Best/worst career moves

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by amber

I was thinking that too, it doesn't seem so upturned now. It's not much different, though, if she did have something done.

Yup, it's very subtle. Not as upturned and a little slimmer.

Originally Posted by amber

I simply MUST have Stevie's plastic surgeon when the time comes! Which is in, like, 2 years?

I can't even list all the stuff I'd like to have done.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

What makes the difference when it comes to someone just looking a little younger and refreshed after having work done, and someone coming out looking like Farrah or Melanie or Loretta Switt do?
Is it really the difference between a good surgeon and a less competent one?

Many, many things. A lazy surgeon, too much plastic surgery, too much plastic surgery coupled with collagen and Botox, etc. Miss Fawcett has had an incredible number of operations done to her, so much so that I think she's actually suffering from it. Her nose is shriveling up and receding, the nostrils clearly show it. Loretta Switt, bless her heart, has had a million procedures AND has had her face pumped so full of toxins that Japan would refuse to take it all if was ever pumped out of her. It's all a matter of having it tastefully done, which Stevie has.

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm asking because it just amazes me sometimes that someone can apparently have plastic surgery and come out looking GORGEOUS and natural, while others come out looking so unnatural and unlike themselves.

Look at Melanie Griffith. She could have stopped traffic and then went hogwild with plastic surgery. But she didn't have just one thing done here and there. She had her first procedure, from what I can tell, in 1990 and then another around the time she made Milk Money. Then she just couldn't stop and she became SCARY.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

I was thinking that too, it doesn't seem so upturned now. It's not much different, though, if she did have something done. I simply MUST have Stevie's plastic surgeon when the time comes! Which is in, like, 2 years?

I've never paid much attention to her nose, but your nose does become smaller as you get older. I always found that fascinating.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by dissention

I've never paid much attention to her nose, but your nose does become smaller as you get older. I always found that fascinating.

I always thought one's nose never stopped growing.

[amber]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Yup, it's very subtle. Not as upturned and a little slimmer.






I can't even list all the stuff I'd like to have done.

Really? You're really pretty. oh, well. I'd love to have my cheek fat sucked. But that's just a vanity. The must haves will probably be a breast lift, and some botox or whatev in my forehead lines. I'm sure I'll think of more as time goes on. I don't want to have botox lips, but my lips are kind of thin - but still, that botox lip thing is just so obvious.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I've never paid much attention to her nose, but your nose does become smaller as you get older. I always found that fascinating.

No, it becomes bigger. The cartilege in your nose and ears never stops growing. This is a fact.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by amber

Really? You're really pretty. oh, well. I'd love to have my cheek fat sucked. But that's just a vanity. The must haves will probably be a breast lift, and some botox or whatev in my forehead lines. I'm sure I'll think of more as time goes on. I don't want to have botox lips, but my lips are kind of thin - but still, that botox lip thing is just so obvious.

Boob lift, ass lift, lipo, you name it, I want it. Actually, I'm pretty chicken about it. I don't know how I managed a tattoo.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

Many, many things. A lazy surgeon, too much plastic surgery, too much plastic surgery coupled with collagen and Botox, etc. Miss Fawcett has had an incredible number of operations done to her, so much so that I think she's actually suffering from it. Her nose is shriveling up and receding, the nostrils clearly show it. Loretta Switt, bless her heart, has had a million procedures AND has had her face pumped so full of toxins that Japan would refuse to take it all if was ever pumped out of her. It's all a matter of having it tastefully done, which Stevie has.

Look at Melanie Griffith. She could have stopped traffic and then went hogwild with plastic surgery. But she didn't have just one thing done here and there. She had her first procedure, from what I can tell, in 1990 and then another around the time she made Milk Money. Then she just couldn't stop and she became SCARY.

So it has a lot more to do with the AMOUNT of things you have done, as opposed to what you have done.

