FM Done - Page 4

dudden22 · #46 05-24-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It was all over after the "Fake Mac" disaster.

What was the "Fake Mac" disaster??

LilyRose · #47 05-24-2005, 06:33 PM

I'm saying Stevie's saying "my cut". That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Susie

ReFleetwoodMac · #48 05-24-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I posted this last week over on the FM board, but it seems to me that people have been plotting the death of Fleetwood Mac pretty much since Peter Green quit.

It was all over after Green quit.
It was all over after Jeremy quit.
It was all over after they cancelled the "Bare Trees" tour.
It was all over after they cancelled the "Mystery To Me" tour.
It was all over after the "Fake Mac" disaster.
It was all over after Bob quit.
It was all over after Chris & John divorced and Stevie & Lindsey split.
It was all over after "Tusk" didn't do as well as hoped.
It was all over after they did solo albums.
It was all over after Lindsey quit.
It was all over after Christine & Stevie decided to no longer tour with FM.
It was all over after Stevie quit.
It was all over after Mick split up the "Time" band.
It was all over after Christine retired.

Fleetwood Mac: It's been all over since 1970!

Maybe Sheryl Crow will officially replace Stevie Nicks and in five or ten years, Lindsey will leave, and they'll find someone to replace him, and so on. Soon, we'll have a fresh, young, all-star lineup Fleetwood Mac that will eventually take over the world and become the "definitive lineup" that everyone associates with the name Fleetwood Mac. This new super Fleetwood Mac will make current Fleetwood Mac look like old Fleetwood Mac compared to current Fleetwood Mac in the eyes of current Fleetwood Mac fans, and current Fleetwood Mac fans will resent the new super Fleetwood Mac like fans of old Fleetwood Mac now resent current Fleetwood Mac.

SteveMacD · #49 05-24-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dudden22

What was the "Fake Mac" disaster??

Fleetwood Mac cancelled the "Mystery to Me" tour after Mick found out that Bob Weston had an affair with Jenny Fleetwood. This was the third tour in about three years that saw a Mac guitarist either quit or be fired mid-tour, and the second time they had to actually cancell the tour.

Their manager, Cliff Davis, snapped. So, he put together a band made up mostly of Danny Kirwan's backing band. He called the band Fleetwood Mac. Only, Mick, John, Christine, and Bob Welch weren't involved.

Anway, there was a huge legal battle, but Warner Bros. decided to error on the side of the real Fleetwood Mac, which is how "Heroes Are Hard To Find" came about, and which is why Mick was the manager of the band from 1974-1980.

SteveMacD · #50 05-24-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ReFleetwoodMac

Maybe Sheryl Crow will officially replace Stevie Nicks and in five or ten years, Lindsey will leave, and they'll find someone to replace him, and so on. Soon, we'll have a fresh, young, all-star lineup Fleetwood Mac that will eventually take over the world and become the "definitive lineup" that everyone associates with the name Fleetwood Mac. This new super Fleetwood Mac will make current Fleetwood Mac look like old Fleetwood Mac compared to current Fleetwood Mac in the eyes of current Fleetwood Mac fans, and current Fleetwood Mac fans will resent the new super Fleetwood Mac like fans of old Fleetwood Mac now resent current Fleetwood Mac.

I wouldn't go THAT far, but it seems to me people, including members of Fleetwood Mac, have said that it's "all over" only to be proven wrong. Lindsey said that he couldn't see himself ever working with Fleetwood Mac again in 1987. Stevie said in 1989 that she would never, ever work with Lindsey ever again. Stevie and Christine said they would never tour again with Fleetwood Mac in 1990. Stevie said she would never work with Mick Fleetwood ever again in 1991. Mick said that Fleetwood Mac was all but over in 1992, and that it WAS over in 1996. And yet they keep coming back! I'm sorry, but in 18 years of fandom, I've heard the Mac was done one too many times. Save for one comment by Don Henley and a comment supposedly made by Chris Nicks, I've not heard anything to indicate that the Mac is done.

gldstwmn · #51 05-24-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

They will tour the next time John and/or Mick needs money.

John was pretty conservative with his money by all accounts. I doubt he needs it.

