Stevie said "Mick" right nbefore Beauty and the Beast on Saturday

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

In that Vice article though, Stevie said:Perhaps she decided to finally focus on that project... which she's often spoke of doing over the years... instead of a more traditional album.

The record company still insists that they have no such project in the works for Stevie. So go figure.

So she very recently said that she would be doing a "Rhiannon" album of sorts? I think if her first single was a remake of the original Rhiannon then this album could sell very well. Everyone loves that song so it could be as popular as the dance if she redid the original song and named the album simply, "Rhiannon".

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Ah, I know all about wild-hearted boys.

"We come from different worlds, but we are the same...."

"Whatsamattababeh?"

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Did we ever establish the authenticity of that Vice article?

Please let us not ever again debate the veracity of an article printed by a magazine with a "V" name.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

"Whatsamattababeh?"

Thankfully, nothing any more!

At least not in the romance department.

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

The trick is to not look at it as "the end of her career," Christopher.

Retiring from the road doesn't have to spell the end of someone's career, unless they want it to.
I personally think Stevie will continue to record. With what frequency, I have no idea, but I do think she will.

I also think she'll continue to perform, but she'll either do so in one location (Ceasar's, for example) or in limited engagements someplace like the Hard Rock Cafe.

That's a very valid theory, too, actually.
It's no secret that she was going through a tough time physically during the 'Say You Will' tour, with her hip problems and struggling with menopause. The 'TISL' tour was also plagued with health problems.
If she is feeling better now... and she certainly seems to be... perhaps she wants to demonstrate that she hasn't "lost it."

Either way, she is rapidly approaching 60, and she's going to want to slow down, I'm sure.
But that's nothing for you to be devastated about. I feel confident we'll still get new music from her in the future.

The whole theory of her leaving the music business doesn't hold water. Look at it like this, if age wasn't an issue, would anyone think this was the end? Let's say she was 40 right now. You'd never think this was the end because in the last few years she has been touring more then ever and in the last five years came out with two successful albums (one with her band, one without). So, it doesn't make sense that because someone has been touring and performing more often then ever, it implies that this is the end. SYW was the largest tour in FM history, right? I don't expect them to ever tour like that again! But I do anticipate more albums, each one followed by a couple months of touring. Obviously, Stevie will do what she wants. I am just saying that age is just a number.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Thankfully, nothing any more!

At least not in the romance department.

"Venus doesn't glitter when she stands next to ME!"

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

"Don't blame it on my soul........Blame it on my Wild Heart."

I'm wearing my Wild Heart tour t-shirt today It's maroon and says "Don't blame it on me" on the front and "Blame it on my wild heart" on the back.

[SapphireSister]

I want to say something here...with all this speculation about this being the end of her career the most important thing to me is that Stevie find happiness/peace/serenity in her life. Whatever that means to HER is what I want. Of course I want her to tour and make music forever but I would also love for her to find someone to spend her older years with IF that is what makes her happy. But then again who is to say that she needs another person to fulfill her? I want her to have whatever it is to that completely fills that Wild Heart of hers and I mean that in the most selfless way...I hope that when she looks back on her life she says "I have truly accompished everything I wanted to in this lifetime and would not have had things be any different". That is what I want for our Stevie.

[Serrart]

If that were no longer true could fans deal with it? I wonder if the die-hard fans who often sit at her feet during Edge can be happy to let her go if she someday feels she's given enough to her career. No offense to anyone. Just curious how die-hard fans would react if she wanted to stop touring or investing in her solo career as a full-time job.

Whatever she wants. Not because I consider her a goddess, I would really be a strange kind of agnostic in that case, but because my admiration can't be linked to her doing what I want. Obviously as all the fans I also have expectations but at the end, she doesn't owe me anything. I buy her records, etc and get back incredibly deep emotions. I can follow her or not on the path she takes, but If one day I felt betrayed because she didn't act as I wanted it would be the sign I'd need to rediscover what is real and what is not. JMO

Romy

[lagringader&r]

