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Old 05-17-2005, 03:33 PM
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Well I had to remove the video from my site today, since I have seriously exceeded my bandwidth for the month....You can still download it at www.bellaillume.com

The video has gotten nearly 7000 hits from my site alone, so I think most have probably gotten a chance to download it by now (plus it looks like many were streaming it, instead of downloading!) But regardless...it is still available at www.bellaillume.com

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Thanks Chris, sorry about your bandwidth. I hope it won't cost you too much.

I found out from Mick's board that it's up at

www.stevie-nicks.info too. Don't know how that happened, but I'm credited, so it's OK.
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Old 05-17-2005, 03:37 PM
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Does this only play with Real Player? I have Windows Media Player and it didn't recognize the file type I wish someone could convert it. Do any of the places where it's posted have it in another file type perhaps? I don't have a Real Player.
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Old 05-17-2005, 04:06 PM
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Thanks Chris, sorry about your bandwidth. I hope it won't cost you too much.

I found out from Mick's board that it's up at

www.stevie-nicks.info too. Don't know how that happened, but I'm credited, so it's OK.
It's ok...it's well worth everyone getting to see the great video...

From what I get from going to www.stevie-nicks.info is just links to mine and Paula's sites...as well as a direct link to the file on my page

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Old 05-17-2005, 04:07 PM
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I was at Tuesday's show and this was seriously the most moving performance of Stevie's in years! Thanks for posting the video so we can relive the memories for years to come! I love when she emoted with her hand on her face. I thought she was going to cry! I think Mick must have broken her heart pretty badly. Stevie's no actress and her emotion during this song convinced me of that. The video captures one of the greatest love song moments of all time in my opinion. Thanks!
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Old 05-17-2005, 07:11 PM
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Can we all say that without a doubt these Beauty and The Beast Vegas performances are the best in recorded history since At Last in 2000 or maybe Silver Springs in 1997? I feel so blessed to have seen her do this song in Vegas. I litterally almost fainted (doesn't that sound manly???... but I couldn't help it, I was weak in the knees!) I couldn't even clap or scream when the song was over because I was in shock!
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Old 05-17-2005, 08:25 PM
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I so agree. I had goosebumps, then I started to cry and then my heart felt like I had just broken up with the love of my life. That's how much Stevie moves me! I'm not a man but when it comes to her, manly shmanly.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:15 PM
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I was at Tuesday's show and this was seriously the most moving performance of Stevie's in years! Thanks for posting the video so we can relive the memories for years to come! I love when she emoted with her hand on her face. I thought she was going to cry! I think Mick must have broken her heart pretty badly. Stevie's no actress and her emotion during this song convinced me of that. The video captures one of the greatest love song moments of all time in my opinion. Thanks!
As far as love songs go, I think BATB is mostly about the movie. Any personal connection for Stevie is likely unrelated to Mick, imo, regardless of how often she points us in that direction. They lyrics don't work that way if you really listen and think about what she's saying. I always viewed Stevie as a bit conceited and full of herself when she was younger, but even she's not conceited enough to mean some of those lyrics literally. None of the lyrics apply to anything she's said about her relationship with Mick or anything he's said about it either. It never seemed devastating to either one when they stopped seeing each other. They always maintained a good friendship even though Mick dumped Stevie for her friend who he later married. Stevie seemed ok with it, like she seems to be with Mick's current wife and family. I also don't think either of them felt they were incompatible or from different worlds. They shared a close friendship and similar lifestyle when they were an item and also after they stopped seeing each other. They maintained a friendship based on their similar lifestyles. I don't think Mick ever wanted or expected Stevie to change. Even at the time the RR video of BATB was made, Mick and Stevie enjoyed a lot of partying and high times. I don't see the connection to a great loss or the unresolved guilt I feel strongly in this song. Stevie's personal deamons are making their way out during her performances and people are probably feeling some of that. Of course, when she asks the question who is the beauty and who is the beast, everyone knows the beast is Stevie, right? The answer to the other question is anyone's guess, but Mick isn't on my list of suspects. None of the lyrics fit him except people think Stevie is so rude she'd imply Mick is a beast because some people think he's not good looking. She isn't talking about anyone's looks. Stevie is not that shallow.
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None of the lyrics fit him except people think Stevie is so rude she'd imply Mick is a beast because some people think he's not good looking. She isn't talking about anyone's looks. Stevie is not that shallow.
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Where? I didn't see your post. I just popped in here at the end. Did you diss my man Mick in this thread?
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:25 PM
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Where? I didn't see your post. I just popped in here at the end. Did you diss my man Mick in this thread?
Nah, I think I did it another thread where I said that I didn't think it was about Mick but that if it was, she sure got the Beast part right because he was whoreanus to look at in those days.
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As far as love songs go, I think BATB is mostly about the movie. Any personal connection for Stevie is likely unrelated to Mick, imo, regardless of how often she points us in that direction. They lyrics don't work that way if you really listen and think about what she's saying. I always viewed Stevie as a bit conceited and full of herself when she was younger, but even she's not conceited enough to mean some of those lyrics literally. None of the lyrics apply to anything she's said about her relationship with Mick or anything he's said about it either. It never seemed devastating to either one when they stopped seeing each other. They always maintained a good friendship even though Mick dumped Stevie for her friend who he later married. Stevie seemed ok with it, like she seems to be with Mick's current wife and family. I also don't think either of them felt they were incompatible or from different worlds. They shared a close friendship and similar lifestyle when they were an item and also after they stopped seeing each other. They maintained a friendship based on their similar lifestyles. I don't think Mick ever wanted or expected Stevie to change. Even at the time the RR video of BATB was made, Mick and Stevie enjoyed a lot of partying and high times. I don't see the connection to a great loss or the unresolved guilt I feel strongly in this song. Stevie's personal deamons are making their way out during her performances and people are probably feeling some of that. Of course, when she asks the question who is the beauty and who is the beast, everyone knows the beast is Stevie, right? The answer to the other question is anyone's guess, but Mick isn't on my list of suspects. None of the lyrics fit him except people think Stevie is so rude she'd imply Mick is a beast because some people think he's not good looking. She isn't talking about anyone's looks. Stevie is not that shallow.
Excellent post and great points. I think that initially, she wrote the song to reflect the movie because of the romanticism that seems to be the underlying theme (and you know she loooves to get caught up in that and let herself go). I recall an interview (actually, it might have been one of the demos of B&TB) where she discusses at great length how she felt after seeing the film for the first time. However, I think now she's able to apply certain metaphors in the song to mirror her own life (as you said, Stevie is the beast and no, not in literal terms). Reflecting on Stevie's past relationships, there were several people she went out with that weren't great lookers but had good personalities so I agree, the beast wouldn't be Mick.
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:30 PM
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Nah, I think I did it another thread where I said that I didn't think it was about Mick but that if it was, she sure got the Beast part right because he was whoreanus to look at in those days.
Oh, yeah, I did read that and laughed my ass off. I also think Mick is whoreanus, but I think Stevie thinks Mick is quite a dandy. I don't think she's dying of unrequited love for him but she isn't always attracted to the best looking guys. She thinks she's in love with everyone and everyone looks good to her at one point or another.
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As far as love songs go, I think BATB is mostly about the movie. Any personal connection for Stevie is likely unrelated to Mick, imo, regardless of how often she points us in that direction. They lyrics don't work that way if you really listen and think about what she's saying. I always viewed Stevie as a bit conceited and full of herself when she was younger, but even she's not conceited enough to mean some of those lyrics literally. None of the lyrics apply to anything she's said about her relationship with Mick or anything he's said about it either. It never seemed devastating to either one when they stopped seeing each other. They always maintained a good friendship even though Mick dumped Stevie for her friend who he later married. Stevie seemed ok with it, like she seems to be with Mick's current wife and family. I also don't think either of them felt they were incompatible or from different worlds. They shared a close friendship and similar lifestyle when they were an item and also after they stopped seeing each other. They maintained a friendship based on their similar lifestyles. I don't think Mick ever wanted or expected Stevie to change. Even at the time the RR video of BATB was made, Mick and Stevie enjoyed a lot of partying and high times. I don't see the connection to a great loss or the unresolved guilt I feel strongly in this song. Stevie's personal deamons are making their way out during her performances and people are probably feeling some of that. Of course, when she asks the question who is the beauty and who is the beast, everyone knows the beast is Stevie, right? The answer to the other question is anyone's guess, but Mick isn't on my list of suspects. None of the lyrics fit him except people think Stevie is so rude she'd imply Mick is a beast because some people think he's not good looking. She isn't talking about anyone's looks. Stevie is not that shallow.
BATB is absolutely about Mick. Check out the Timespace liner notes...
I quote "WRITTEN FOR MICK FLEETOWOOD...This was inspired by the Jean Cocteau movie from the '30s. When I first saw it, the story itself was happening in my life-- my beast was slipping away from me... my heart was breaking, but I learned something that became a difficult lesson-- you are not always the beast, and many times you are not the beauty... remember this." Could she be any more clear?