Rickypt · #52 05-24-2005, 07:05 PM

SteveMacD, you are right of course, but now that we're done arguing over the Vegas setlist and there's still a couple of weeks until we can argue over the Philly setlist, there's really not much else to talk about.

lagringader&r · #53 05-24-2005, 07:49 PM

I don't know what to think about them being done or not being done. So far, Henley and Chris Nicks have said it. I think they may not ever record another cd, but maybe they could tour again, like the Eagles are (speaking of the devil

) They don't have to have anything to promote to tour as an "oldies band". County fairs?

Please Gawd no! Either that or they had a falling out and are done for good? This is not making me happy!

Btw, I also heard Monica and thought she was referring to EFO too. Maybe it was their pet name for EFO. The Monica/Clinton thing was funny to talk about back then and even though I don't think EFO is really about Clinton and Monica (but who knows!), the lyrics really do fit.

ShangriLaTroubl · #54 05-24-2005, 08:36 PM

Ok I have always thought MONICA was one of Stevie's attorney's...since they were talking about a deal memo that had to be worked out with the attorney's over Chris Lord Alge mixing it...

"I lost tomorrow to Monica" -- I have always assumed was an attorney

Chris

all the same · #55 05-24-2005, 08:47 PM

The thing I love about Fleetwood Mac is how dramatic they all are! Mick and John basically have to give Stevie and Lindsey hand jobs to come back! But eventually they come back! So, I really don't think Fleetwood Mac is done. I think if Mick said "Stevie, c'mon! Steeeeviiiieeee! C'MON!!!" she would go back. She'd be all like "Weeeeeeeeeelllllll... okay!"

Regina · #56 05-24-2005, 09:09 PM

I do not picture even Stevie romanticizing Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton's relationship to that extent. If it is about them--I don't wanna know! Eee--yuck.

The FM thing? Still don't believe it. I absolutely believe Mick and Lindsey were there in Vegas supporting her--so, who is she mad at? John??? Impossible.

And if it's a just business thing--they'll get over it. They've gotten over much, much worse. (But I still don't believe it anyway. Again, I'm in the planning stages of how many shows I can do for FM2006. But, I'd settle for BuckinghamNicks 2006:-)

LiquidBlue5000 · #57 05-24-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by all the same

The thing I love about Fleetwood Mac is how dramatic they all are! Mick and John basically have to give Stevie and Lindsey hand jobs to come back! But eventually they come back! So, I really don't think Fleetwood Mac is done. I think if Mick said "Stevie, c'mon! Steeeeviiiieeee! C'MON!!!" she would go back. She'd be all like "Weeeeeeeeeelllllll... okay!"

but she'd scream it like this: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLL!!!!!!

Johnny Stew · #58 05-24-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ReFleetwoodMac

This new super Fleetwood Mac will make current Fleetwood Mac look like old Fleetwood Mac compared to current Fleetwood Mac in the eyes of current Fleetwood Mac fans....

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

seeker007nmss · #59 05-24-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn

John was pretty conservative with his money by all accounts. I doubt he needs it.

Maybe I should clarify: Mick needs the money - John needs a bigger boat!

Johnny Stew · #60 05-24-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

No, it was Stevie's words not mine. I mean I did not just up and say one day "Hey - this song was called Monica" now did I.

I'm going to try to come to Jason's aid here.

I had an advanced copy of 'Destiny Rules,' thanks to a good friend, but I wasn't able to talk about it, so I kept my mouth shut.
Watched it several times when I got it, of course, but could never figure out exactly what Stevie was saying during the fight about mixing her song.

Then Jason tells me in a PM one night, "you know, I talked to Chris Nicks and he told me 'Everybody Finds Out' was written about Monica Lewinsky and her affair with Bill Clinton.'"

A little lightbulb went off in my head, but, again, I couldn't say anything about the advanced copy... so I didn't tell Jason.
The next day, I popped the tape in, and, sure enough, Stevie's saying, "I lost a day to mix 'Monica'" -- and in the doc it certainly looks like she was referring to the song that we know as "Everybody Finds Out."

I know all about the alternate title, etc., etc., but Jason certainly didn't fabricate the story, as he told me about his exchange with Chris Nicks before the doc aired, and before he knew that I had seen it.