Originally Posted by Kelly

I completely agree with Stevie "saying goodbye". Vegas was just one of the reasons I feel this way....Alot of things point in this direction...but I cannot bring it up here or I will be flamed! It is difficult to admit or accept that at some point Stevie may want to move on with her life and do different things. There will be replies along the lines of "this is what she loves to do" and "she needs the music, yada yada". "She said she was doing another album"....etc etc. Things change in peoples lives. Priorities change. Things that used to be important suddenly look less and less significant. Stevie has acknowledged having a difficult time with 9/11...perhaps she looked at her life and realized she had lots of people around her but felt lonely? Sometimes things need to be sacrificed to make things work. No one wants to admit or accept things about this solo tour that are so glaringly obvious. People still believe and will continue to believe that she is touring this summer because she wants to perform for her fans! I know she enjoys performing but she hates travelling and this tour is not about performing. Period.
For me, so much is about reading between the lines with Stevie.
She made alot of "statements" in Vegas for those who cared enough to listen. Instead, some focused on the inconsequential like the video screens or her Reeblecks or the Jim Ladd comments.

I agree and have heard about Stevie's financial issues in the 90's. Some won't accept it, no matter how true it may be. I mean she got royalty checks..that should take care of things..right? She signed a contract to do eight, I think eight, solo albums...so financially successful or whether she wanted to or not, she was obligated to. She did apparently "want" to do TISL but now? Look at Lori's most recent comments..look at the Greatest Hits debaucle for that answer.

I do not think BaTB is about Mick. It is about Stevie. Stevie was/is admitting to someone that perhaps she needs to change. The movie touched a nerve with Stevie because she saw parallels to what she was going through in her own life at that time. Was Mick the man who wanted her to change? Did Mick nearly die from grieving when SHE left HIM? (slightly dramatic Steves..but you get my point?) Mick was a convenient after thought. That Vegas performance was not for or about Mick..she was not "speaking" to Mick...... Throwing Mick into the mix years ago made it easier..nothing to explain, no awkward questions about why in 79/80/81 she was having these feelings. Apparently it worked as many of you still think that song was written about her feelings for Mick. That is cool as I think Stevie was aiming for a certain portion of her fans in Vegas anyway.

As difficult as it will be to say goodbye to Stevie someday, I want her to find peace and happiness, something she really never has. I want her to have someone who loves her to grow old with. Her entourage, Karen, Cory, Sheryl, Chris, Lori, etc...will not fulfill her as she lives out her life. Those people earn a living through Stevie..she is an entity to some of them. I know what I have heard and I know what I feel in my heart and soul and something is different with Stevie. She was one sexy, hot Mama on Wednesday night and I saw true bliss in her eyes. It was not for the fans groveling at her feet.

I know a lot of people are agreeing with you and so I feel stupid because I don't know what you're saying. Stevie didn't tour for her fans? For money? Because she loves it? What is the reason she did Vegas then? I also disagree that this is the end of her writing new songs and possibly making another cd. Why do you think something like the Jim Ladd interview was inconsequential? How can we determine which interviews actually mean something and which are inconsequential?

I might be the only one but I'm going to say right now that I don't think there's some stange, lying conspiracy going on with Fleetwood Mac. If Cory told me and others that no one from the band were at the shows, I'm going to believe her. If Stevie says that BATB is about or for Mick just 2 months ago and backed it up years ago in liner notes, then I'm going to believe her. Plus, the lyrics so fit. I also think that if Mick and Stevie say there might be another Mac tour, even though Don Henley says they threw in the towel, I'm going to be more likely to believe them over him. Does anyone else lie in this group?

I was at Tuesday's show and saw Stevie sparkle and glow. She was brilliant, as usual. I took the time to pay attention and what I saw was a beautiful performer who seemed so happy to be playing to her fans and to have Lori there with her this time. I don't know what you were priviledged to see that the rest of us didn't. Are we the stupid fans because we don't think Fleetwood Mac members are a bunch of deceptive, lying idiots? Personally, BATB could be about her dogs and I'd still love it. I don't care who the song is for, but I refuse to call her a liar for whatever reason some people are. I also refuse to call Cory a liar because I talked to her a few times at the SYW shows I went to and she's really down to earth and very cool. Calling her or Stevie a liar is insulting.

