Why, Oh Why did Stevie turn down "These Dreams"? - Page 19

dissention · #**271** 05-23-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

And I really don't give a crap if people make fun of celebrities, or whoever, my point was that if Diss is going to be up in arms about talking about CHris in case Jessica reads it, then the same respect should be afforded Stevie, because Jessica may also read the stuff about HER!.

I never said that and I'm never up in arms when people say things about Chris Nicks because I don't like him.

GypsySorcerer · #**272** 05-23-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I think Amber's just trying to say that if you're going to get your feathers ruffled by unkind comments about Kristen Buckingham, then you should be just as disgusted by equally unkind comments about Christopher Nicks.

Neither is a celebrity... only the relatives of celebrities. So one can argue all day and night that a celebrity is fair game, but shouldn't condemn the verbal abuse hurled towards Lindsey's wife, while condoning the same behaviour in regards to Stevie's brother.

I've never made any comments about Chris Nicks. I haven't even criticized his handling of Stevie's merchandising, etc. I don't think attacks on him personally are right, but I don't see a problem with calling him out on how he handles some of Stevie's marketing.

strandinthewind · #**273** 05-23-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I never said that and I'm never up in arms when people say things about Chris Nicks because I don't like him.

No, but you said it about K - and that, I think, makes you a tiny bit hypocritical. Again, if someone says "I saw K at a concert and she was being a &*&^^&&^^^$$%*" - is that fair game?

amber · #**274** 05-23-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

I never said that and I'm never up in arms when people say things about Chris Nicks because I don't like him.

I thought you said it was not appropriate to Diss him, because Jessica might read those things about her father. Then i was saying, well, by extension it shouldn't be okay to Diss Stevie, either. Okay. I think it's all cleared up now.

strandinthewind · #**275** 05-23-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

. . . but I don't see a problem with calling him out on how he handles some of Stevie's marketing.

Me either. I mean that is a public product. Sadly, the conversation about him never sticks just to that; it usually turns personal.

dissention · #**276** 05-23-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

But does the need to point any observation you have seen Chris Nicks do outweigh the possible pain it may cause his daughter to read it? If so, then all of the eyewitness sightings of K in a not so flattering situation or whatever are also fair game

Of course they're fair game. The only stuff I take offense to when it comes to Kristen is when people say that she got pregnant to get Lindsey to marry her and crap like that as if it were fact. Or that loony tune who once said that Kristen was a surrogate for Lindsey and Stevie.

strandinthewind · #**277** 05-23-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

I thought you said it was not appropriate to Diss him, because Jessica might read those things about her father . . . .

I think I said that

GypsySorcerer · #**278** 05-23-2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Me either. I mean that is a public product. Sadly, the conversation about him never sticks just to that; it usually turns personal.

But doesn't he seek the spotlight somewhat? That was just my impression.

gldstwmn · #**279** 05-23-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

To Dissention's credit and to be fair - we all make little jabs in jest. Dissention just seemingly loves to make them about La Nicks and no one else in FM

Maybe it is because she is the star

Ha ha.

GypsySorcerer · #**280** 05-23-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Of course they're fair game. The only stuff I take offense to when it comes to Kristen is when people say that she got pregnant to get Lindsey to marry her and crap like that as if it were fact. Or that loony tune who once said that Kristen was a surrogate for Lindsey and Stevie.

Must have missed that last gem.

Johnny Stew · #**281** 05-23-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

I've never made any comments about Chris Nicks. I haven't even criticized his handling of Stevie's merchandising, etc. I don't think attacks on him personally are right, but I don't see a problem with calling him out on how he handles some of Stevie's marketing.

I wasn't referring to comments made about Chris in relation to his job of marketing Stevie-related merchandise. I was talking about comments regarding his alleged womanizing, adulterous acts, drunken behaviour, etc.

It's as much hearsay as the comments about Kristen being a snobbish gold-digger, and equally offensive, IMO.