhhh. We can't bring it up or we will hear about Rhiannon myths and babies in towers, etc.

I once suggested (though perhaps I wasn't the first one) that "Goodbye Baby" does sound like it could fit into the "Rhiannon" theme... taking her to the tower and taking away her child, as punishment for loving the mortal man, etc., etc.

Guess I shouldn't have ever brought it up, huh?

Even if the initial inspiration for "Goodbye Baby" was a work of fiction, though, I believe Stevie picks the stories she chooses, for a reason... 'Rappacinni's Daughter,' 'Beauty And The Beast,' etc.... because she sees parallels between her own life and those stories.

ontheEdgeof17 · #28 05-26-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

How do you know which lines were written for that song and which ones were possibly "Sara"? But when I think about it, it does make total sense. I'm just asking because I'm wondering if you got info somewhere else.

Just the change of the lyrics and the flow of the song. Just like the new verses for POTU that were added for TISL.....it fits the song well, but then again it doesn't. Ya know?

ka10 · #29 05-26-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Anyway, I never heard "dead" when I listened to it.

Hehehe, it could just be my ears hearing it wrong!

I'm also the same person that swears Lindsey (or someone else?) mutters the "F" word, then makes an aggravated-sounding exhale right before the opening beats of "The Chain"... of course, I only can "hear" that when I listen to it through my headphones, though.

~Kat

ontheEdgeof17 · #30 05-26-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ka10

I'm also the same person that swears Lindsey (or someone else?) mutters the "F" word, then makes an aggravated-sounding exhale right before the opening beats of "The Chain"... of course, I only can "hear" that when I listen to it through my headphones, though.

That one is true.