Side note - if anyone happened to have heard the KLOS Jim Ladd interview last month Stevie goes into detail how about incredibly painful her breakup with Mick was and states it was one of the most difficult times of her entire life. This is when she wrote Storms (which she adorably refers to as "Always Been a Storm").

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BATB is absolutely about Mick. Check out the Timespace liner notes...
I quote "WRITTEN FOR MICK FLEETOWOOD...This was inspired by the Jean Cocteau movie from the '30s. When I first saw it, the story itself was happening in my life-- my beast was slipping away from me... my heart was breaking, but I learned something that became a difficult lesson-- you are not always the beast, and many times you are not the beauty... remember this." Could she be any more clear?

Side note - if anyone happened to have heard the KLOS Jim Ladd interview last month Stevie goes into detail how about incredibly painful her breakup with Mick was and states it was one of the most difficult times of her entire life. This is when she wrote Storms (which she adorably refers to as "Always Been a Storm").
If the recent Jim Ladd interview is the benchmark of truth you're referring to, you lost me on that one.

Have anything else? Stevie quotes or liner notes circa 1989-95 won't get me there either.
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BATB is absolutely about Mick. Check out the Timespace liner notes...
I quote "WRITTEN FOR MICK FLEETOWOOD...This was inspired by the Jean Cocteau movie from the '30s. When I first saw it, the story itself was happening in my life-- my beast was slipping away from me... my heart was breaking, but I learned something that became a difficult lesson-- you are not always the beast, and many times you are not the beauty... remember this." Could she be any more clear?

Side note - if anyone happened to have heard the KLOS Jim Ladd interview last month Stevie goes into detail how about incredibly painful her breakup with Mick was and states it was one of the most difficult times of her entire life. This is when she wrote Storms (which she adorably refers to as "Always Been a Storm").
You've both made some good points - it's all of the above, imo. It may be about Mick, to some degree, in that she wrote it right after THEY broke up. It may be about breakups in general, or impossible relationships - the star-crossed lover syndrome, but I think Stevie herself said it best in the liner notes. Also worth noting from those same liner notes, it's dedicated to Vincent and Catherine - the characters' names in the TV show, BATB...

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