Sorry, I don't understand what you posted.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

And I think you are swell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still have a pic of you and your daughter that I took with my phone at the Four Seasons somewhere!!!!!!!!!!

So, stick around!!!!

Oh, it's that Suzanne! Hello Suzanne.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

The whole theory of her leaving the music business doesn't hold water. Look at it like this, if age wasn't an issue, would anyone think this was the end? Let's say she was 40 right now. You'd never think this was the end because in the last few years she has been touring more then ever and in the last five years came out with two successful albums (one with her band, one without). So, it doesn't make sense that because someone has been touring and performing more often then ever, it implies that this is the end. SYW was the largest tour in FM history, right? I don't expect them to ever tour like that again! But I do anticipate more albums, each one followed by a couple months of touring. Obviously, Stevie will do what she wants. I am just saying that age is just a number.

Of course it makes sense! If you're about to retire, you're going to want to milk the cow tits for everything they've got before doing so.

I think Stevie has a bit more touring in her, but that's about it. Probably an annual Vegas gig, though, too. I don't foresee a new album at all, nor do I foresee a new Fleetwood Mac album. Lori has said that a new album is not on the agenda, so how is Stevie going to keep going on the road? She's oversaturated the market so badly in the last few years and this new "Gold Dust Tour" is going to make the oversaturation even worse. So, let's say she tours throughout the rest of the year and then decides to record a new album. That'll take three years at least and she'll be 60 by the time it comes out. With her health problems and the way she's been getting sick so badly for the past few years, I doubt she's going to want to go touring the sheds to support an album when she's in her sixties. We can say age is nothing but a number, but that's simply not true in her case. She's not Tina Turner and she's not Mick Jagger.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

Of course it makes sense! If you're about to retire, you're going to want to milk the cow tits for everything they've got before doing so.

I think Stevie has a bit more touring in her, but that's about it. Probably an annual Vegas gig, though, too. I don't foresee a new album at all, nor do I foresee a new Fleetwood Mac album. Lori has said that a new album is not on the agenda, so how is Stevie going to keep going on the road? She's oversaturated the market so badly in the last few years and this new "Gold Dust Tour" is going to make the oversaturation even worse. So, let's say she tours throughout the rest of the year and then decides to record a new album. That'll take three years at least and she'll be 60 by the time it comes out. With her health problems and the way she's been getting sick so badly for the past few years, I doubt she's going to want to go touring the sheds to support an album when she's in her sixties. We can say age is nothing but a number, but that's simply not true in her case. She's not Tina Turner and she's not Mick Jagger.

There better be one more goddamn album from her/them. I want to hear veiled musical accounts of the saga that was the SYW tour!

[glitter_fades]

Originally Posted by amber

There better be one more goddamn album from her/them. I want to hear veiled musical accounts of the saga that was the SYW tour!

Bring it on!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I know there's not a lot of respect for Celine Dion out there, but I think what she and Elton are doing in Vegas is more than just a seedy little lounge act.

They're putting on exciting, over-the-top extravaganzas. Actually, Elton's been doing that for years... now he's just doing it in one location.

I don't think a residency in Vegas, filling in for Celine and Elton, would be a sad or embarassing thing for Stevie. I think it would be a cool way for her to continue performing, but with far less stress and travel.

I also think that, if Stevie gets the opportunity to do more than just four gigs there, that her show will become something bigger and perhaps a little more along the lines of the ideas she spit-balled during the Jim Ladd interview. I can't help but think many of those things just wouldn't have made financial sense for a measly four shows... but on a continuing and recurring basis, she could do them.

Maybe they (Stevie and her people, and the Caesar's people) were testing the waters to see what kind of interest there would be for her playing Vegas, and then they'll go from there.

To me, Vegas is simply not the place for Stevie; it's not a good fit. Stevie isn't capable of putting on over-the-top extravaganzas of music and entertainment, Celine and Elton are. Vegas is a good fit for Celine and Elton, and other performers like Cher and Bette. They all have the energy to do balls-to-the-wall performances night after night and have incredible stamina; they can shake and shimmy and tramp about the stage or pound on the piano like a madman and howl with the best of them. Stevie, in my opinion, is too understated for Vegas.