The way Farrah looks now is so sad. I remember about ten years ago (or maybe it's been more now), she discussed in an interview about how a plastic surgeon sitting next to her at a dinner party just boldly offered to do any work for her if she wanted it done -- telling her he could fix the way her nose hooked down, etc. At the time, she said that she liked her nose and the way her face looked -- that she felt it gave her character, and had no interest in changing her appearance.

I wonder why and when her opinion of herself changed.

Nicole Kidman had something done, too, in the last few years. There's just something completely off about her brow. Again, it doesn't look natural, and has changed her overall appearance completely.

Whatever else Stevie might have done in the future, I seriously hope she continues to look like Stevie, and not some waxed-over approximation of herself. I'd take an old and wrinkled looking Stevie over that any day.

[LiquidBlue5000]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

I have no problem with plastic surgery when it's tastefully done.

I've always thought Stevie had her nose done too, though no one seems to agree with me on that.

Yup.. after RAL she had her nose done...

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

Yup.. after RAL she had her nose done...

After Rock a Little? For sure?

I don't know if others agree but on this past tour, Stevies biggest problem area IMHO, was her jowels and neck. I do not think it looks like she has anything done on that area and it has gotten progressively worse since the Dance. When she started wearing the scarf, tied tightly around her neck, it just made it worse.
I have no problem with her getting surgery if thats what she wants. Back a few pages, I was talking about her coloring and over all level of energy etc..when I mentioned a drastic difference when she appeared for the Dance. I really do not want her to make any changes that will affect her eyes...they are her best feature for me and I would hate for them to suddenly look too tight, etc. More power to her for wanting to look good. She certainly wanted to look good during the Dance...loosing thirty pounds "for the tour". She looked fantastic and very attractive!

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by amber

No, it becomes bigger. The cartilege in your nose and ears never stops growing. This is a fact.

Yep, that's right. I've always thought Stevie had something done to her nose too, like GypsySorcerer said, it's just slimmer than it should be. Looks good though.

[LiquidBlue5000]

Originally Posted by Kelly

After Rock a Little? For sure?

I don't know if others agree but on this past tour, Stevies biggest problem area IMHO, was her jowels and neck. I do not think it looks like she has anything done on that area and it has gotten progressively worse since the Dance. When she started wearing the scarf, tied tightly around her neck, it just made it worse.
I have no problem with her getting surgery if thats what she wants. Back a few pages, I was talking about her coloring and over all level of energy etc..when I mentioned a drastic difference when she appeared for the Dance. I really do not want her to make any changes that will affect her eyes...they are her best feature for me and I would hate for them to suddenly look too tight, etc. More power to her for wanting to look good. She certainly wanted to look good during the Dance...loosing thirty pounds "for the tour". She looked fantastic and very attractive!

Yup, for sure! Look at pictures of her before and after and you will see.. It is also quite apparent on the Red Rocks video... on the closeups, she has a smaller nose.. on the shots taken further away (the real footage from that show), her nose is larger and different looking...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I don't agree with the "sister's had LOTS of work done" opinion, but I do think Stevie's had a "refresher" or two, like Chris (gldstwmn) has said.

By the way, I don't know what constitutes "plastic surgery" and what doesn't, but I've always assumed that kind of thing was more extensive and invasive than a chemical peel or Botox injection.
Or is "plastic surgery" just the cover-all word for having anything done?

Well, laser is considered surgery because they put you out with general anesthetic while they do it and you're in an operating room or outpatient surgery center.

[David]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Whatever else Stevie might have done in the future, I seriously hope she continues to look like Stevie, and not some waxed-over approximation of herself.

It might be kinda cool to see Stevie go all Joan Rivers!

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by dissention

Look at Melanie Griffith. She could have stopped traffic and then went hogwild with plastic surgery. But she didn't have just one thing done here and there. She had her first procedure, from what I can tell, in 1990 and then another around the time she made Milk Money. Then she just couldn't stop and she became SCARY.

chick's become addicted to plastic surgery. So have a lot of other people in Hollywood--Farrah's a good example. Yikes.