Fla. agency gets teen's abortion blocked

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by tynan88

But I couldn't imagine a 13 year old having developed the right hips for birth yet would they?

I do not know. I do know that throughout history, girls got married at 15 or less. So, maybe so.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by tynan88

But I couldn't imagine a 13 year old having developed the right hips for birth yet would they?

In junior high, I went to school with some girls who had the bodies of a 20-year-old.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by xxxmx

from what i have seen, this is typical of floridian politics. this state is truly the drain of the nation. it's where all of the ****ty and hairball issues end up, in the drain. as mari said, they think it is so tragic that a 13YO has an abortion, but condemning that child to a life with that 13YO is clearly tragic as well.

And she's obviously a kid with no means of supporting herself or a kid - sounds like she's barely being supported herself by the system...

This story is disgusting...

Make her have the baby - I'll give you a million bucks if anyone then steps up to fully take care of that baby....

They fight so hard to save these unborn children but could give a **** about them once their actually born....

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

In junior high, I went to school with some girls who had the bodies of a 20-year-old.

I remember this one girl in 5th grade- everyone was in awe of her because she already had her period...and was therefore more developed than the rest of us fifth graders

I don't communicate at all with my ex-father's side of the family - but I recently heard that a 13 year old cousin on that side of the family had a baby...so sick...they're a total gangsta thug family...and this kid having a kid is just so sad

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

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They fight so hard to save these unborn children but could give a **** about them once their actually born....

and then treat the girl like she is a godless slut who should be shunned. I mean who wiped Christ's feet with her tears and what was her social status. yet, these buttheads are all "Christ"ians

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by Lux

Didn't it say she is living in a shelter? If that's the case and was for some time then we can assume she wasn't living under the care of nurturing guardians and whilst pregnancy isn't an automatic result of that, the correlation is there so it's hardly surprising. Then they want to deny her an abortion? Jesus Christ! They may aswell set aside a bed for the next one and prepare for its pregnancy in 12 or so years time.

I agree and think it's unfair to blame it on the media. I think one's primary providers can very well be to blame in many cases.

[tynan88]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I remember this one girl in 5th grade- everyone was in awe of her because she already had her period...and was therefore more developed than the rest of us fifth graders

I don't communicate at all with my ex-father's side of the family - but I recently heard that a 13 year old cousin on that side of the family had a baby...so sick...they're a total gangsta thug family...and this kid having a kid is just so sad

Geez that really shocks me, not so much it is happening so young but that it physically can, unfortunately the media isn't so much sexualising young girls, but making them mre mature and grown up which leads to sexualisation and that is wrong.

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by Lux

I was thinking the same thing. I didn't know it could occur that early. I mean, I suppose I've heard of girls that age getting pregnant but it always stuck out as odd to me, in terms of how that's physically possible.

Originally Posted by tynan88

But I couldn't imagine a 13 year old having developed the right hips for birth yet would they?

I'd say, all things considered, that I was physically capable of bearing children at 10.

[tynan88]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I'd say, all things considered, that I was physically capable of bearing children at 10.

Well you learn something new everyday

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I agree and think it's unfair to blame it on the media. I think one's primary providers can very well be to blame in many cases.

I think the parents are partly to blame, but I think the media yields far more influence than parents, adults, church, etc. Look what these kids see on MTV, magazine covers, etc everyday. Teenagers like Lindsey Lohan sporting fake boobs and no clothes. Britney and the rest of the bubble-gum pop gang were only teenagers when they achieved stardom. It's getting younger and younger. In the 1950s, your sex symbols were in their 20s and 30s. They weren't 18-year-olds.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

I think the parents are partly to blame, but I think the media yields far more influence than parents, adults, church, etc. Look what these kids see on MTV, magazine covers, etc everyday. Teenagers like Lindsey Lohan sporting fake boobs and no clothes. Britney and the rest of the bubble-gum pop gang were only teenagers when they achieved stardom. It's getting younger and younger. In the 1950s, your sex symbols were in their 20s and 30s. They weren't 18-year-olds.

and they did not pander directly to the teen and younger market by dressing in high school uniforms a la Spears in the beginning

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

and they did not pander directly to the teen and younger market by dressing in high school uniforms a la Spears in the beginning

Right - and I was reading in a magazine at the gym this article about guys fantasies...

A bunch were like....(and these are guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s)"I'm up against a locker and there are three school girls in little uniforms doing all sorts of things to me...." yada yada yada...

I was really disturbed by this...why is the "school girl" thing appealing!?! It really makes me cringe....that this is what men are finding sexual kicks in...ugh!

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

and then treat the girl like she is a godless slut who should be shunned. I mean who wiped Christ's feet with her tears and what was her social status. yet, these buttheads are all "Christ"ians

Moby was on Talk of the Nation from NPR yesterday and I thought he was great...

Someone asked him what his thoughts on organized religion are...

He said something to the effect of...

I'm a sort of *he used some cool word I can't remember* Christian...

But then he went on to blast the "Christians" who are prevelant in today's world who are totally not Christian in their words, behaviours etc....he made some GREAT points and pretty much summed up the way I feel as well

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Right - and I was reading in a magazine at the gym this article about guys fantasies...

A bunch were like....(and these are guys in their 20s, 30s, 40s)"I'm up against a locker and there are three school girls in little uniforms doing all sorts of things to me...." yada yada yada...

I was really disturbed by this...why is the "school girl" thing appealing!?! It really makes me cringe....that this is what men are finding sexual kicks in...ugh!

I think it is because most guys never had sex in high school Plus, most guys (generalization I know) like young girls and this like is set into motion in their heads via the media, which is all about youth

Personally, I want Margaret Thatcher in riding toggs

Lord - I am in a mood today

[tynan88]

Personally, I want Margaret Thatcher in riding toggs

Dammit I nearly woke up the house with that one!

Seriously though I think guys like younger girls just because that is the way it has always been...that is nothing new and this is no new fascination...however it wasn't always sexual. It has always been common for a guy to marr someone much younger than him, that is ancient but now the focus is on a sexual side as opposed to marriage which for such a long time was the standard.